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September 19, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
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Technically, I would agree that he's not contractually obligated to pay anyone back, because I'm certain no one actually signed any documents. ...

First sentence already shows a fundamental lack of understanding contract law, this is simply not true. Contracts can be of any form, and are there to be kept. Proving it to a judge is another matter, but not impossible.

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September 19, 2012, 06:43:22 PM
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I signed and agreed to the terms when I signed the bitcoin transaction to him with my private keys.

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September 19, 2012, 08:04:19 PM
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Technically, I would agree that he's not contractually obligated to pay anyone back, because I'm certain no one actually signed any documents. ...

First sentence already shows a fundamental lack of understanding contract law, this is simply not true. Contracts can be of any form, and are there to be kept. Proving it to a judge is another matter, but not impossible.



Actually I understand contract law pretty well which is why I doubt that any of hashking's 'contracts' are enforceable.  A couple of emails or forum posts back and forth are barely more credible than an unwitnessed oral contract.  Hashking also claims to be 15, which makes contracts nonbinding on his end, since under-18 year olds don't have agency in the eyes of most courts anyway.
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September 19, 2012, 08:15:10 PM
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Hashking said he is being the bigger man and paying back his virtual debts that he has no contractual obligation in paying

You mean, he has no prosecutable/enforceable obligations, so lenders can't do anything if he doesn't follow his contract and pay his real debt in a pseudonymous currency. I agree though, he will prove that he's a big man if he pays back, and his lies can be forgiven at that point.

Your perspective also seems to conflict with the ethic of reciprocity. I would like to live in a world where promises matter, and so do you.

In addition to that, if you don't have a contractual obligation to me when you publicly promise something, then when is there a contractual obligation ever in the Bitcoin world? The highest extent we "sign" documents is clicking a checkbox, and even that is rare.
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September 19, 2012, 08:32:22 PM
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It seems that people here like to keep beating a dead horse.  I keep hearing the same arguments over and over again.  I will continue to send payments out as bitcoins come into my wallet.  Not sure what people are trying to accomplish by continuing to call me a scammer.  I have already received the scammer tag and most people on this forum would have quit paying by now.  My intentions is try and return everyone's bitcoins as fast as I can. 
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September 19, 2012, 08:48:43 PM
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It seems that people here like to keep beating a dead horse.  I keep hearing the same arguments over and over again.  I will continue to send payments out as bitcoins come into my wallet.  Not sure what people are trying to accomplish by continuing to call me a scammer.  I have already received the scammer tag and most people on this forum would have quit paying by now.  My intentions is try and return everyone's bitcoins as fast as I can. 

+1, even if all these blowhards who think they own the forums say otherwise, you have my support hash.
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September 19, 2012, 09:05:58 PM
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It seems that people here like to keep beating a dead horse.  I keep hearing the same arguments over and over again.  I will continue to send payments out as bitcoins come into my wallet.  Not sure what people are trying to accomplish by continuing to call me a scammer.  I have already received the scammer tag and most people on this forum would have quit paying by now.  My intentions is try and return everyone's bitcoins as fast as I can.  

While I may disagree with:

1) What you did with the deposits
2) The method you use for paying back
3) Your refusal to communicate

I am happy you are going to at least pay me back Smiley

The scammer disucssion is total futile as I said before. Who cares whether he has a tag on an online forum? Just drop it (and especially non-account holders, please stop gloating and gtfo).
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September 19, 2012, 09:14:20 PM
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Hashking,

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September 19, 2012, 09:24:42 PM
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Hashking also claims to be 15, which makes contracts nonbinding on his end, since under-18 year olds don't have agency in the eyes of most courts anyway.

Hint: He was sarcasming all over your face.

Well that I did not know.  And it's not like 'teenage financial genius (who is probably running some kind of scam)' is a unique thing on these forums.
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September 19, 2012, 09:35:02 PM
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It would have been clear if you had read the few posts following the post.
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September 20, 2012, 01:31:04 AM
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Payments sent out. 
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September 20, 2012, 01:45:53 AM
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Technically, I would agree that he's not contractually obligated to pay anyone back, because I'm certain no one actually signed any documents. ...

First sentence already shows a fundamental lack of understanding contract law, this is simply not true. Contracts can be of any form, and are there to be kept. Proving it to a judge is another matter, but not impossible.



Actually I understand contract law pretty well which is why I doubt that any of hashking's 'contracts' are enforceable.  A couple of emails or forum posts back and forth are barely more credible than an unwitnessed oral contract.  Hashking also claims to be 15, which makes contracts nonbinding on his end, since under-18 year olds don't have agency in the eyes of most courts anyway.

A single email with a response is actually an enforceable contract.
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September 20, 2012, 02:29:19 AM
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It seems that people here like to keep beating a dead horse.  I keep hearing the same arguments over and over again.  I will continue to send payments out as bitcoins come into my wallet.  Not sure what people are trying to accomplish by continuing to call me a scammer.  I have already received the scammer tag and most people on this forum would have quit paying by now.  My intentions is try and return everyone's bitcoins as fast as I can. 

The problem is that you admittedly lied in the past about the nature of your operation and then provided ZERO information the the people who you defrauded about specifics of you payback plan. I see you are making daily payments to your creditors. This doesn't make you honorable; it makes you the least bad of the scammers. Congratulations. There are people like me, who had a significant amount of money in your "guaranteed insured" plan. When you openly defaulted I had to ask myself:

1) Will he attempt to pay me back (it appears that you are, so far)
2) WHEN will he pay me back
3) What percentage will be returned to me

I had to make a decision to either trust you (didn't work out so well the 1st time) or sell your debt for pennies on the dollar. Recall that Pirate's debt sold for 70% and dropped to under 20% within a week, so delaying a decision could be very costly.

So now you have all these people in limbo that you have stolen money from and you want to whine about them "beating a dead horse" and picking on you.

The fact is that you are a thief and your claims of "trying to do the right thing" ring hollow as long as you continue to ignore the needs of your creditors. They need information that you can easily provide to them for them to manage their assets. Instead, you give them the finger when they ask such presumptuous questions like "I know you are slowly paying back. When will you get to me?"

I also see a bunch of people that were lied to and stolen from, who now have to grovel and kiss the ass of the guy who ripped them off in the feeble hope that debasing themselves thusly will win them favorable treatment. It happened with Pirate, NCKrazze and now with you, and it's fucking pathetic and a sad spectacle to watch.
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September 23, 2012, 02:45:50 AM
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Don't see hashking posting here for 2 days. Anyone got any payments from him?

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September 23, 2012, 12:46:37 PM
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More payments sent out.
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September 23, 2012, 01:13:16 PM
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Still not my turn  Sad
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September 23, 2012, 01:14:25 PM
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Also got nothing Sad
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September 24, 2012, 02:43:08 PM
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For what it's worth, I haven't received my 10 BTC deposit made on July 20 back either.
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September 24, 2012, 05:21:11 PM
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Hashking paid my oldest deposit, still waiting on the one that is locked till tommorow.

 

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September 24, 2012, 05:22:52 PM
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Would you mind disclosing the size of your investment?
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