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September 26, 2014, 04:46:48 PM
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Why does it already have over 200pages and has been growing much faster than BTCD. I did come on here to fight. I like BTCD, I think they can work well together. Smiley

I took a look when they first launched and labeled it a BTCD wannabe.

But in the spirit of Unity I guess it wouldn't hurt to take a second look see  Smiley

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September 26, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
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the blockchain is used to verify the funds before crediting the sender
Alice wants to buy something from Bob and Jack, but has enough money only for one purchase, not both. Nonetheless she sends her privkeys to them both, they verify that funds indeed belong to the privkey, and send her the purchases. After waiting reasonable amount of time, so that the purchases already sent, Alice performs regular onchain transaction sending the funds to herself.
Not correct.
They both spend the funds, but only one of them succeeds as it has been seen that the blockchain does in fact prevent double spends. So, one of the vendors is happy and sends the goods for the purchase. the other is angry and blacklisting Alice and certainly not sending anything to her. Alice cant send any funds as one of the vendors already has it

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September 26, 2014, 04:52:24 PM
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I do own some BTCD, Am I then one of the stakeholders?     I am still fuzzy on the details.

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As long as you keep the wallet open and unlock to stake then you are one of the stakeholders. The point is to keep the network as secure as possible and only people staking can make that happen. Along with gaining more BTCD, the dividend is pretty much an incentive since so much of SuperNET will be riding on BTCD. There is also mention of checking how long each user stakes to determine fairness of dividend so that opening the wallet once a month for a few hours doesn't gain the same benefit as someone that always keeps theirs' open. Basically, you are rewarded twice over for keeping the wallet open and staking.



NICE... However it says the dividends will be paid to an associated nxt addy? how does that work.


you pick a public BTCD address to use. It doesnt have to have much BTCD in it. The software will automatically map this address to a NXT address (using its privkey), then it will make a NXT alias so that you can use the same public BTCD address even inside NXT

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James,  Thank you much for answering.

My only question left is:
How do I 'pick a public BTCD address to use'?    And I assume I want to use the addy that holds all my btcd.
unless you want to impress girls, the public address should probably have a minimal amount of btcd.
now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

edit: just make a new address and it is your public address, or you can just use the address you have already been using. I am just nervous to publish accts with any big amounts in them

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
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September 26, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
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James, can you tell us your oppinion on NHZ and it's possible SuperNET future?
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September 26, 2014, 05:47:37 PM
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now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

I've shown girls my BTCD account in private, they are only impressed by US Dollars  Cry Cry
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September 26, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
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now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

I've shown girls my BTCD account in private, they are only impressed by US Dollars  Cry Cry
maybe this will help?

10   BitcoinDark   $ 6,232,584   $ 5.26   

just tell them each one is worth a bit more than a $5 USD note

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September 26, 2014, 08:23:15 PM
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over half a dozen people have successfully built the test BitcoinDarkd and now we have about a dozen nodes in the network for me to test with.

So, this is a good step forward as it means the code is not specific to my dev environment and other than some onetime build issues, things seem to be pretty smooth

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September 26, 2014, 08:49:11 PM
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errmm.. now here is a real newb Windo$e question:

I have made a build of Bitcoindark-qt, but I seem to be unable to access the File and Settings functions.
I would expect them to be the same as in bitcoin.

Did my build screw up the drop down menus with the access to the wallet file functions?
Or is Bitcoind-qt not supposed to have these?

BitcoinDarkd accessed with RPC should have them, but can anyone give me a hint just to be sure?





as opposed to:





Thanks!
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September 26, 2014, 09:02:50 PM
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errmm.. now here is a real newb Windo$e question:

I have made a build of Bitcoindark-qt, but I seem to be unable to access the File and Settings functions.
I would expect them to be the same as in bitcoin.

Did my build screw up the drop down menus with the access to the wallet file functions?
Or is Bitcoind-qt not supposed to have these?

BitcoinDarkd accessed with RPC should have them, but can anyone give me a hint just to be sure?





as opposed to:





Thanks!
it does have the File and Settings, so some sort of option or build problem is my guess

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
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September 26, 2014, 09:50:37 PM
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I have made a build of Bitcoindark-qt, but I seem to be unable to access the File and Settings functions.

This happens to me occasionally on Ubuntu with various QT wallets. Restarting the client usually fixes it.

Those who cause problems for others also cause problems for themselves.
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September 26, 2014, 09:55:07 PM
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I do own some BTCD, Am I then one of the stakeholders?     I am still fuzzy on the details.

Jim


As long as you keep the wallet open and unlock to stake then you are one of the stakeholders. The point is to keep the network as secure as possible and only people staking can make that happen. Along with gaining more BTCD, the dividend is pretty much an incentive since so much of SuperNET will be riding on BTCD. There is also mention of checking how long each user stakes to determine fairness of dividend so that opening the wallet once a month for a few hours doesn't gain the same benefit as someone that always keeps theirs' open. Basically, you are rewarded twice over for keeping the wallet open and staking.



NICE... However it says the dividends will be paid to an associated nxt addy? how does that work.


you pick a public BTCD address to use. It doesnt have to have much BTCD in it. The software will automatically map this address to a NXT address (using its privkey), then it will make a NXT alias so that you can use the same public BTCD address even inside NXT

James

James,  Thank you much for answering.

My only question left is:
How do I 'pick a public BTCD address to use'?    And I assume I want to use the addy that holds all my btcd.
unless you want to impress girls, the public address should probably have a minimal amount of btcd.
now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

edit: just make a new address and it is your public address, or you can just use the address you have already been using. I am just nervous to publish accts with any big amounts in them

Ok, now I am confused,  How does it know I am staking X amount of coins if the addy I publish is empty?

edit:

Example:

1.  John has 1200 BTCD in a personal wallet and the wallet is currently staking at approx 5% year.
2.  John wants to publish his addy so he can receive the extra income from superNet to btcd stakeholders.

Question1.  HOW does he publish his address?
Question2.  How does the program know he is staking 1200 coins if the address he publishes is a new one?


Jim

sorry for all the questions, trying to understand what is going on.  I cannot find documentation other then the white paper and infomationsl PDF on superNet site.


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September 26, 2014, 10:39:37 PM
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I do own some BTCD, Am I then one of the stakeholders?     I am still fuzzy on the details.

Jim


As long as you keep the wallet open and unlock to stake then you are one of the stakeholders. The point is to keep the network as secure as possible and only people staking can make that happen. Along with gaining more BTCD, the dividend is pretty much an incentive since so much of SuperNET will be riding on BTCD. There is also mention of checking how long each user stakes to determine fairness of dividend so that opening the wallet once a month for a few hours doesn't gain the same benefit as someone that always keeps theirs' open. Basically, you are rewarded twice over for keeping the wallet open and staking.



NICE... However it says the dividends will be paid to an associated nxt addy? how does that work.


you pick a public BTCD address to use. It doesnt have to have much BTCD in it. The software will automatically map this address to a NXT address (using its privkey), then it will make a NXT alias so that you can use the same public BTCD address even inside NXT

James

James,  Thank you much for answering.

My only question left is:
How do I 'pick a public BTCD address to use'?    And I assume I want to use the addy that holds all my btcd.
unless you want to impress girls, the public address should probably have a minimal amount of btcd.
now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

edit: just make a new address and it is your public address, or you can just use the address you have already been using. I am just nervous to publish accts with any big amounts in them

Ok, now I am confused,  How does it know I am staking X amount of coins if the addy I publish is empty?

edit:

Example:

1.  John has 1200 BTCD in a personal wallet and the wallet is currently staking at approx 5% year.
2.  John wants to publish his addy so he can receive the extra income from superNet to btcd stakeholders.

Question1.  HOW does he publish his address?
Question2.  How does the program know he is staking 1200 coins if the address he publishes is a new one?


Jim

sorry for all the questions, trying to understand what is going on.  I cannot find documentation other then the white paper and infomationsl PDF on superNet site.


all staking is visible on the blockchain. doesnt matter who controls the address for the staking based rewards as the dividend will be sent to the staking address (assuming it is bigger than some minimum level)

http://www.digitalcatallaxy.com/report2015.html
100+ page annual report for SuperNET
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September 26, 2014, 10:54:39 PM
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We are considering BTCD to be added in the very first days of the release at: Coin Market App Let your voices be heard about getting BitcoinDark (BTCD) added into the mobile app. Smiley

Think we can compile a list of links to show up when people click on 'BitcoinDark' Link Directory?
Please feel free to tell us in the thread what should be added at Coin Market App ..

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September 27, 2014, 05:27:47 AM
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Why does it already have over 200pages and has been growing much faster than BTCD. I did come on here to fight. I like BTCD, I think they can work well together. Smiley

I took a look when they first launched and labeled it a BTCD wannabe.

But in the spirit of Unity I guess it wouldn't hurt to take a second look see  Smiley

JJ

I took a look at it a week or two ago (sometime during their pump) and didn't see any new tech/innovation.  Unless something has changed, it looks like they are just playing off of the popularity of BTCD.  Either way, who wants LitecoinDark when you have BitcoinDark?  I mean, would you rather own Litecoin or Bitcoin?

As a random side note, I would love nothing more than to see Litecoin get dethroned from its 2nd place in market cap.  It's held onto that place for far too long and I believe it no longer deserves it, especially with all the new innovations that are out there.
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September 27, 2014, 08:40:25 AM
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To testers, I pushed a new version. Please ./m_unix so we sync to the new version

It has a new API call:
./BitcoinDarkd SuperNET '{"requestType":"getPservers"}'

this triggers the remote node to send:
{"requestType":"publishPservers","NXT":"13434315136155299987","Pservers":["209.126.70.159","162.248.163.43","209.126.70.170","209.126.70.156"],"firstPserver":0,"Numpservers":4,"xorsum":2196080243}

In addition to helping synchronize routing, this is also debugging remote API calls.

Over 20 source files have changed, so I hope I didnt break anything. I had to create an entirely new data structure for the IP address oriented data. This is put into a hashtable and linked to the normal account data in its own hashtable. I am having to maintain the privacyServer (Pservers) that all the other nodes know about so that I can make sure to not put it in an onion layer where it wont be able to route. At least for the hops that are not  the last hop

To fix the routing problem basically an entirely parallel data structure had to be made. A bunch of other small changes and I am not quite happy with the handshaking, but I think it should be much improved.

Still need to propagate a new node appearing without flooding the network, not sure the best way yet, but slowly things are getting more and more solid and more and more functional

James

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September 27, 2014, 09:27:13 AM
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unless you want to impress girls, the public address should probably have a minimal amount of btcd.
now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

edit: just make a new address and it is your public address, or you can just use the address you have already been using. I am just nervous to publish accts with any big amounts in them

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September 27, 2014, 10:33:46 AM
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errmm.. now here is a real newb Windo$e question:

I have made a build of Bitcoindark-qt, but I seem to be unable to access the File and Settings functions.
I would expect them to be the same as in bitcoin.

Did my build screw up the drop down menus with the access to the wallet file functions?
Or is Bitcoind-qt not supposed to have these?

BitcoinDarkd accessed with RPC should have them, but can anyone give me a hint just to be sure?





as opposed to:





Thanks!

If you are using Ubuntu 14.04.1 with gnome desktop environment, when the BTCD wallet is active, look at top-left corner for File, Settings & Help menu. I was lost for the first time as well. But working perfect for me now.
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September 27, 2014, 01:45:09 PM
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I do own some BTCD, Am I then one of the stakeholders?     I am still fuzzy on the details.

Jim


As long as you keep the wallet open and unlock to stake then you are one of the stakeholders. The point is to keep the network as secure as possible and only people staking can make that happen. Along with gaining more BTCD, the dividend is pretty much an incentive since so much of SuperNET will be riding on BTCD. There is also mention of checking how long each user stakes to determine fairness of dividend so that opening the wallet once a month for a few hours doesn't gain the same benefit as someone that always keeps theirs' open. Basically, you are rewarded twice over for keeping the wallet open and staking.



NICE... However it says the dividends will be paid to an associated nxt addy? how does that work.


you pick a public BTCD address to use. It doesnt have to have much BTCD in it. The software will automatically map this address to a NXT address (using its privkey), then it will make a NXT alias so that you can use the same public BTCD address even inside NXT

James

James,  Thank you much for answering.

My only question left is:
How do I 'pick a public BTCD address to use'?    And I assume I want to use the addy that holds all my btcd.
unless you want to impress girls, the public address should probably have a minimal amount of btcd.
now you can still impress the girls by showing your big acct in private Smiley

edit: just make a new address and it is your public address, or you can just use the address you have already been using. I am just nervous to publish accts with any big amounts in them

Ok, now I am confused,  How does it know I am staking X amount of coins if the addy I publish is empty?

edit:

Example:

1.  John has 1200 BTCD in a personal wallet and the wallet is currently staking at approx 5% year.
2.  John wants to publish his addy so he can receive the extra income from superNet to btcd stakeholders.

Question1.  HOW does he publish his address?
Question2.  How does the program know he is staking 1200 coins if the address he publishes is a new one?


Jim

sorry for all the questions, trying to understand what is going on.  I cannot find documentation other then the white paper and infomationsl PDF on superNet site.


all staking is visible on the blockchain. doesnt matter who controls the address for the staking based rewards as the dividend will be sent to the staking address (assuming it is bigger than some minimum level)


I understand how simple staking works, my wallet is getting paid normally.

Lets start over:

according to this document:  http://www.weebly.com/uploads/3/8/5/6/38564127/supernet.pdf

Code:
Revenues received from the services detailed above and any others added by participating
cryptocurrencies will be distributed in the following proportions:
 5 percent for BTCD stakers, via an associated NXT address


Please explain how the BTCD stakers will get paid?     

James said I just publish a BTCD addy that does not have coins in it.. How then does the payment system know how much to pay me.. do I also associate the empty btcd addy with the one staking?  How is this done..Huh


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September 27, 2014, 02:46:22 PM
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New BTCD blockchain explorer http://explorebtcd.info/ Still need a lot of things to change. eg. latest transaction and amount. It would be nice to see staked amount with each block. I'm not a dev, doing my best I can with this for the BTCD community. If you visit the site from a mobile phone or tablet with camera, you will be able to use it to scan QR codes and search.
I'll try to make a rich list as well. I have no idea how yet, will look for info.

Any feedbacks are welcome.

BTCDDev please update the OP - Block Explorers. Thanks.
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September 27, 2014, 03:43:28 PM
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New BTCD blockchain explorer http://explorebtcd.info/ Still need a lot of things to change. eg. latest transaction and amount. It would be nice to see staked amount with each block. I'm not a dev, doing my best I can with this for the BTCD community. If you visit the site from a mobile phone or tablet with camera, you will be able to use it to scan QR codes and search.
I'll try to make a rich list as well. I have no idea how yet, will look for info.

Any feedbacks are welcome.

BTCDDev please update the OP - Block Explorers. Thanks.

Looks great!

Not Found

The requested URL / was not found on this server.

Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at explorebtcd.info Port 80
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