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[Barnstorm]

My account is still active, and they seem to be up to date with wagers and activity, although I haven't played in a long time.

I found this message on the Chat from April 4:

"Registration is disabled as we are working on the new platform. On it, access will be possible only via invites by already existing members."

On March 23, they said: "It's already in the testing phase, so hopefully soon.:

[Kavelj22]

@johanJ

We are all surprised that the activity of all channels and representatives affiliated with the platform has stopped, whether here on the forum or on any other website. It's been more than two years and no updates of any kind. What is even more surprising is that we stopped accepting new registrants at the same time that we did not hear any complaints about the disruption of withdrawals or deposits for old registrants. This ambiguity is not in the platform’s interest if it intends to remain in the market, and I find it necessary to warn users about it until clarifying updates are issued.

At the same time when questions about Fairplay are increasing, you are looking to buy accounts on it. Can you explain to us what you intend to do with these accounts or are you aware of updates to the platform that we have not heard of?

its GAMBLING

i want to start betting on that platform and i am willing to pay real money for the opportunity (as the registration is currently closed, i will pay money to somebody, who has opened an account, when it was still possible). Accounts are totally anonymous, so "transferring" and account like that is really easy and totally safe.

I am willing to take that GAMBLE with all the uncertainty about this platform.

Although I do not encourage anyone to sell a private account or buy a private account from someone else, I find your idea reasonable to acquire a Fairplay account since registration is not available. But except for two points:
- First, because of the current situation of the platform, which we are no longer sure of what is happening with the absence of official clarification on any of its channels. This means that it would be risky to use the platform in this case, in addition to the risk of having an account that is not even registered with your correct info.
- Secondly, in your previous answer you did not specify that you intend to purchase one account, and whoever reads will understand that you want to purchase several accounts.

[johanJ]

@johanJ

We are all surprised that the activity of all channels and representatives affiliated with the platform has stopped, whether here on the forum or on any other website. It's been more than two years and no updates of any kind. What is even more surprising is that we stopped accepting new registrants at the same time that we did not hear any complaints about the disruption of withdrawals or deposits for old registrants. This ambiguity is not in the platform’s interest if it intends to remain in the market, and I find it necessary to warn users about it until clarifying updates are issued.

At the same time when questions about Fairplay are increasing, you are looking to buy accounts on it. Can you explain to us what you intend to do with these accounts or are you aware of updates to the platform that we have not heard of?

its GAMBLING

i want to start betting on that platform and i am willing to pay real money for the opportunity (as the registration is currently closed, i will pay money to somebody, who has opened an account, when it was still possible). Accounts are totally anonymous, so "transferring" and account like that is really easy and totally safe.

I am willing to take that GAMBLE with all the uncertainty about this platform.

Although I do not encourage anyone to sell a private account or buy a private account from someone else, I find your idea reasonable to acquire a Fairplay account since registration is not available. But except for two points:
- First, because of the current situation of the platform, which we are no longer sure of what is happening with the absence of official clarification on any of its channels. This means that it would be risky to use the platform in this case, in addition to the risk of having an account that is not even registered with your correct info.
- Secondly, in your previous answer you did not specify that you intend to purchase one account, and whoever reads will understand that you want to purchase several accounts.

let me clarify a few things - an account on Fairlay is not really a private account per say, not like with any other bookmaker. It does not contain any of your personal information, only the email address and password (both can be changed before transferring). These accounts were really easy to come by, as anybody could register "a thousand" of them with just a different email. Fairlay says that they are in the final period of testing and a new version will be available soon, so people will be able to register for new accounts.

To answer your concern points:

1. I am totally aware of all the risks associated with my proposed transferring procedure and i am ok with them. If you think about it, all the risks are MINE, while the original owner of the account gets paid and has ZERO RISK afterwards. I think its a pretty good deal. I will be able to register there myself soon, but i just want it to be done quick, thats it.

2. I think English being not my native language played a role in that and i was misunderstood. I need a valid account, that i can bet from. Thats it.

with all that being said, i would totally prefer somebody of stature from Bitcointalk to act as an Escrow (for a fee of course), somebody like yourself, for example.

[Kavelj22]

let me clarify a few things - an account on Fairlay is not really a private account per say, not like with any other bookmaker. It does not contain any of your personal information, only the email address and password (both can be changed before transferring). These accounts were really easy to come by, as anybody could register "a thousand" of them with just a different email. Fairlay says that they are in the final period of testing and a new version will be available soon, so people will be able to register for new accounts.

To answer your concern points:

1. I am totally aware of all the risks associated with my proposed transferring procedure and i am ok with them. If you think about it, all the risks are MINE, while the original owner of the account gets paid and has ZERO RISK afterwards. I think its a pretty good deal. I will be able to register there myself soon, but i just want it to be done quick, thats it.

2. I think English being not my native language played a role in that and i was misunderstood. I need a valid account, that i can bet from. Thats it.

with all that being said, i would totally prefer somebody of stature from Bitcointalk to act as an Escrow (for a fee of course), somebody like yourself, for example.

1. This is a fairly sound approach, although I am absolutely against private account trading, no matter how simple it may seem. If the status of the platform is still ambiguous, it is really dangerous to risk what you want to do. The question remains about why you insist on using Fairplay as if it is the only platform available.

2. thank's for the correction. Your English is very good and I can see that your level is very good. In general, do not hesitate to use a translator if other methods are not possible.

Thank you also for your trust, but I do not like to act like Escrow regarding personal accounts, even if they are paid. I can also confirm that any approved Escrow here on the forum will not accept this. Unfortunately, your options are very limited, and this increases the risk.

[Saint-loup]

My account is still active, and they seem to be up to date with wagers and activity, although I haven't played in a long time.

I found this message on the Chat from April 4:

"Registration is disabled as we are working on the new platform. On it, access will be possible only via invites by already existing members."

On March 23, they said: "It's already in the testing phase, so hopefully soon.:

That's the first good news, since very long time, and it's quite surprising to be honest because they haven't posted anything on their twitter account since months. I don't know if they are afraid of vicious bugs hidden on their brand new platform or if they are afraid of some AML, anti-crypto regulation asking KYC, casino license or something like that but I hope I will be able to be invited by some members soon.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

My account is still active, and they seem to be up to date with wagers and activity, although I haven't played in a long time.

I found this message on the Chat from April 4:

"Registration is disabled as we are working on the new platform. On it, access will be possible only via invites by already existing members."

On March 23, they said: "It's already in the testing phase, so hopefully soon.:

So did anybody test if they are taking new members now?
Since betfair won't make any moves to add new payment options it's time for me to find a new betting exchange. Betfair just doesn't go with the time and stay on the same stuff for a decade now.

As a person living in Japan they offer a whopping 3 (!!) options to choose from to fund the account, it's hilarious. And these options are as lame as credit card, bank wire and payz, which is a total joke company.

I have never tried fairlay, hopefully the market liquidity is somehow close to betfair. If so it might be a good alternative.

[Haunebu]

So did anybody test if they are taking new members now?
Since betfair won't make any moves to add new payment options it's time for me to find a new betting exchange. Betfair just doesn't go with the time and stay on the same stuff for a decade now.

As a person living in Japan they offer a whopping 3 (!!) options to choose from to fund the account, it's hilarious. And these options are as lame as credit card, bank wire and payz, which is a total joke company.

I have never tried fairlay, hopefully the market liquidity is somehow close to betfair. If so it might be a good alternative.

I don't know if they are accepting new members now, but I have been a member for a while and I felt that the liquidity is nowhere near Betfair's liquidity though it is decent especially on popular markets.

I suggest checking out Orbit exchange which is also similar to Betfair with great liquidities though you can only access them through agents like Betinasia etc.

[ryzaadit]

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Nope, they're not open registration.

Even if they're not quite making some updates in here, you can always ask them directly to chat live support. They're answering on there, the registration will be open for the update new website they're working on it / required you to getting invited by old member

Ognjen-Support: Registration is disabled as we are working on the new platform. On it, access will be possible only via invites by already existing members.

Feel free to ask on there, for more detail.

[FairlaySupport]

Hi.

Maybe someone want to sell his account?

Selling and buying of accounts is not allowed and all money deposited to accounts sold will be forfeited.

[johanJ]

Ognjen-Support: Registration is disabled as we are working on the new platform. On it, access will be possible only via invites by already existing members.

cool that a new platform will be released soon

i understand that on Fairlay there is always a marketmaker for a listed sporting event. The exact offer of different matches, and the exact same odds, fairlay using Pinnacle "terms and conditions" for betting, as well as reading other peoples comments i understand that the default marketmaker on fairlay is Pinnacle. That is most of the bets are matched by Pinnacle, unless some other fairlay member was willing to accept a bet, thus creating a market offer.

I was curious about it and followed odds of some markets. I noticed that when odds change on pinnacle, they automatically change in Fairlay also. They are always the same as pinnacle, always a little bit (very little to be honest) smaller. Also the way fairlay website works, it doesnt update the odds in real real time, but if you refresh fairlay market page after a change in pinnacle, it will always show the exact pinnacle odds (minus the small commission i suppose?).

So, @Ognjen-Support, am i right that Pinnacle is the default marketmaker (the ones actually accepting users's bets) on Fairlay ?

[newfish1]

In a recent case of alleged match-fixing we removed 799mBTC from an account belonging to an Ukrainian individual. The user is hereby issued a life-time ban to use any services we provide. To have a fair resolution what to do with these funds, we will seek independent arbitration to handle the conflict with that individual.     In order to send out a clear message, that our platform may not be used for any kind of fraud and to inform other parties about a potential ongoing fraud around certain teams and players, we will do this publicly.

The counterparty in the bets has provided overwhelming evidence, that the matches said user was betting on, were fixed.

For example:

https://de.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/19/finland/kakkonen/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/tampere-united/4323331/
https://de.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/12/finland/kakkonen/fc-kiffen-08/futura/4323169/


All the goals and highlights from the 2nd match can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4rC7403Dc4

It seems, that especially the players

Oleksii Kazakov
Nikita Sinitsyn

might have been paid to let certain goals happen on purpose.  

Further evidence will be posted later on.


Betting history of the banned user:


Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.259   Ilves Kissat +4.0   98.99   05/19/2024 12:18   124.68   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.519   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:17   227.96   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.169   Ilves Kissat +3.75   149.99   05/19/2024 12:16   175.43   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.209   Ilves Kissat +3.75   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   181.37   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.639   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   245.90   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.769   Ilves Kissat +4.0   100.00   05/19/2024 12:13   176.99   05/19/2024 12:44
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.069   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.65   05/18/2024 13:25   53.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.653   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:25   32.67   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.892   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.00   05/18/2024 13:24   43.75   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.089   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.67   05/18/2024 13:24   54.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.909   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.99   05/18/2024 13:24   45.45   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.179   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   74.70   05/18/2024 13:23   88.10   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.019   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   50.96   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.787   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   39.37   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.618   Centro Limoeirense +4.25   74.22   05/18/2024 13:17   120.11   05/18/2024 13:50
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.990   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   70.00   05/17/2024 18:42   69.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.790   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   125.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.730   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   121.10   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.917   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   80.00   05/17/2024 18:40   73.36   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.490   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   104.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.180   Botafogo FC SP -2.75   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   82.60   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.070   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   74.00   05/17/2024 18:39   79.18   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.760   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   59.00   05/17/2024 18:38   103.84   05/17/2024 19:11
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.840   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   184.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.580   FC Kiffen -4.25   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   158.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.700   FC Kiffen -4.25   130.00   05/12/2024 13:25   221.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.790   FC Kiffen -4.25   139.00   05/12/2024 13:22   248.81   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   1.943   FC Kontu +0.75   31.00   05/09/2024 11:14   31.00   05/09/2024 12:28
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   2.640   FC Kontu +0.25   29.00   05/09/2024 11:13   29.00   05/09/2024 11:43
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   3.050   FC Kontu +0.0   29.11   05/09/2024 11:11   29.11   05/09/2024 11:43
Al Faisaly Harmah vs. Al Ahli Jeddah   1.840   Over 2.0   1.00   05/07/2024 13:10   0.84   05/07/2024 15:11
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.943   Over 3.5   197.00   04/24/2024 16:20   185.77   04/24/2024 17:21
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.970   Over 3.5   192.00   04/24/2024 16:19   186.24   04/24/2024 17:21
Ilves Kissat vs. SexyPoxyt   1.854   Ilves Kissat -1.5   0.99   04/20/2024 10:49   0.99   04/20/2024 12:05
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.952   EBK -2.0   5.00   04/16/2024 17:10   0.00   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.662   EBK -1.75   10.00   04/16/2024 17:09   3.31   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.632   EBK -1.75   20.00   04/16/2024 17:09   6.32   04/16/2024 18:21
FC Futura vs. MyPa   1.909   FC Futura +0.0   20.00   04/13/2024 14:31   0.00   04/13/2024 15:48
FC Futura vs. MyPa   2.470   Over 2.5   1.00   04/13/2024 13:43   1.00   04/13/2024 15:25
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.819   Over 4.0   44.00   04/11/2024 16:30   36.03   04/11/2024 17:21
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.826   Over 3.75   220.00   04/11/2024 16:21   181.72   04/11/2024 17:21
Cdp Junior FC vs. Millonarios FC   2.390   Over 2.25   99.00   03/23/2024 21:12   137.61   03/23/2024 22:21

Hi BitcoinTalk Community! This story about block 800mBTC belongs to me. I have already sent a lot of explanations to Failay. In last mails from FairPlay they say : “we will keep 800 mBTC, and seek arbitration by the trustworthy entities in public space”. But no one has reported to me that my case will be discussed in this forum. So it’s bit not polit to start a public dispute without my presence.

My English is not good enough, I will ask friend with better english to help me explain my point of view in future posts.

[FairlaySupport]

Case is moved to a seperate thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498092.0

please feel free to post your comments there. @newfish1