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[Billyboy402]

i have made a HOW TO movie on youtube ,
Feedback is welcome as it was my first youtube unload and i am still new to burst coin my self

http://youtu.be/oYlf1xFTHvs

Awesome! Name of the music? Please no Darude Sandstorm jokes  

no idea , it came with the software "ezvid" ( first thing i Google) it was fun some thing new for me to try.

[SpeedDemon13]

i have made a HOW TO movie on youtube ,
Feedback is welcome as it was my first youtube unload and i am still new to burst coin my self

http://youtu.be/oYlf1xFTHvs

Awesome! Name of the music? Please no Darude Sandstorm jokes  

Nice that he put out a video, but it would have been better to actually speak out the procedures and tips on setup. Also, it would have better served to just make a passphrase in the text file inside the PoC miner folder oppose to one generated in the browser.

[limey]

For anyone who wants to get into mining seriously - quit thinking about SATA ports and USB enclosures and crap and start thinking real hardware.

http://unixsurplus.com/product/sgi-3u-media-server-storage-16-hd-bay-sas-sata-ssd-san-array-35-nas-jbod-good
less than $200, comes with 16 drive sleds and supports SATA disks.
All you need is a external SAS hba, which runs you less than a hundred bucks on ebay.

People can use eSata with an eSata enclosure with multiple bays for cheaper. Most motherboards have eSata already, plus 8 to 12 Sata ports on board.

That disk enclosure is $135, you find me a 16 bay eSATA enclosure for less than $150 and I'll kiss your ass.
Then you find me a eSATA enclosure that you can connect 18 of to a single server.

Even if you get all that storage going, the time of plotting still would take long. At that rate, I would rather put 10 hdd's in a case, the get another rig plotting also and so fort. Plotting is dependent on cpu thread, memory and the efficiency of the data throughput of the system overall.

This is  where the fun comes in. If there were no plotting , i wonder what will happen to this coin. People can just buy HDD and mine at full speed. Right now , CPU plotting put a nice time gap.

man my first terabyte when i relized how long it was taking..  i was so stressed out looking at the pile of harddrive i had to fill. thats when i turned on every computer in my house and had them all plotting to it and boom like clock work

PoC*

*Burst is proof of HDD capacity, but you'd better have a couple of Xeon's attached to them for the first few days...

[yellowduck2]

For anyone who wants to get into mining seriously - quit thinking about SATA ports and USB enclosures and crap and start thinking real hardware.

http://unixsurplus.com/product/sgi-3u-media-server-storage-16-hd-bay-sas-sata-ssd-san-array-35-nas-jbod-good
less than $200, comes with 16 drive sleds and supports SATA disks.
All you need is a external SAS hba, which runs you less than a hundred bucks on ebay.

People can use eSata with an eSata enclosure with multiple bays for cheaper. Most motherboards have eSata already, plus 8 to 12 Sata ports on board.

That disk enclosure is $135, you find me a 16 bay eSATA enclosure for less than $150 and I'll kiss your ass.
Then you find me a eSATA enclosure that you can connect 18 of to a single server.

Even if you get all that storage going, the time of plotting still would take long. At that rate, I would rather put 10 hdd's in a case, the get another rig plotting also and so fort. Plotting is dependent on cpu thread, memory and the efficiency of the data throughput of the system overall.

This is  where the fun comes in. If there were no plotting , i wonder what will happen to this coin. People can just buy HDD and mine at full speed. Right now , CPU plotting put a nice time gap.

man my first terabyte when i relized how long it was taking..  i was so stressed out looking at the pile of harddrive i had to fill. thats when i turned on every computer in my house and had them all plotting to it and boom like clock work

isnt this great ? If it's just plug and play , this coin will not be what it is today.

[Razerglass]

it makes me more productive! i swear, instead of playing games watching videos or other things i generate plots

[Billyboy402]

i have made a HOW TO movie on youtube ,
Feedback is welcome as it was my first youtube unload and i am still new to burst coin my self

http://youtu.be/oYlf1xFTHvs

Awesome! Name of the music? Please no Darude Sandstorm jokes  

Nice that he put out a video, but it would have been better to actually speak out the procedures and tips on setup. Also, it would have better served to just make a passphrase in the text file inside the PoC miner folder oppose to one generated in the browser.

thanks
I will update it . I have the man flu atm so i will add voice when i get over this dam flu 

i forgot you can add the paraphrase in the folder i will update this later

[paradigmflux]

Looking for miners (ASIC ones especially!)
http://burstmultipool.com!
scrypt: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:3333
sha: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:5555
x11: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:4444
Keccak: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:6666
scrypt-n: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:2222

[SpeedDemon13]

i have made a HOW TO movie on youtube ,
Feedback is welcome as it was my first youtube unload and i am still new to burst coin my self

http://youtu.be/oYlf1xFTHvs

Awesome! Name of the music? Please no Darude Sandstorm jokes  

Nice that he put out a video, but it would have been better to actually speak out the procedures and tips on setup. Also, it would have better served to just make a passphrase in the text file inside the PoC miner folder oppose to one generated in the browser.

thanks
I will update it . I have the man flu atm so i will add voice when i get over this dam flu 

i forgot you can add the paraphrase in the folder i will update this later

It's just my critique, but thanks for contributing to the community...

[bolvan]

1 more question. can i open a few miners if i have several harddisk or partitions? I would just need to copy and paste the poc_miner to each drive right?

For 4TB harddisk (3.63TB real space), are my arguments optimum?  0 - 14,400,000. From the guide it says 200GB for 800k

C:\Windows\SysWOW64\java -Xmx1000m -cp pocminer.jar;lib/*;lib/akka/*;lib/jetty/* pocminer.POCMiner generate 460635828253812312 0 14400000 1000 4

Right. Its the only way to mine right now on Windows.
One miner per drive/partition

Not exactly. NTFS supports links like unix filesystems.
See mklink.exe command.
Its possible to gather files from 1000 partitions to one directory

[AnonymousEconomist]

Looking for miners (ASIC ones especially!)
http://burstmultipool.com!
scrypt: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:3333
sha: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:5555
x11: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:4444
Keccak: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:6666
scrypt-n: stratum+tcp://pool.burstmultipool.com:2222

Well done! Everyone hop on the multi pool!!!

[Amph]

i'm still stuck on this "ram sucking" issue, i tried to disable superfetch, but still nothing

[taaku]

do i have to generate the plot in one go...can i generate 10 plots of 100 GB instead of single 1 Tb ..because it takes lot of time to generate a single one and if something happens in between and it closes..all time is wasted..

[tex81]

We need PROP pool with deadline 100k-200k.

[smokim87]

do i have to generate the plot in one go...can i generate 10 plots of 100 GB instead of single 1 Tb ..because it takes lot of time to generate a single one and if something happens in between and it closes..all time is wasted..

I think I read in the readme file included in the miner, the bigger the plot the less stress when mining starts but I think you can plot 100GB at a time just need to set your nonce after every plot is done.

So first plot 0 400,000
    Second plot: 400,000 800,000
    Third plot:    800,000 1,200,000

and so on. 800,000=200GB.

[twig123]

About how long does it take to generate plots?

40..60Gb/hr on a windows box

Any faster on linux?

~2x

Linux rules 

OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately

[mark.ti]

it makes me more productive! i swear, instead of playing games watching videos or other things i generate plots

What kind of main processor do you have? How many nonces did you get per minute?

[zheratuul]

About how long does it take to generate plots?

40..60Gb/hr on a windows box

Any faster on linux?

~2x

Linux rules 

OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately

What is your cpu and ram?

[yellowduck2]

About how long does it take to generate plots?

40..60Gb/hr on a windows box

Any faster on linux?

~2x

Linux rules 

OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately

Cool Story Bro. 

[twig123]

do i have to generate the plot in one go...can i generate 10 plots of 100 GB instead of single 1 Tb ..because it takes lot of time to generate a single one and if something happens in between and it closes..all time is wasted..

I think I read in the readme file included in the miner, the bigger the plot the less stress when mining starts but I think you can plot 100GB at a time just need to set your nonce after every plot is done.

So first plot 0 400,000
    Second plot: 400,000 800,000
    Third plot:    800,000 1,200,000

and so on. 800,000=200GB.

You plot numbers would actually be this:
{WalletNumber} 0 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 400000 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 800000 400000 {stagger} {cores}
{WalletNumber} 1200000 400000 {stagger} {cores}

ex:
Plot1: 11111222223333344444 0 400000 5000
Plot2: 11111222223333344444 400000 400000 5000
Plot3: 11111222223333344444 800000 400000 5000
Plot4: 11111222223333344444 1200000 400000 5000
Plot5: 11111222223333344444 1600000 400000 5000
...and so on (Each of the above plots is ~100GB)

[twig123]

About how long does it take to generate plots?

40..60Gb/hr on a windows box

Any faster on linux?

~2x

Linux rules 

OMG, I just had THE worst time with linux because of the prospect of plotting ~2x faster.

So, here's how it went:
Was plotting around 3200 nonces/minute on Windows 7 (4 cores)
Decided to try my hand at Ubuntu...
Downloaded an image, burned it, booted it, installed it to a spare drive
Got Java installed and was feeling very accomplished...

Tried to figured out how to use dcct's plot generator (which failed miserably).
Posts in the forum stated that you need to "make" the plot app...
Much Googling led me to needing additional build tools needing to be installed to be able to "make" the program, which I don't see mentioned anywhere (sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc).
Made the app by doing a CD to the location of dcct's plot generator I downloaded, then issued the "make" command...
...and I get a wall of error text spitting out.
Much more Googling, led me to issue a "uname -a" command only to find out that my build was "i686" (which is apparently 32-bit only) instead of the required x86_64 (which is 64-bit).
*sigh*
all that time wasted...

Downloaded a new Ubuntu image, this time I made sure it was 64bit
Booted the new image and go to install, but something is strange...
The license agreement was missing data, Mouse would randomly stop working and I had ZERO network connectivity
{Completely baffled why the 32bit Ubuntu had no issues, but 64bit is FUBARd}
*Much more Googling ensues*
Tried a bunch of suggested things for networking, tried a wifi dongle... even manual settings. zero connectivity.
*MUCH Much more Googling ensues*
Found a post stating that "IOMMU" (whatever the heck that is) likely needs to be enabled in BIOS.
Found & enabled "IOMMU" in my BIOS
HOLY COW! The 64bit version now has NO ISSUES! Amazing!
{Now feeling super duper accomplished!}

I repeat all the original steps (installing java, build tools, etc)
I go to "make" dcct's plot generator again, and it fails... *sigh*
*more Googling reveals that it's because the secodary drive (my plot drive) is in read only mode
{WTF?! why would I NOT want to write to it?!}
*Googling is getting REALLY old at this point*
Finally found information on how to remount the drive as writable...
"make" the plot generator (and it finally worked this time!)
issued the commands to start plot generation....
and it is now plotting!!!!
{Much excitement!}
.......... SLOWER THAN WINDOWS! (@ 2400 nonces/minute)
*sigh*

TL;DR - Wasted the better part of an entire day trying to get "~2x faster plotting" working by using Linux instead of Windows. Ended up being much more work than it was worth, because the Linux install is plotting SLOWER than Windows.
Windows: ~3200 nonces/minute (4 cores)
Linux: ~2400 nonces/minute (4 cores)

It's your opinion that Linux rules, but that has not been my experience lately

What is your cpu and ram?

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Quad-Core 3.4GHz and 4GB RAM

I also tried on an old server board I had laying around with 8 cores (2 CPUs, both Quad-Core Xeons @ 1.6Ghz) and that is only slightly faster than the above system at ~3500 nonces/minute