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October 07, 2014, 10:45:10 PM
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Anyone think BTCD will surpass BTC in value?? I'm a proud supporter of BTCD so I'd love to see this happen.
with the BTC network effect so big, it will take some massive aggregation of smaller user bases to rival BTC

with 10x more BTC than BTCD, it is not inconceivable for the price of 1 BTCD >= 1 BTC, but this is 100x from here so we are talking years. Possible, but will require years of hard work and growing the network size and everything going right.

In any case, do not worry about such things. All we can do is keep working hard to increase the utility of BTCD.

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October 07, 2014, 11:46:40 PM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

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October 08, 2014, 01:21:19 AM
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Anyone think BTCD will surpass BTC in value?? I'm a proud supporter of BTCD so I'd love to see this happen.
with the BTC network effect so big, it will take some massive aggregation of smaller user bases to rival BTC

with 10x more BTC than BTCD, it is not inconceivable for the price of 1 BTCD >= 1 BTC, but this is 100x from here so we are talking years. Possible, but will require years of hard work and growing the network size and everything going right.

In any case, do not worry about such things. All we can do is keep working hard to increase the utility of BTCD.

James

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Hard work and realism will take you a lot further than hype.
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October 08, 2014, 01:48:39 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers
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October 08, 2014, 02:29:26 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?

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October 08, 2014, 02:38:22 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?
yes, that should be enough, so we can start with ~50
I am assuming we can change the hardware specs as needed?

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
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October 08, 2014, 02:55:14 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?
yes, that should be enough, so we can start with ~50
I am assuming we can change the hardware specs as needed?

yeah I think most offer scalability on the fly.

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October 08, 2014, 02:59:05 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?
yes, that should be enough, so we can start with ~50
I am assuming we can change the hardware specs as needed?

yeah I think most offer scalability on the fly.
what would it take to go ahead with this?

@Azeh, maybe a poll to get community approval for this, we can make it for 3 months and then revisit it after that

James


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October 08, 2014, 03:22:25 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?
yes, that should be enough, so we can start with ~50
I am assuming we can change the hardware specs as needed?

yeah I think most offer scalability on the fly.
what would it take to go ahead with this?

@Azeh, maybe a poll to get community approval for this, we can make it for 3 months and then revisit it after that

James



Poll is up.

In the meantime, while voting is taking place, is anyone willing to step up and take on this task?
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October 08, 2014, 04:04:32 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?
yes, that should be enough, so we can start with ~50
I am assuming we can change the hardware specs as needed?

yeah I think most offer scalability on the fly.
what would it take to go ahead with this?

@Azeh, maybe a poll to get community approval for this, we can make it for 3 months and then revisit it after that

James



Poll is up.

In the meantime, while voting is taking place, is anyone willing to step up and take on this task?
Is it necessary to have the VPS's up all the time?  If testing is only going to be done for certain periods, say for a few hours every few days or whenever features need testing, then it might be worth using AWS spot instances.  You can setup the initial instance and sync it, and then image & clone as many as you need for as long as you need.  To test a new build you would only need to spool up an instance from the last image, compile the updated source, let it sync (only from the point it was last terminated), re-image, and spool up X number of clones.  It feels like this will be a more manageable (and potentially cheaper) approach than renting X number of VPS's for a month and having to update them all individually. 

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October 08, 2014, 04:26:33 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?
yes, that should be enough, so we can start with ~50
I am assuming we can change the hardware specs as needed?

yeah I think most offer scalability on the fly.
what would it take to go ahead with this?

@Azeh, maybe a poll to get community approval for this, we can make it for 3 months and then revisit it after that

James



Poll is up.

In the meantime, while voting is taking place, is anyone willing to step up and take on this task?
Is it necessary to have the VPS's up all the time?  If testing is only going to be done for certain periods, say for a few hours every few days or whenever features need testing, then it might be worth using AWS spot instances.  You can setup the initial instance and sync it, and then image & clone as many as you need for as long as you need.  To test a new build you would only need to spool up an instance from the last image, compile the updated source, let it sync (only from the point it was last terminated), re-image, and spool up X number of clones.  It feels like this will be a more manageable (and potentially cheaper) approach than renting X number of VPS's for a month and having to update them all individually. 
probably 12 hours a day, sometimes 18 while I am actively developing

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October 08, 2014, 04:45:23 AM
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We are getting almost 100 BTCD per month from the staking of the SuperNET funds.
I propose that these funds be used to fund ~100 VPS
I simply need to have ~100 servers to be able to properly test things and the lack of this is causing delay.

These servers can be providing HDD for cloud storage, public routing, public access points, etc.

The funding is part of the problem that can be solved. We also need someone that can manage these servers and keep them updated with new releases, etc.

I need your help to complete the SuperNET, which is needed for Teleport.

James

P.S we can certainly start with less than 100 servers, but I cant do any meaningful testing with half a dozen servers

for 100 VPS's it would probably be in the neighbourhood of $700-1000 a month, for 100 low end 1 CPU 1GB ram and maybe 10-15gb space?
yes, that should be enough, so we can start with ~50
I am assuming we can change the hardware specs as needed?

yeah I think most offer scalability on the fly.
what would it take to go ahead with this?

@Azeh, maybe a poll to get community approval for this, we can make it for 3 months and then revisit it after that

James



Poll is up.

In the meantime, while voting is taking place, is anyone willing to step up and take on this task?
Is it necessary to have the VPS's up all the time?  If testing is only going to be done for certain periods, say for a few hours every few days or whenever features need testing, then it might be worth using AWS spot instances.  You can setup the initial instance and sync it, and then image & clone as many as you need for as long as you need.  To test a new build you would only need to spool up an instance from the last image, compile the updated source, let it sync (only from the point it was last terminated), re-image, and spool up X number of clones.  It feels like this will be a more manageable (and potentially cheaper) approach than renting X number of VPS's for a month and having to update them all individually. 
probably 12 hours a day, sometimes 18 while I am actively developing
I guess it depends on the cost of renting by the month vs by the hour and the benefit of being able to clone for fast deployment.  That said, I often set up my VPS images to wget an initialization script on reboot (via cron) so that I can remotely configure them as I want.  So even with a by-the-month VPS a similar method would allow quick deployment of new code

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October 08, 2014, 06:51:14 AM
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1. I think that if we are going to spend 500-1000$ a month on servers we should be able to press the price a little.

2. I would like to be a part of the team working with the servers, but i have almost 2 weeks this month where I will be in Italy driving world finals in go kart, so I will not be online that 2 weeks.

Also I am no expert in driving servers, but I would like to give a hand if someone else is in charge (at least in the beginning) as the winter is coming and I don't have much else to do after work.


3. If we are to use 20+ servers, we would need to have the ability to ether clone 1 server out to all the other. Or have some service passing out the chances, from the master server, as it else would be to time consuming (and to big error rate)


Please bear in mind that i am a bit dyslexic.
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October 08, 2014, 06:53:55 AM
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1. I think that if we are going to spend 500-1000$ a month on servers we should be able to press the price a little.

2. I would like to be a part of the team working with the servers, but i have almost 2 weeks this month where I will be in Italy driving world finals in go kart, so I will not be online that 2 weeks.

Also I am no expert in driving servers, but I would like to give a hand if someone else is in charge (at least in the beginning) as the winter is coming and I don't have much else to do after work.


3. If we are to use 20+ servers, we would need to have the ability to ether clone 1 server out to all the other. Or have some service passing out the chances, from the master server, as it else would be to time consuming (and to big error rate)


Please bear in mind that i am a bit dyslexic.
all the help we can get is appreciated
cssh can deal with dozens of servers at a time
it echoes the command from keyboard to all the servers
so 50 servers would just be 2 batches

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October 08, 2014, 07:26:12 AM
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1. I think that if we are going to spend 500-1000$ a month on servers we should be able to press the price a little.

2. I would like to be a part of the team working with the servers, but i have almost 2 weeks this month where I will be in Italy driving world finals in go kart, so I will not be online that 2 weeks.

Also I am no expert in driving servers, but I would like to give a hand if someone else is in charge (at least in the beginning) as the winter is coming and I don't have much else to do after work.


3. If we are to use 20+ servers, we would need to have the ability to ether clone 1 server out to all the other. Or have some service passing out the chances, from the master server, as it else would be to time consuming (and to big error rate)


Please bear in mind that i am a bit dyslexic.
all the help we can get is appreciated
cssh can deal with dozens of servers at a time
it echoes the command from keyboard to all the servers
so 50 servers would just be 2 batches

Okay, I just read short about cssh, it seems pretty need.

So how long do the poll run before we are getting in touch with some of the server hosting company's?

jl777 just pm me when you have work ready :-)
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October 08, 2014, 07:58:20 AM
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In your first thread post, remove the "?key=14d5fa432f64c3ff1168ca3abc24fa01&page=start". That's not a good idea, that's the private url-key for a specific account.

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October 08, 2014, 10:43:52 AM
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simple cases of savefile and restorefile are working in loopback mode.
also found a bunch of recursion problems
even the nested ciphers worked, so now it is M of N testing, then combined encrypted M of N
then on the live network, so not sure I can get all this done today...
I debugged savefile and restorefile, but only in loopback mode. so maybe this will just not work with the live network.

anyway I did small files and large files, encrypted, not encrypted, MofN (just 2 of 3) without encryption and MofN with encryption.

so those are all the cases and the savefile automatically does a restorefile with a compare to make it easier for testing.

I also updated to TweetNACL instead of the libnacl.a, much smaller source code and fully reviewed.
fixed a bunch of possible recursion bugs
a bunch of other things to, cant remember them all. I got setup to test locally and so I must have done over 100 builds as it is much faster when I dont have to upload to servers.

dont use files that are too big, there is no error handling for that, so limit to ~100kb

James

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October 08, 2014, 12:14:19 PM
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simple cases of savefile and restorefile are working in loopback mode.
also found a bunch of recursion problems
even the nested ciphers worked, so now it is M of N testing, then combined encrypted M of N
then on the live network, so not sure I can get all this done today...
I debugged savefile and restorefile, but only in loopback mode. so maybe this will just not work with the live network.

anyway I did small files and large files, encrypted, not encrypted, MofN (just 2 of 3) without encryption and MofN with encryption.

so those are all the cases and the savefile automatically does a restorefile with a compare to make it easier for testing.

I also updated to TweetNACL instead of the libnacl.a, much smaller source code and fully reviewed.
fixed a bunch of possible recursion bugs
a bunch of other things to, cant remember them all. I got setup to test locally and so I must have done over 100 builds as it is much faster when I dont have to upload to servers.

dont use files that are too big, there is no error handling for that, so limit to ~100kb

James


Nice idea using TweetNACL, much more compact than libnacl or libsodium on Windows. Should reduce compilation frustration.

I'm excited about decentralized storage. This opens up a large amount of new possibilities for future applications to be built on top of BTCD.  Smiley

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October 08, 2014, 12:20:07 PM
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simple cases of savefile and restorefile are working in loopback mode.
also found a bunch of recursion problems
even the nested ciphers worked, so now it is M of N testing, then combined encrypted M of N
then on the live network, so not sure I can get all this done today...
I debugged savefile and restorefile, but only in loopback mode. so maybe this will just not work with the live network.

anyway I did small files and large files, encrypted, not encrypted, MofN (just 2 of 3) without encryption and MofN with encryption.

so those are all the cases and the savefile automatically does a restorefile with a compare to make it easier for testing.

I also updated to TweetNACL instead of the libnacl.a, much smaller source code and fully reviewed.
fixed a bunch of possible recursion bugs
a bunch of other things to, cant remember them all. I got setup to test locally and so I must have done over 100 builds as it is much faster when I dont have to upload to servers.

dont use files that are too big, there is no error handling for that, so limit to ~100kb

James


Nice idea using TweetNACL, much more compact than libnacl or libsodium on Windows. Should reduce compilation frustration.

I'm excited about decentralized storage. This opens up a large amount of new possibilities for future applications to be built on top of BTCD.  Smiley

Matthew
still need randombytes.o, but we can always extract that and compile it for different OS

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October 08, 2014, 12:37:02 PM
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simple cases of savefile and restorefile are working in loopback mode.
also found a bunch of recursion problems
even the nested ciphers worked, so now it is M of N testing, then combined encrypted M of N
then on the live network, so not sure I can get all this done today...
I debugged savefile and restorefile, but only in loopback mode. so maybe this will just not work with the live network.

anyway I did small files and large files, encrypted, not encrypted, MofN (just 2 of 3) without encryption and MofN with encryption.

so those are all the cases and the savefile automatically does a restorefile with a compare to make it easier for testing.

I also updated to TweetNACL instead of the libnacl.a, much smaller source code and fully reviewed.
fixed a bunch of possible recursion bugs
a bunch of other things to, cant remember them all. I got setup to test locally and so I must have done over 100 builds as it is much faster when I dont have to upload to servers.

dont use files that are too big, there is no error handling for that, so limit to ~100kb

James


Nice idea using TweetNACL, much more compact than libnacl or libsodium on Windows. Should reduce compilation frustration.

I'm excited about decentralized storage. This opens up a large amount of new possibilities for future applications to be built on top of BTCD.  Smiley

Matthew
still need randombytes.o, but we can always extract that and compile it for different OS

Yes, randombytes has its own separate ./do file we can use to build it.

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