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Author Topic: [350 GH/s] "Eligius" (experimental) pool: almost feeless PPS, hoppers welcome  (Read 109894 times)
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May 30, 2011, 10:00:08 AM
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Luke - one issue: Due to an error in one script on my side I've accidently mined for about 8 hours with an empty username (http://:pw@us.mining.eligius.st/).
The login worked so I was not suspicious until I saw the the hashrate was equal to zero several hours later.

I know this is an error clearly on my side but would it be possible to throw an error when a login is attempted with empty username so that others do not get into the same situation?


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May 30, 2011, 11:06:22 AM
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Nevermind, just saw I was checking wrong URL.

So I mined 18 hours and checked for my balance in both places listed here:

Says "8xxxxxx" as value under http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/raw/eu/balances.json

Does that mean 0.08xx BTC?

That would be completely off.

http://eligius.st/~artefact2/eu/ reports

Unpaid reward : 129,365.08 μBTC (0.12936508 BTC)

That, too, would be tiny compared to what I should theoretically have mined that day(on slush it would be twice that for 18h runtime).

What went wrong where?

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May 30, 2011, 02:24:41 PM
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http://eligius.st/~artefact2/eu/ reports

Unpaid reward : 129,365.08 μBTC (0.12936508 BTC)

That, too, would be tiny compared to what I should theoretically have mined that day(on slush it would be twice that for 18h runtime).

What went wrong where?

Read the text below the numbers. Yes, it's not just for aesthetics !

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May 30, 2011, 02:41:58 PM
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I know this is an error clearly on my side but would it be possible to throw an error when a login is attempted with empty username so that others do not get into the same situation?
There are many possible errors. Yours is the first I've seen with a null username. Checking for errors adds overhead to every single getwork, and either changes the C code or requires a very carefully crafted MySQL query (which I am aiming to remove for efficiency anyway). I also have other things to work on before I declare Eligius to have formally left the "experimental" stage. So I have to say, if address checking for mining is to be implemented, it won't be very soon... sorry.

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May 30, 2011, 04:42:14 PM
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FYI, if you would like to take advantage of Eligius's lower transaction fees, you can clone/merge my eligius_sendfee branch:
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git clone -b eligius_sendfee git://gitorious.org/~Luke-Jr/bitcoin/luke-jr-bitcoin.git # If you don't have any code yet
git fetch git://gitorious.org/~Luke-Jr/bitcoin/luke-jr-bitcoin.git eligius_sendfee && git merge FETCH_HEAD # Inside an existing git repository
I was also asked to write a branch that sends transactions only accepted by Eligius. Replace "sendfee" with "sendonly" to get that. It works by paying fees directly to a "magic" Eligius address rather than normal fees, and making that output non-standard to discourage other miners from including it.

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May 30, 2011, 06:11:59 PM
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I've been using this pool for a while.  I use ufasoft on my i7-920 and poclbm with my GTS250.  I've noticed that my cpu mining gets invalid results once maybe 20.  My gpu gets invalids once or twice out of 10.  My gpu mines at 28m whereas my cpu mines at 6.  Why does my gpu get invalids so often?  Is it just because of the different miners?

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May 30, 2011, 06:34:48 PM
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I've been using this pool for a while.  I use ufasoft on my i7-920 and poclbm with my GTS250.  I've noticed that my cpu mining gets invalid results once maybe 20.  My gpu gets invalids once or twice out of 10.  My gpu mines at 28m whereas my cpu mines at 6.  Why does my gpu get invalids so often?  Is it just because of the different miners?
What address?

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May 31, 2011, 12:12:26 AM
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Read the text below the numbers. Yes, it's not just for aesthetics !
I did.

That's kind of my point.
If "This is the reward you earned by contributing to the previous blocks." then it's around 50% too small for the time spent mining compared to what I generate on slush in the same timeframe.

This is why I was asking about correctness, not for snideness.


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May 31, 2011, 02:47:45 AM
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Been mining here, at BTC Guild, and BTC Mine for the last 24 hours.


Here's my resource allocation to each pool:
BTC Guild: 350MH/s
BTC Mine: 350MH/s
Eligius: 70MH/s


After 24 hours, I have these rewards:
BTC Guild: 0.75  Smiley
BTC Mine: 0.67  Smiley
Eligius: 0.33   Grin

I'm quite surprised by how high Eligius' rewards are. I would expect that by sending 1/5 of the hashrate of the others, I would get 1/5 of the reward. But it doesn't seem to work like that. Hmm. Can anyone clarify? It's tempting to put more resources on Eligius and see what happens...

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May 31, 2011, 02:54:41 AM
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Eligius has been really lucky today (7 blocks in 24 hours -- average should be about 4).  A few days ago it was really unlucky (no blocks in 24+ hours).  That's how it goes with these moderate-sized pools.

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May 31, 2011, 03:04:06 AM
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Eligius has been really lucky today (7 blocks in 24 hours -- average should be about 4).  A few days ago it was really unlucky (no blocks in 24+ hours).  That's how it goes with these moderate-sized pools.



Oh that makes sense. Thanks!

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May 31, 2011, 03:23:18 AM
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I've been using this pool for a while.  I use ufasoft on my i7-920 and poclbm with my GTS250.  I've noticed that my cpu mining gets invalid results once maybe 20.  My gpu gets invalids once or twice out of 10.  My gpu mines at 28m whereas my cpu mines at 6.  Why does my gpu get invalids so often?  Is it just because of the different miners?
What address?

Both point to the us pool

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May 31, 2011, 06:43:45 AM
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guys can some1  explain me how exactly I can monitor my balance because http://eligius.st/~artefact2/eu/xxxx.htm is totally depressing. my speed is about 370 mhesh I mine more than 40 hours and my balance is only 0.89... yesterday I stopped mining maybe for a 1 hour and my balance dropped from 0.74 to 0.68 it tooks me more than 3 hours to hit 0.74 again. Now I stopped mining for a 5  minutes and my balance goes from 0.89 to 0.88 btc. And I checked my balance and it freezed at 0.89 for the last 4 hours.
http://eligius.st/~artefact2/eu/1Hfaub3v6t2FF6o3KUoeG7gVSR8ANE5HmF.htm

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I checked balances.json but I dont really sure whats this mean {"balance":88995447,"oldest":1306729455,"newest":1306821905.39}
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May 31, 2011, 07:24:33 AM
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The EU pool on Eligius has been having bad luck recently.  Only two blocks solved in the past week!  Average should be about 3-4.

It's a pretty small pool, so you are going to have runs of good or bad luck like this.  When the luck is better you will make a lot, when the luck is bad, not so much.

You could switch to a larger pool (even the US Eligius pool if you have good connectivity to US) or just wait it out.


 
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May 31, 2011, 10:45:40 AM
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yeah maybe theres some luck factor but not with the descreasing bitcoins balance... if i stopped mining i shouldnt lose my coins... looks like stats shows something but i think its not the BT balance.... but than how i can see how many coins i have now? or should I start mining and wait a week and hope that ill get something?
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May 31, 2011, 10:56:45 AM
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Green part = fixed (from previous blocks), red part = what you will earn additionally in this round.

If you stop mining and others still mine, your reative contribution goes down, and so does your reward for this round.

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May 31, 2011, 10:59:42 AM
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The US server seems to be down right now.

To all the people seeing coins go away that is your estimated balance. On the updated stats pages you will see a total BTC count in the page title. This includes your confirmed reward from previously found blocks (shown in green on the chart) and your estimated reward from the next block when it is found (shown in that pinkish-purple color). If you quit mining for a while your total work submitted towards the next block goes down in relation to the total work being submitted for it while you aren't mining. After you start mining for a while it will go back up as your shares submitted start getting closer to your estimated hashing power contributed to the pool.

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May 31, 2011, 11:32:06 AM
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The EU pool on Eligius has been having bad luck recently.  Only two blocks solved in the past week!  Average should be about 3-4.
It's a pretty small pool, so you are going to have runs of good or bad luck like this.  When the luck is better you will make a lot, when the luck is bad, not so much.
Luke: since Eligius is still a little pool, why not join the eu and us pools together to minimize the variance?

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May 31, 2011, 11:52:58 AM
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The EU pool on Eligius has been having bad luck recently.  Only two blocks solved in the past week!  Average should be about 3-4.
It's a pretty small pool, so you are going to have runs of good or bad luck like this.  When the luck is better you will make a lot, when the luck is bad, not so much.
Luke: since Eligius is still a little pool, why not join the eu and us pools together to minimize the variance?
I'm not sure why everyone assumes this is easy, or even possible... The main difficulty is finding a way to handle network issues when they can't talk.

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May 31, 2011, 11:57:47 AM
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bitclockers pool has 3 seperate servers, 2 in the US and 1 in the czech republic maybe have a word with them as its a great feature which makes it fully redundant too Smiley

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