[ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes

[timedelay]

if we wanna attract a lot of new people and immediately create a big network of masternodes, why not get rid of any requirement.

I am even thinking about none at all, ZERO, NADA.

Not 1 SPR as I said before.... better yet, why not 0 SPR.

 

(I am serious)

We'll need some minimum amount just to protect form potential DoS attack at launch, we don't want someone to try to create millions of masternodes.

... and those millions of masternodes will immediately be shut down (not allowed to continue) by the protocol, because of the 1000 masternodes which have more then zero SPR in them, right?
Aren't all those zero-spr-masternodes going to communicate with the network, recieve the list of the top 1000 masternodes and quietly shut themselves down since they have too few SPR in them?

Where exactly will the Ddosing happen? Constantly asking to send the list of the top 1000 allowed masternodes? Is this transmitted data going to be what bloats/attacks the system?

Mr.Spread plz tell us some minimun requirements for MS now.

[georgem]

if we wanna attract a lot of new people and immediately create a big network of masternodes, why not get rid of any requirement.

I am even thinking about none at all, ZERO, NADA.

Not 1 SPR as I said before.... better yet, why not 0 SPR.

 

(I am serious)

We'll need some minimum amount just to protect form potential DoS attack at launch, we don't want someone to try to create millions of masternodes.

... and those millions of masternodes will immediately be shut down (not allowed to continue) by the protocol, because of the 1000 masternodes which have more then zero SPR in them, right?
Aren't all those zero-spr-masternodes going to communicate with the network, recieve the list of the top 1000 masternodes and quietly shut themselves down since they have too few SPR in them?

Where exactly will the Ddosing happen? Constantly asking to send the list of the top 1000 allowed masternodes? Is this transmitted data going to be what bloats/attacks the system?

Mr.Spread plz tell us some minimun requirements for MS now.

Let's think this thru first, we can't make decisions like that on the fly .

[timedelay]

if we wanna attract a lot of new people and immediately create a big network of masternodes, why not get rid of any requirement.

I am even thinking about none at all, ZERO, NADA.

Not 1 SPR as I said before.... better yet, why not 0 SPR.

 

(I am serious)

We'll need some minimum amount just to protect form potential DoS attack at launch, we don't want someone to try to create millions of masternodes.

... and those millions of masternodes will immediately be shut down (not allowed to continue) by the protocol, because of the 1000 masternodes which have more then zero SPR in them, right?
Aren't all those zero-spr-masternodes going to communicate with the network, recieve the list of the top 1000 masternodes and quietly shut themselves down since they have too few SPR in them?

Where exactly will the Ddosing happen? Constantly asking to send the list of the top 1000 allowed masternodes? Is this transmitted data going to be what bloats/attacks the system?

Mr.Spread plz tell us some minimun requirements for MS now.

Let's think this thru first, we can't make decisions on the fly like that.

I think Mr.Spread can publish some key specs about MN ,then let the community discuss .

[georgem]

I think Mr.Spread can publish some key specs about MN ,then let the community discuss .

Something tells me that those key specs will have to be found out thru testnet observations later this month, when we start the testing.
What importance does it have for you to make Mr.Spread just "guess" this number right now?

[timedelay]

I think Mr.Spread can publish some key specs about MN ,then let the community discuss .

Something tells me that those key specs will have to be found out thru testnet observations later this month, when we start the testing.
What importance does it have for you to make Mr.Spread just "guess" this number right now?

Mkay,I want to cry now,I sold 35K SPR at betashares at extremely low price(hundreds of satoshi to 2000 satoshi).

[Hippie Tech]

Yup.. this has turned into nothing more than DRK crypto-fiat spinoff, minus the insane ninja launch, instamine and reward reductions.

It's not really a spinoff, spreadcoin will recreate masternodes from the ground up, striving for more decentralization and competition.

Lets recreate the nodes instead.

Just as DRK's game changers, these "improvements" are mainly there to benefit the insiders and /or the whales.

Will a truely decentralized crypto plzzzzzzzzzz step forward !

[timedelay]

There are about 7000 SPR below 65K sato at c-cex.

[georgem]

Yup.. this has turned into nothing more than DRK crypto-fiat spinoff, minus the insane ninja launch, instamine and reward reductions.

It's not really a spinoff, spreadcoin will recreate masternodes from the ground up, striving for more decentralization and competition.

Lets recreate the nodes instead.

Just as DRK's game changers, these "improvements" are mainly there to benefit the insiders and /or the whales.

Will a truely decentralized crypto plzzzzzzzzzz step forward !

I am all for that too BTW.

If we could get rid of masternodes and instead improve the wallet itself. Fantastic.

But a server has constant open connections (in/out) with the network and can serve a lot of functions, which a wallet can't do.
What spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

[thelonecrouton]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

[timedelay]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

SPR network is 2 of the most healthy and robust networks(the other one is BTC network) I've ever seen.
just look at how many active connections to SPR network whenever you open your wallet,esp for a coin without any pool node  (which is  a static IP).

[georgem]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

but for example my spread wallet doesn't have the server mode activated. I have always like max 8 connections to the outside world. Most are outgoing, NOT incoming.
So it is not a full node, right?
Or does spreadcoin do that by default?

If I install a spreadcoin daemon on my server it has 100 connections (mostly outgoing connections, since I am serving).... so I see THAT as a full node... right?

[timedelay]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

but for example my spread wallet doesn't have the ports open, and no server mode activated.
So it is not a full node, right?
Or does spreadcoin do that by default?

Every crytpo coin's port is open by default.Otherwise you won't see so  many active connections to SPR network.

[georgem]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

but for example my spread wallet doesn't have the ports open, and no server mode activated.
So it is not a full node, right?
Or does spreadcoin do that by default?

Every crytpo coin's port is open by default.Otherwise you won't see so  many active connections to SPR network.

Sorry, yes I didn't mean to say port open, I meant server mode.
How many max connections, and does it broadcast the blockchain or ONLY downloading it from others.

[Hippie Tech]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

+1

+1000 when the node is mining.

[georgem]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

Every wallet syncs with the rest of the network or it would be useless.

But my question is, how does my wallet help other wallets sync. My understanding has always been that usually you need to do some tweaking in the conf file and your router before your wallet can truly act like a full node with many in/out connections.

Hasn't bitcoin only got something like 10k full nodes worldwide? Maybe I am mixing up things a little bit here.

I experienced the same thing with BitMessage by the way. If I just install it the way it comes, it will not run perfectly, but stay in a kind of semi connected way, allowing for the download of the blockchain and transmitting of my messages, but not really helping at all when it comes to spreading the blockchain to other nodes. Right? It needs router and conf adjustments to be able to do that.

I assume it's the same thing with all blockchain/wallet related software. But it depends what firewall/router configuration you have.

And that's where Masternodes come in which serve as full fledged high powered servers, and not just wallets.

[thelonecrouton]

But what spreadcoin wallet is even installed like a true full node? Has anyone here installed a true FULL NODE on his pc, I doubt it.

All running and synced Spread wallets are full nodes. Just means they each have a complete and up to date blockchain.

Every wallet syncs with the rest of the network or it would be useless.

But my question is, how does my wallet help other wallets sync. My understanding has always been that usually you need to do some tweaking in the conf file and your router before your wallet can truly act like a full node with many in/out connections.

Hasn't bitcoin only got something like 10k full nodes worldwide? Maybe I am mixing up things a little bit here.

I experienced the same thing with BitMessage by the way. If I just install it the way it comes, it will not run perfectly, but stay in a kind of semi connected way, allowing for the download of the blockchain and transmitting of my messages, but not really helping at all when it comes to spreading the blockchain to other nodes. Right? It needs router and conf adjustments to be able to do that.

I assume it's the same thing with all blockchain/wallet related software. But it depends what firewall/router configuration you have.

And that's where Masternodes come in which serve as full fledged high powered servers, and not just wallets.

Unsynced wallets pull the blockchain from synced wallets. Masternodes can speed the process up because they can push out more bandwidth, your VPS instance is generally riding a fatter pipe (particularly upload speed) than a domestic connection. Masternodes don't have any more ports open, they should only have 2, ssh and whatever the default wallet port is, unless the server is being used for something else as well.

server=1 in the conf just tells the wallet whether or not to accept RPC commands.

[defunctec]

Yup.. this has turned into nothing more than DRK crypto-fiat spinoff, minus the insane ninja launch, instamine and reward reductions.

It's not really a spinoff, spreadcoin will recreate masternodes from the ground up, striving for more decentralization and competition.

Lets recreate the nodes instead.

Just as DRK's game changers, these "improvements" are mainly there to benefit the insiders and /or the whales.

Will a truely decentralized crypto plzzzzzzzzzz step forward !

But to have a strong network of MN's we need "whales" to contribute large amount of SPR to MN's.

Whats wrong with one person having 10% of 1000 MN's? This makes it harder for someone to gain majority over the network, keeps the coins off the market and provides a service to everyone.

If you want the capability's of MN's, then we need an incentive for holders to host MN's.

Will this benefit SPR holders? YES! I hope it does, for the sake of the MN network.

[e1ghtSpace]

Will I be able to create my own masternode in my own (dynamic ip) house using no-ip.org? Is there a way to specify the no-ip.org ip as my masternode's ip?

Thanks.

[e1ghtSpace]

Got 2.3MH/s on 280X, and 2.7 on 290X. I think it's likely the speed can double, but it'll take a lot of annoying work.

Screenshot (NSFW): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/spreadwolf-01172015.png

I was thinking "How could this be not safe for work?" while the page was loading.

So you're a furry?

[georgem]

Got 2.3MH/s on 280X, and 2.7 on 290X. I think it's likely the speed can double, but it'll take a lot of annoying work.

Screenshot (NSFW): https://ottrbutt.com/miner/spreadwolf-01172015.png

I was thinking "How could this be not safe for work?" while the page was loading.

So you're a furry?

Yep - kind of surprised you haven't seen one of my screenshots already, if you're a GPU miner.

I remember seeing one of your screenshots half a year ago in the darkcoin thread, haha.
So I knew what to expect.