Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19

[wachtwoord]

The last that I heard from him was on the 5th Dec:
 
"... I'm currently waiting two weeks to gather everyone's offers.  After that I will give a timeline.  It shouldn't take too long."

So there should be an update soon as it's two weeks from then tomorrow, hopefully by the weekend at latest.

I received the same message December 3rd.

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[mining4fun11]

The last that I heard from him was on the 5th Dec:
 
"... I'm currently waiting two weeks to gather everyone's offers.  After that I will give a timeline.  It shouldn't take too long."

So there should be an update soon as it's two weeks from then tomorrow, hopefully by the weekend at latest.

I received the same message December 3rd.

LOL he probably pulled a runner knowing that he can't pay you or that there isnt really much you can do. 

[Gladamas]

I think it's time for legal action.

[mining4fun11]

I think it's time for legal action.

Do you mean the same legal action that was used to get Pirate.  You guys are funny.  It will be interesting to see if this goes anywhere. 

[alexmat]

I think it's time for legal action.

Filing a fraud claim with the Illinois Attorney General is a good place to start. It's free and doesn't limit you from further litigation. I recommend everyone affected take 5-10 minutes to print out the fraud complaint form and mail it in.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/index.html

Here is the info we have on him to help you fill out the form:

RESIDENCE:

SAM THEOFANOPOULOS
9344 W VALLEY FARM DR
FRANKFORT, IL 60423-6505

BUSINESS:

Real People Realty / South & West Suburbs (More)
Sam Theofanopoulos
7262 W Benton Dr
Frankfort, IL 60423

 815-469-7449
 708-822-4450 cell phone

[mining4fun11]

I think it's time for legal action.

Filing a fraud claim with the Illinois Attorney General is a good place to start. It's free and doesn't limit you from further litigation. I recommend everyone affected take 5-10 minutes to print out the fraud complaint form and mail it in.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/index.html

Here is the info we have on him to help you fill out the form:

RESIDENCE:

SAM THEOFANOPOULOS
9344 W VALLEY FARM DR
FRANKFORT, IL 60423-6505

BUSINESS:

Real People Realty / South & West Suburbs (More)
Sam Theofanopoulos
7262 W Benton Dr
Frankfort, IL 60423

 815-469-7449
 708-822-4450 cell phone

I don't see a checkbox for btc on the form.  Are you sure this the right form.  Like I said it will be interesting to see where this goes.  I'm done trolling.  Good luck guys and gals. 

[Buffer Overflow]

I got a feeling 'mining4fun11' is our old friend Hashking under a different username.

[alexmat]

I think it's time for legal action.

Filing a fraud claim with the Illinois Attorney General is a good place to start. It's free and doesn't limit you from further litigation. I recommend everyone affected take 5-10 minutes to print out the fraud complaint form and mail it in.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/index.html

Here is the info we have on him to help you fill out the form:

RESIDENCE:

SAM THEOFANOPOULOS
9344 W VALLEY FARM DR
FRANKFORT, IL 60423-6505

BUSINESS:

Real People Realty / South & West Suburbs (More)
Sam Theofanopoulos
7262 W Benton Dr
Frankfort, IL 60423

 815-469-7449
 708-822-4450 cell phone

I don't see a checkbox for btc on the form.  Are you sure this the right form.  Like I said it will be interesting to see where this goes.  I'm done trolling.  Good luck guys and gals. 

That brings up a good point. Please claim the fraud amount in USD based value terms. Just like if someone defrauded you out of a car, you would claim the USD value of that car. Likewise, make sure you claim the USD value of the bitcoins.

[Buffer Overflow]

I think it's time for legal action.

Filing a fraud claim with the Illinois Attorney General is a good place to start. It's free and doesn't limit you from further litigation. I recommend everyone affected take 5-10 minutes to print out the fraud complaint form and mail it in.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/index.html

Here is the info we have on him to help you fill out the form:

RESIDENCE:

SAM THEOFANOPOULOS
9344 W VALLEY FARM DR
FRANKFORT, IL 60423-6505

BUSINESS:

Real People Realty / South & West Suburbs (More)
Sam Theofanopoulos
7262 W Benton Dr
Frankfort, IL 60423

 815-469-7449
 708-822-4450 cell phone

I don't see a checkbox for btc on the form.  Are you sure this the right form.  Like I said it will be interesting to see where this goes.  I'm done trolling.  Good luck guys and gals. 

That brings up a good point. Please claim the fraud amount in USD based value terms. Just like if someone defrauded you out of a car, you would claim the USD value of that car. Likewise, make sure you claim the USD value of the bitcoins.

Do we write down the value of Bitcoins now or at the time Sam stole them?

[alexmat]

Do we write down the value of Bitcoins now or at the time Sam stole them?

He was supposed to pay back in bitcoins under the terms of the agreement, so I think it is fair to demand coins be returned. That being the case, the USD value you've been defrauded of is in today's valuation and not when the contract was consummated.

[alexmat]

I think this might be the best approach to discuss when seeking an attorney for more direct claims against hashking: http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2012/12/04/what-is-the-legal-status-of-virtual-goods/

Also, you will need to find an attorney in the state of Illinois where hashking is located. I have spoken with several lawyers so far but none have been interested in litigating a 'virtual property' case. If anyone finds someone willing to work on this issue, please let the rest of us know. This will not be an easy case, but it is not a closed case either, the law regarding virtual transactions has few precedents.

[alexmat]

Take heart, looks like there have been favorable settlements overseas: http://thechronicleherald.ca/world/57498-stealing-virtual-world-theft-real-life-top-dutch-court-rules

[Jurek]

... nobody paid him a visit, right?

Did anyone make any legal moves?

[wachtwoord]

Nope. He also stopped negotiating and hasn't logged on to the forums since December 20th.

[Equilux]

If I remember correctly there was someone who had his personal info, wasn't there?

[Buffer Overflow]

If I remember correctly there was someone who had his personal info, wasn't there?

Yeah, it's a few posts up.

[Jurek]

Filling out http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/conscomp.pdf ...

[alexmat]

Filling out http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/conscomp.pdf ...

Thanks, the more people we get complaining, the greater chance we have of this being looked into.

[CecilNiosaki]

Do we only fill that out if we reside in IL? Or is it applicable for all?

[alexmat]

Do we only fill that out if we reside in IL? Or is it applicable for all?

Applicable to everyone. The reason we need to file in IL is that's where hashking lives. It's easier to prosecute in his home state.