[ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine

[mikenz]

people we mustn't push the dev coz he is working hard.Be patience guys!

+1 Bitfreak is doing awesome work. Nobody has a right to push him. He is reliable and constantly communicating with the community without any brainless hyped claims. In fact, I didnt see any Altcoin dev with that mature and reliable behavior so far.

XCN has a more innovative tech than 99% of the copycoins out there. But it provides no anon yet which is a must have standard feature nowadays.  While I agree that this coin really doesnt need to focus on a fancy superspecial anon solution like all the other coins, wouldnt it be possible to implement a simple mixer solution from an existing anoncoin without the need for a complete new rollout/blockchain? Guess the community would be more than happy to crowdfund a further dev for this, as we saw the impact on price when there were merely talks about a possible XCN cooperation with BTCD/Supernetwork.

[tc61]

Should have kept it a Nvidia based coin, now that the China AMD farms have it it will tank.

[go6ooo1212]

Just waiting my couple GTX980s arriving soon

[Jungian]

Should have kept it a Nvidia based coin, now that the China AMD farms have it it will tank.

But yeah, like how the chinese killed Bitcoin, Litecoin and Darkcoin with their miners and stuff. They are really out to get that 0.1BTC profit.

The coin was so huge and then the chinese came and killed it. Even letting nvidia miners was too much, we should only have allowed a specific card with special drivers to mine it and also have every single miner fill in an application before they are allowed that driver. That's how you really make it successful! Close access to everyone expect a chosen few.

[pallas]

Should have kept it a Nvidia based coin, now that the China AMD farms have it it will tank.

But yeah, like how the chinese killed Bitcoin, Litecoin and Darkcoin with their miners and stuff. They are really out to get that 0.1BTC profit.

The coin was so huge and then the chinese came and killed it. Even letting nvidia miners was too much, we should only have allowed a specific card with special drivers to mine it and also have every single miner fill in an application before they are allowed that driver. That's how you really make it successful! Close access to everyone expect a chosen few.

"a choosen few"
and who chooses?

[Jungian]

Should have kept it a Nvidia based coin, now that the China AMD farms have it it will tank.

But yeah, like how the chinese killed Bitcoin, Litecoin and Darkcoin with their miners and stuff. They are really out to get that 0.1BTC profit.

The coin was so huge and then the chinese came and killed it. Even letting nvidia miners was too much, we should only have allowed a specific card with special drivers to mine it and also have every single miner fill in an application before they are allowed that driver. That's how you really make it successful! Close access to everyone expect a chosen few.

"a choosen few"
and who chooses?

Your flux sarcasm detector is not at maximum overdrive I take it.

[myagui]

Me, Me, Me! 
~ Myagui

[digitalindustry]

Should have kept it a Nvidia based coin, now that the China AMD farms have it it will tank.

But yeah, like how the chinese killed Bitcoin, Litecoin and Darkcoin with their miners and stuff. They are really out to get that 0.1BTC profit.

The coin was so huge and then the chinese came and killed it. Even letting nvidia miners was too much, we should only have allowed a specific card with special drivers to mine it and also have every single miner fill in an application before they are allowed that driver. That's how you really make it successful! Close access to everyone expect a chosen few.

indeed i have many times said "let the market work" - the people always talk about a free market except when they involved, then they talk a lot about what should help them. (of course)

[SRBOOTH]

Having problems with wallet crashing, I have done the qt and dll updates, deleted conf file all except wallet dat. Am I missing something?

[unknownknown]

XCN has a more innovative tech than 99% of the copycoins out there. But it provides no anon yet which is a must have standard feature nowadays.  While I agree that this coin really doesnt need to focus on a fancy superspecial anon solution like all the other coins, wouldnt it be possible to implement a simple mixer solution from an existing anoncoin without the need for a complete new rollout/blockchain? Guess the community would be more than happy to crowdfund a further dev for this, as we saw the impact on price when there were merely talks about a possible XCN cooperation with BTCD/Supernetwork.

I am a strong supporter of optional anonymity because that feature will be important in many countries if altcoins are going to have political power, but looking at the work of bitfreak and any others working with him/her it looks like they are ahead of the curve enough that a feature like that will not arrive too late.

Also as you say it might be that some person can add an open source tweak, like a mixer and/or a utility that routes the connection through a tor like service.

[iCEBREAKER]

XCN has a more innovative tech than 99% of the copycoins out there. But it provides no anon yet which is a must have standard feature nowadays.  While I agree that this coin really doesnt need to focus on a fancy superspecial anon solution like all the other coins, wouldnt it be possible to implement a simple mixer solution from an existing anoncoin without the need for a complete new rollout/blockchain? Guess the community would be more than happy to crowdfund a further dev for this, as we saw the impact on price when there were merely talks about a possible XCN cooperation with BTCD/Supernetwork.

I am a strong supporter of optional anonymity because that feature will be important in many countries if altcoins are going to have political power, but looking at the work of bitfreak and any others working with him/her it looks like they are ahead of the curve enough that a feature like that will not arrive too late.

Also as you say it might be that some person can add an open source tweak, like a mixer and/or a utility that routes the connection through a tor like service.

The bad news is you need ring signatures for real anonymity at the moment.

The good news is many people are working on better forms of obfuscation for Bitcoin, so whatever they come up with can be glommed on to XCN, and probably with improvements thanks to XCN's advanced features.
 
Coinjoin is a start, with XC, DarkCoin, and ZeroCoin actively trying to improve upon it.  'DarkNite' has a nice ring to it!   

[unknownknown]

The bad news is you need ring signatures for real anonymity at the moment.

The good news is many people are working on better forms of obfuscation for Bitcoin, so whatever they come up with can be glommed on to XCN, and probably with improvements thanks to XCN's advanced features.
 
Coinjoin is a start, with XC, DarkCoin, and ZeroCoin actively trying to improve upon it.  'DarkNite' has a nice ring to it!   

 People sense that many governments / politicians are going to fight the new economy, and people think this or that kind of anonymity will be useful http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=7168919 but who knows.

Ultimately it will be like every abrupt change in society, the smart vs the rich, or the stupid vs the poor.

[polanskiman]

Should have kept it a Nvidia based coin, now that the China AMD farms have it it will tank.

But yeah, like how the chinese killed Bitcoin, Litecoin and Darkcoin with their miners and stuff. They are really out to get that 0.1BTC profit.

The coin was so huge and then the chinese came and killed it. Even letting nvidia miners was too much, we should only have allowed a specific card with special drivers to mine it and also have every single miner fill in an application before they are allowed that driver. That's how you really make it successful! Close access to everyone expect a chosen few.

3rd most stupid comment I've read so far.

[bitfreak!]

polanskiman: I believe Jungian was being sarcastic. Personally I don't see much issue with having an AMD miner available, especially when it's so much slower than the nVidia miners. I personally don't own any nVidia cards, but I buy all my XCN anyway.

[polanskiman]

polanskiman: I believe Jungian was being sarcastic. Personally I don't see much issue with having an AMD miner available, especially when it's so much slower than the nVidia miners. I personally don't own any nVidia cards, but I buy all my XCN anyway.

If it was sarcastic, I really didn't see it. If it wasn't my comment still stands as what is being said is total non sense

[ocminer]

Hey folks,

is there a working AMD GPU Miner without 1gh restriction ?

I'm currently testing a stratum implementation and would need some spare hashes.. anynone interested ?

[albert3]

DarkNite' has a nice ring to it!

Ohh snap! we are transforming to Batman , now we are going to take over Gotham City

[Jungian]

XCN has a more innovative tech than 99% of the copycoins out there. But it provides no anon yet which is a must have standard feature nowadays.  While I agree that this coin really doesnt need to focus on a fancy superspecial anon solution like all the other coins, wouldnt it be possible to implement a simple mixer solution from an existing anoncoin without the need for a complete new rollout/blockchain? Guess the community would be more than happy to crowdfund a further dev for this, as we saw the impact on price when there were merely talks about a possible XCN cooperation with BTCD/Supernetwork.

I am a strong supporter of optional anonymity because that feature will be important in many countries if altcoins are going to have political power, but looking at the work of bitfreak and any others working with him/her it looks like they are ahead of the curve enough that a feature like that will not arrive too late.

Also as you say it might be that some person can add an open source tweak, like a mixer and/or a utility that routes the connection through a tor like service.

The bad news is you need ring signatures for real anonymity at the moment.

The good news is many people are working on better forms of obfuscation for Bitcoin, so whatever they come up with can be glommed on to XCN, and probably with improvements thanks to XCN's advanced features.
 
Coinjoin is a start, with XC, DarkCoin, and ZeroCoin actively trying to improve upon it.  'DarkNite' has a nice ring to it!  

Anoncoin is just about to release ZC. Less then a month til it's on testnet. Howoever, the proofs are HUGE so the bloat is big. Would be nice if it could be on a minichain.

Hey folks,

is there a working AMD GPU Miner without 1gh restriction ?

I'm currently testing a stratum implementation and would need some spare hashes.. anynone interested ?

No, at the moment it's only 1gh for AMD

[myagui]

Interesting that XCN trading on BTER is so distant from that on Poloniex. BTER actually shows some buying is happening now and then, while Poloniex looks like a systemic dumpfest. Dunno what to make of it though... There's clearly an opportunity for someone with funds in both exchanges (buy @ polo, sell @ bter). 
~ Myagui
 

[unknownknown]

Anoncoin is just about to release ZC. Less then a month til it's on testnet. Howoever, the proofs are HUGE so the bloat is big. Would be nice if it could be on a minichain.

Although the quality of anc's zerocoin remains to be seen, I agree strongly with the suggestion that coins need to start moving in the direction of consolidating and working to make longer term projects. With dozens of new coins arriving every day the only ones that will last are the ones that can eat other coins, or work with them.

The ideal coin right now in my opinion a mix of xcn with an anonymous coin like anc and a human mined coin like huc.

The first coin to be truly human mined will jump ahead of all other coins quickly. HUC is the closest to that.
Anonymity is extremely important to some people in some places but for a coin to succeed long term the anonymity must be optional. Most people will reject mandatory anonymity.