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[Kluge]

Does this mean you'll pay back all TyGrr* investors if something goes wrong ?

I think it just means he'll (we'll, I guess) dox him if something goes horribly wrong. IIRC, there's a fairly large fellow near Thailand who's well-in with Goat who'd be able to sit on him.

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[guruvan]

Kluge, the fail isn't on you but on Goat's side
Or am I the only one to find the whole "I will show it to Kluge but not to Nefario" extremely childish?

Does this mean you'll pay back all TyGrr* investors if something goes wrong ?

       ^^ This. Not that I should care much, because if he ends up scamming someone it won't be me

Ya.

I am truly surprised that this is still dragging on.

[stochastic]

The plan is for me to hold Goat's ID in "escrow." I provided Nefario with my own ID and intend to verify Goat's ID, then update Nefario. However, it's a bit past Goat's normal sleep-time, so until that time, I'll be increasing my stake in his assets while confidence is low.


The information's now public, so it isn't insider trading.... right?

Thanks for being the responsible mediator in all of this.

[likuidxd]

Kluge, the fail isn't on you but on Goat's side
Or am I the only one to find the whole "I will show it to Kluge but not to Nefario" extremely childish?

I lost faith in Goat after this very public display of immaturity.

On that note, I too will now say that I claim no responsibility for anything I am responsible for.

Hold assets created by me at your own risk. If I am hacked I will take no responsibility. Why? My account is attached to a free e-mail account that I have used for years on public computers all over the world.

Good luck with your endeavors Goat. I do wish you the best but I will not be investing any further

[likuidxd]

I'm pretty sure he did that to help prevent brute force cracking, and I'm fairly certain that's in context.

Full Quote:

Hold assets created by me at your own risk. If I am hacked I will take no responsibility. Why? My account is attached to a free e-mail account that I have used for years on public computers all over the world. Would I even dream of putting 1000s of bitcoins on the security of this free junk mail account? No, never and to do so would be negligent! This was forced upon me without warning or consent!

Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong but, to me this is you saying; "I tied almost everything I have riding on this to a free email address I have used for years and more than likely a lot of people know. I wouldn't dream of putting the security of other peoples money at risk like this, but my hand was forced to not take 5 minutes and create a new email address that I don't hand out. I take no responsibility for my actions."

Not trolling, you could do should Goat...

[Raoul Duke]

Nefario will also have access to my documents once he explains why he tried to have my BTC/Dollars outside of GLBSE frozen behind my back. There is a lack of trust right now    Had he not done this there never would have been an issue.

That bolded part is intriguing me... especially the "outside of GLBSE" bit!

[schnell]

BTW Kluge has been sent my current ID documents.

Has my home address, work address, electric bill (yeah its high!), work phone, passport number, work permit, university ID, my old drivers license with my old address. I'm sure there is more too but its way more than Nefario asked for.

I bet many people have lost trust in you now, goat
Not me though, I'm just taking advantage of all the panic sellers
Will you be paying the tygrr-bank and all other tygrr dividends that you missed when you have your account back?
How's the bot going, now? Might buy a few shares.

[Kluge]

I've looked over the documents and told Nefario they check out. I did a bit of extra snooping before locking the images away, and everything matches up with outside information. There are a couple minor issues still pending, but everything should be good quite soon.

[Nefario]

Account unlocked.

[Philj]

Account unlocked.

let the fun begin.

[DeaDTerra]

Account unlocked.

Great I am happy you guys managed to solve this
//DeaDTerra

[exahash]

Account unlocked.

And the captcha is gone now too?

[stochastic]

Account unlocked.

And the captcha is gone now too?

I think after failed login attempts.

BTW, any estimation when dividends will be paid out?

[Kluge]

Paid: 9.30102441
Owed (incl. paid): 11.601
Remaining: 2.3 / 3867 (shares I owned @ time of dividend payment) = 5.9478e-4 owed per share, or 0.0059478BTC extra owed per BTC invested @ face value.


Or... to make that more useful for you... 5.5947e-4*16810 (shares which received dividend payment at time dividends were last paid) = ~10BTC remaining dividends owed for the week. (I think. Verify it yourself, first!)

Will do it another way before going to sleep.


ETA: 16810 (total shares) / 3867 (my shares) = 4.347826 (# times my shares must be multiplied to equal total shares). 4.347826(times my shares must be multiplied to equal total)*2.3(amount I'm still owed)=10 (total amount still due).


Woohoo! I can math! Good night.

[stochastic]

I made a dividend payment for TyGrr-Bank however it is not the full amount. Because the way 2.0 is set up I have 4 accounts with TyGrr-Bank stock in each account. This makes accounting very hard to do since one of my accounts pays dividends to a second account. I'm going to do the math and see how much more I need to send. It would be helpful if someone else could do the math and see if it matches my number.

This is something I am going to talk to Nefario about.

Thanks.

I have not created any assets, but doesn't GLBSE tell you how many bonds have been sold, not including the ones you have not released yet?  If so that needs to be an option.

You paid a total of 40.4319163 to 16810 bonds. or 0.00240523 per bond.  You need 0.00059477 per bond more.  So for 16810 bonds you should release an additional 9.998084 BTC to those 16810 bonds.  Whatever part of the 16810 bonds that you own in your 4 accounts would just receive the dividend too which you could just transfer to your personal account.

[teek]

9.999BTC is the number I got as well. I have 800 BTC in GLBSE 2.0 but not 9.999BTC in the right account. I'm going to have to wait until it hits 6 confirms before I can send the rest. Sorry for the delay :/

Thank you for your help.

@Goat.. you can use the internal glbse transfer system for btc transfers between accounts too.. just fyi.

[mila]

Why is there more than one account anyway?

with each asset created there is a sub-account created to manage that asset.
that means you should see an account labeled BTC - this is your main user account
and accounts labeled as your assets. those are asset management accounts.

every account has a btc balance and potfolio (can trade shares, receive dividends and so on)
when you issue new shares, they appear in the asset management account and from there you can sell/transfer them etc.
and only shares outside the asset management account are entitled for dividends & can vote.
thus if you issued 1500 shares for tygrr mining and own part of it, make sure it is in your personal account.
switching between accounts is done in the portfolio page, by clicking on the account name ...

[zapeta]

Goat, will you be putting up buy orders at 0.1 again?

[roomservice]

My shares were bought back by Goat. Thanks a lot, dude!

Will invest again, as soon as i'am liquid on btc anytime soon.

[mila]

will be interesting to watch https://glbse.com/asset/view/TYGRR-BANK for weekly dividend payments
that shows now also number of shares that got them, providing an easy to follow indicator of shares in circulation.
if he was lucky enough to get a place in Pirate's fund and gets higher interest that he pays to glbse members, that's his business. his extra costs are btc held in glbse for open buy order at face value (that will not bring revenue at Pirate's)
I'm curious how many of the 16k bank bonds have been bought back by him this week