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Author Topic: Hashkings Lending,Deposit 1.25% INSURED, ALL PPT ACCOUNTS CLOSING ON 8/19  (Read 87554 times)
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December 19, 2012, 05:19:02 AM
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I think it's time for legal action.

Filing a fraud claim with the Illinois Attorney General is a good place to start. It's free and doesn't limit you from further litigation. I recommend everyone affected take 5-10 minutes to print out the fraud complaint form and mail it in.

http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/index.html

Here is the info we have on him to help you fill out the form:

RESIDENCE:

SAM THEOFANOPOULOS
9344 W VALLEY FARM DR
FRANKFORT, IL 60423-6505

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Real People Realty / South & West Suburbs (More)
Sam Theofanopoulos
7262 W Benton Dr
Frankfort, IL 60423

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I don't see a checkbox for btc on the form.  Are you sure this the right form.  Like I said it will be interesting to see where this goes.  I'm done trolling.  Good luck guys and gals. 

That brings up a good point. Please claim the fraud amount in USD based value terms. Just like if someone defrauded you out of a car, you would claim the USD value of that car. Likewise, make sure you claim the USD value of the bitcoins.

Do we write down the value of Bitcoins now or at the time Sam stole them?

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December 19, 2012, 05:31:39 AM
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Do we write down the value of Bitcoins now or at the time Sam stole them?

He was supposed to pay back in bitcoins under the terms of the agreement, so I think it is fair to demand coins be returned. That being the case, the USD value you've been defrauded of is in today's valuation and not when the contract was consummated.

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December 19, 2012, 05:41:31 AM
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I think this might be the best approach to discuss when seeking an attorney for more direct claims against hashking: http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2012/12/04/what-is-the-legal-status-of-virtual-goods/

Also, you will need to find an attorney in the state of Illinois where hashking is located. I have spoken with several lawyers so far but none have been interested in litigating a 'virtual property' case. If anyone finds someone willing to work on this issue, please let the rest of us know. This will not be an easy case, but it is not a closed case either, the law regarding virtual transactions has few precedents.

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December 19, 2012, 05:49:01 AM
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Take heart, looks like there have been favorable settlements overseas: http://thechronicleherald.ca/world/57498-stealing-virtual-world-theft-real-life-top-dutch-court-rules

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January 05, 2013, 04:04:34 PM
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... nobody paid him a visit, right?

Did anyone make any legal moves?

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January 05, 2013, 04:27:26 PM
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Nope. He also stopped negotiating and hasn't logged on to the forums since December 20th.

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January 06, 2013, 03:57:29 AM
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If I remember correctly there was someone who had his personal info, wasn't there?

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January 06, 2013, 09:37:26 AM
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If I remember correctly there was someone who had his personal info, wasn't there?

Yeah, it's a few posts up.

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January 08, 2013, 05:04:10 PM
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Filling out http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/consumers/conscomp.pdf ...

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129941
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January 08, 2013, 05:52:53 PM
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Thanks, the more people we get complaining, the greater chance we have of this being looked into.

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January 08, 2013, 06:54:04 PM
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Do we only fill that out if we reside in IL? Or is it applicable for all?
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January 08, 2013, 07:35:29 PM
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Do we only fill that out if we reside in IL? Or is it applicable for all?

Applicable to everyone. The reason we need to file in IL is that's where hashking lives. It's easier to prosecute in his home state.

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January 23, 2013, 01:56:17 PM
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Hashking just sold 8 BFL Singles and is sitting on the coin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137561.0
Hopefully you guys should be seeing at least a little more coin soon.
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January 23, 2013, 05:57:40 PM
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Is mining4fun11 Hashking?

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January 23, 2013, 06:07:34 PM
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Is mining4fun11 Hashking?
Yes. This is the PM I sent to the admins.
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Hi, I was wondering if a new scam accusation was needed in order for the administrators to look into IP logs for someone evading a ban, or whether it could just be done without one?

I believe Hashking has created a new nick "mining4fun11", and has been using it to try to sell the hardware that his investors paid for before he ran off on them.
Hashking had a large farm of FPGA miners, including X6500s, ModminerQuads and BFL Singles. Even after he defaulted he continued to post in the BFGminer thread for support on his Modminers and X6500s until the end of October. He stopped shortly after people started to question why he wasn't paying back when he had a large amount of hardware available.

Around the same time (Oct 20), the mining4fun11 user was created and after posting enough to get out of newbie jail he began seeking help with his farm of X6500s and MMQs. He also stopped into the hashking thread to share some new information that hashking has in the past defaulted on property loans and probably doesn't have any money, and even if he did he would never be caught or punished for a BTC related theft.

I know it's a lot of weak circumstantial evidence, but I hope it's enough to take a look through the IP logs. He was probably smart enough to use Tor or another proxy, but everyone messes up sometimes.

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theymos confirmed that mining4fun11 and hashking log in from the same IP.
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January 23, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
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Thanks for informing us. Hopefully he will do the right thing.

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January 23, 2013, 06:19:43 PM
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He's tagged accordingly, as I see in his profile. Hope he refunds you guys from the proceeds of the sale.

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January 23, 2013, 06:39:07 PM
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If it makes any difference, he's almost assuredly mu50stang and A1BITCOINPOOL as well.
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January 23, 2013, 07:46:57 PM
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If it makes any difference, he's almost assuredly mu50stang and A1BITCOINPOOL as well.

Yeah, he's a serial scammer.

I hope your going to share out the coins to your creditors from the proceeds of the hardware that wasn't yours to sell, Hashking?

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January 23, 2013, 09:20:54 PM
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Hashking, the deal for reduced repayment to me is now in default & so void, I no longer will accept any repayment from you at all - instead I will help you to see that this wasn't such a good idea, I practice what you may call something like Voodoo - anyway all the best with your sanity & stuff, adios...

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