[SDC] ShadowCash | Welcome to the UMBRA

[erok]

LOL so the only way to anonymize your coins for dark is broken? WOW
edit: only reason why i bought these coins was to use darksend.... epic fail

Considering a lot of attention has been on rebuilding the coin on the new 0.9.3 bitcoin codebase and the fix has already been merged into it, I'd say it isn't the end of the world. Shouldn't be a shocker that things get broken at times (not saying it's fine or ideal, but it can, and does, happen). I'm actually surprised the fix itself hasn't been merged into master but at the same time I'm sure the reason is a full push to the new tree sooner rather than later (then instantx testing on testnet).

Since this is the SDC thread, I wish to respect that and end the discussion on another coin as is. You are more than welcome to continue this discussion in our thread if you like.

[Minotaur26]

LOL so the only way to anonymize your coins for dark is broken? WOW
edit: only reason why i bought these coins was to use darksend.... epic fail

This is a very superficial comment, Darksend is a very serious project in constant evolution. We've had several versions and each improves over the previous one, when a bug is found it is openly posted to Jira and you can track it on Github too. If you think there will never be any issues with your implementation you are delusional.  We've been able to add 3 additional first class programmers including Pratrick Mchardy of linux core netfilter fame. Right now, they are working on hardening and refinement of the code.

I wish you the best of luck with your project, I personally don't like proof of stake, but the notion that there will be a "winner", is silly.  If a coin wants to be succesful the developers and community need to develop an economy around it, if you think you will just hold your stash and sell  later on at a much higher price just because your devs are releasing something you are up for a rude awakening.

Darkcoin is somewhat successful because there is an extended development team that goes way beyond coders and also a foundation that promotes it. So lets see where we all are in 6 months. In my opinion the biggest hurdle Proof of Stake coins with a short Proof of Work phase will face is lack of coin distribution and thus a small unattractive market but I guess time will tell.

[Propulsion]

So... this isn't the Darkcoin thread why's everyone talking about it?


Back to SDC.

QT does not compile whatsoever on Linux. I've switched branches from master to anon --both don't compile-- I've checked out tags, yet everything is a no go. I can however compile the daemon just fine.

Any advice?

Here's my output just from doing only qmake:
Note: Same on both master branch & anon branch.

WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadow.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.h
WARNING: Failure to find: shadow.qrc
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/rcc: File does not exist 'shadow.qrc'

[dasource]

So... this isn't the Darkcoin thread why's everyone talking about it?


Back to SDC.

QT does not compile whatsoever on Linux. I've switched branches from master to anon --both don't compile-- I've checked out tags, yet everything is a no go. I can however compile the daemon just fine.

Any advice?

Here's my output just from doing only qmake:
Note: Same on both master branch & anon branch.

WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadow.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.h
WARNING: Failure to find: shadow.qrc
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/rcc: File does not exist 'shadow.qrc'

Hmm, I compiled QT from source on linux this morning without any issues.
IIRC you need QT5 and not QT4

[Propulsion]

So... this isn't the Darkcoin thread why's everyone talking about it?


Back to SDC.

QT does not compile whatsoever on Linux. I've switched branches from master to anon --both don't compile-- I've checked out tags, yet everything is a no go. I can however compile the daemon just fine.

Any advice?

Here's my output just from doing only qmake:
Note: Same on both master branch & anon branch.

WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadow.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.h
WARNING: Failure to find: shadow.qrc
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/rcc: File does not exist 'shadow.qrc'

Hmm, I compiled QT from source on linux this morning without any issues.
IIRC you need QT5 and not QT4

Which branch did you compile or did you do it by tag?

Edit: Removed qt4 and installed qt5. I no longer have qmake errors but instead error out while compiling.

src/qt/qrcodedialog.cpp:12:22: fatal error: qrencode.h: No such file or directory
 #include <qrencode.h>
                      ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [build/qrcodedialog.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
src/ringsig.cpp:20:12: warning: ‘int printPoint(EC_POINT*, const char*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
 static int printPoint(EC_POINT *P, const char *pref)
            ^
src/ringsig.cpp:42:12: warning: ‘int printBN(BIGNUM*, const char*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
 static int printBN(BIGNUM* bn, const char *pref)
            ^

The above was done using the master branch.

When using the anon branch I receive this:

Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: webkitwidgets
make: *** [Makefile] Error 3

[LongAndShort]

So... this isn't the Darkcoin thread why's everyone talking about it?


Back to SDC.

QT does not compile whatsoever on Linux. I've switched branches from master to anon --both don't compile-- I've checked out tags, yet everything is a no go. I can however compile the daemon just fine.

Any advice?

Here's my output just from doing only qmake:
Note: Same on both master branch & anon branch.

WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadow.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.cpp
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowgui.h
WARNING: Failure to find: src/qt/shadowbridge.h
WARNING: Failure to find: shadow.qrc
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt4/bin/rcc: File does not exist 'shadow.qrc'

Hmm, I compiled QT from source on linux this morning without any issues.
IIRC you need QT5 and not QT4

Which branch did you compile or did you do it by tag?

Edit: Removed qt4 and installed qt5. I no longer have qmake errors but instead error out while compiling.

src/qt/qrcodedialog.cpp:12:22: fatal error: qrencode.h: No such file or directory
 #include <qrencode.h>
                      ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [build/qrcodedialog.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
src/ringsig.cpp:20:12: warning: ‘int printPoint(EC_POINT*, const char*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
 static int printPoint(EC_POINT *P, const char *pref)
            ^
src/ringsig.cpp:42:12: warning: ‘int printBN(BIGNUM*, const char*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
 static int printBN(BIGNUM* bn, const char *pref)
            ^

The above was done using the master branch.

When using the anon branch I receive this:

Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: webkitwidgets
make: *** [Makefile] Error 3

Are you reading any of the docs?

[Propulsion]

Are you reading any of the docs?

The QT wallet compiled fine before the latest mandatory update.

[LongAndShort]

Are you reading any of the docs?

The QT wallet compiled fine before the latest mandatory update.

First, make sure that the required packages for Qt5 development of your distribution are installed, for Debian and Ubuntu these are:

Code:

apt-get install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools qttools5-dev-tools \
    build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \
    libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \
    libssl-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev

then execute the following:

Code:

qmake
make

Alternatively, install Qt Creator and open the shadow.pro file.

An executable named shadow will be built.

[Propulsion]

Are you reading any of the docs?

The QT wallet compiled fine before the latest mandatory update.

First, make sure that the required packages for Qt5 development of your distribution are installed, for Debian and Ubuntu these are:

Code:

apt-get install qt5-default qt5-qmake qtbase5-dev-tools qttools5-dev-tools \
    build-essential libboost-dev libboost-system-dev \
    libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-thread-dev \
    libssl-dev libdb++-dev libminiupnpc-dev

then execute the following:

Code:

qmake
make

Alternatively, install Qt Creator and open the shadow.pro file.

An executable named shadow will be built.

Have them all. I'll try QT Creator now.

EDIT: Tried QT Creator still same error. The source seems to be missing a file.

/home/propulsion/Downloads/shadowcoin/src/qt/qrcodedialog.cpp:12: error: qrencode.h: No such file or directory
 #include <qrencode.h>
                      ^

Edit (again): I was missing a dependency libqrencode-dev

I'm now able to compile the latest master branch with version 1.3.0.7.

So in summary:

It seems like the new wallet can no longer be compiled with qt4. Also in doc/makefile.unix it list's an optional dependency as libqrencode. That is now mandatory and also named libqrencode-dev.

[dasource]

<snip>
I'm now able to compile the latest master branch with version 1.3.0.7.

Glad it all worked out

[popolite11]

Yes as now it has been mandatory , this is the time to update.

[Coolstoryteller]

Hey Smooth, welcome! Have you had a chance to use the new protocol?

No, I just read the white paper.

Smooth: PM me with your SDC addy and I'll send you some.

Please everyone: the anon vertical isn't a hockey match, we're all fighting towards the same goal of financial privacy; that doesn't mean we should be fighting amongst each other. Please keep the discussion technical there's no room here for bashing developer efforts.. Smooth has came in here and praised our work; there's no reason to be confrontational towards him i.e. telling him "to leave the thread" and so forth.

One of the strengths SDC has moving forward as a new contender for a top spot in the anon vertical is that the SDC codebase is much more mature than cryptonote-based coins, since there has been much more contribution made towards the Bitcoin codebase. There's also been years of commerce to test it's security. That's not to say in the future Cryptonote-coins won't catch up, but things like mobile applications and friendly UIs is something that helps put Shadow in the forefront.

Although Bytecoin was out way before Darkcoin, the latter has the first mover advantage over every coin project in the anon vertical; However, superior technology can alter landscape.

Shadow's main weakness at the moment is recognition from the media and from the general crypto community.. but I have a strong feeling that will be changing very soon. Traction comes with time and we have plenty of that.

In the future, our team will be focused on further improving upon an already amazing innovation, so we can all look forward to that. Right now we have the best anon solution on the market coupled with a proven platform and a wide array of features some of which have a viable market value to multiple billion dollar industries. I would implore any new investors to really dig into our project and see what it is about. We've made many "firsts" for crypto and we'll continue to do so. Our team is dedicated to the project, so get involved and join in on the journey - it's going to be an amazing ride

I should hopefully have the new website up later today. I'm looking forward to getting everyone's feedback there.

That said, I wish everyone happy holidays. Enjoy your time with your families (remember to tell them about SDC) and wish you all the best in 2015.

[smooth]

One of the strengths SDC has moving forward as a new contender for a top spot in the anon vertical is that the codebase is much more mature than cryptonote-based coins, since there has been much more contribution made towards the Bitcoin codebase and as result the SDC codebase. There's also been years of commerce to test it's security. That's not to say in the future Cryptonote-coins won't catch up, but things like mobile applications and friendly UIs is something that helps put Shadow in the forefront.

You can't really have it both ways. If the anon stuff has been implemented from scratch, and if major improvements have been made to the Bitcoin code, then it isn't mature code. Yes part of the code is more mature than other anon coins, but likewise part of the code is less mature. 

Although it seems from the conversation a few posts back that the anon part of DRK also isn't that mature, and likewise for cryptonote coins. They are certainly more mature than they were when first released in March, but the most recent major issue was discovered in early September, which wasn't really that long ago. There have been growing pains.

[Alty]

Raw demo footage captured in real time and edited down to avoid unnecessary waiting during confirmations.

Two separate wallets (sender and receiver) were used, one situated on a VM.

Demo 1:

SDC to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!nZswkS5I!DsLHJaC5qQK4wYFeGSmpFE6wtC9GmLPshg2YH6RfL3U

TX : http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/df3e58111719430e2864d4e3e10600610a8e9c17ffe7fc14da038db0a044436e

Demo 2:

Shadow to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!3Y8xlRib!QDteB85Dxk1XiQ47esEXlK3MyYGgcOQDTzAtM3yun7o

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/f486a768b2082c5c6d733c8203ef037532c1c94994f2af46db4911d6b8d4e3c2

Demo 3:

Shadow to SDC

https://mega.co.nz/#!TdVkjADT!lMZgQPl89T8NW1T12a7CRHZNbn88-RqqnXhTuj9YSQM

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/fa64b0f13a594b56e9ab0a606f2142aa79689f045b646f9448424d8e02fe17bf

[merkalor]

I don't see Bytecoin like a scam but a test

Well, you have know the history of how it was claimed to be launched two years earlier, which was simply a lie, and many of the premined coins were being dumped on unsuspecting buyers. That makes a fraud and a scam.

But ultimately you are right, it was essentially the testnet for Monero, and that's how any project run by non-scammers would have done it.

(sorry for the off topic discussion guys -- let's get back to the correct topic shall we?)

I missed this part
It's a fucking scam!
Btw nobody know who and where is Cryptonote creator? why he's not help to improve the cryptonote tech, it should be easy for him

[xxxgoodgirls]

Raw demo footage captured in real time and edited down to avoid unnecessary waiting during confirmations.

Two separate wallets (sender and receiver) were used, one situated on a VM.

Demo 1:

SDC to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!nZswkS5I!DsLHJaC5qQK4wYFeGSmpFE6wtC9GmLPshg2YH6RfL3U

TX : http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/df3e58111719430e2864d4e3e10600610a8e9c17ffe7fc14da038db0a044436e

Demo 2:

Shadow to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!3Y8xlRib!QDteB85Dxk1XiQ47esEXlK3MyYGgcOQDTzAtM3yun7o

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/f486a768b2082c5c6d733c8203ef037532c1c94994f2af46db4911d6b8d4e3c2

Demo 3:

Shadow to SDC

https://mega.co.nz/#!TdVkjADT!lMZgQPl89T8NW1T12a7CRHZNbn88-RqqnXhTuj9YSQM

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/fa64b0f13a594b56e9ab0a606f2142aa79689f045b646f9448424d8e02fe17bf

Is Alty being part of the SDC team?
He is such a big threat for the crypto community.
He fucked several crypto investors with his big scam Cloakcoin.
Hype, empty promises, broken incomplete code, insider trading and then disapperead.

[pookielax31]

Raw demo footage captured in real time and edited down to avoid unnecessary waiting during confirmations.

Two separate wallets (sender and receiver) were used, one situated on a VM.

Demo 1:

SDC to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!nZswkS5I!DsLHJaC5qQK4wYFeGSmpFE6wtC9GmLPshg2YH6RfL3U

TX : http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/df3e58111719430e2864d4e3e10600610a8e9c17ffe7fc14da038db0a044436e

Demo 2:

Shadow to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!3Y8xlRib!QDteB85Dxk1XiQ47esEXlK3MyYGgcOQDTzAtM3yun7o

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/f486a768b2082c5c6d733c8203ef037532c1c94994f2af46db4911d6b8d4e3c2

Demo 3:

Shadow to SDC

https://mega.co.nz/#!TdVkjADT!lMZgQPl89T8NW1T12a7CRHZNbn88-RqqnXhTuj9YSQM

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/fa64b0f13a594b56e9ab0a606f2142aa79689f045b646f9448424d8e02fe17bf

Is Alty being part of the SDC team?
He is such a big threat for the crypto community.
He fucked several crypto investors with his big scam Cloakcoin.
Hype, empty promises, broken incomplete code, insider trading and then disapperead.

no one ever said he was part of the sdc team.. and just because some1 comes poking his head around here as an investor Doesnt mean that he is on the SDC team

[ozkraut]

Raw demo footage captured in real time and edited down to avoid unnecessary waiting during confirmations.

Two separate wallets (sender and receiver) were used, one situated on a VM.

Demo 1:

SDC to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!nZswkS5I!DsLHJaC5qQK4wYFeGSmpFE6wtC9GmLPshg2YH6RfL3U

TX : http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/df3e58111719430e2864d4e3e10600610a8e9c17ffe7fc14da038db0a044436e

Demo 2:

Shadow to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!3Y8xlRib!QDteB85Dxk1XiQ47esEXlK3MyYGgcOQDTzAtM3yun7o

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/f486a768b2082c5c6d733c8203ef037532c1c94994f2af46db4911d6b8d4e3c2

Demo 3:

Shadow to SDC

https://mega.co.nz/#!TdVkjADT!lMZgQPl89T8NW1T12a7CRHZNbn88-RqqnXhTuj9YSQM

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/fa64b0f13a594b56e9ab0a606f2142aa79689f045b646f9448424d8e02fe17bf

Is Alty being part of the SDC team?
He is such a big threat for the crypto community.
He fucked several crypto investors with his big scam Cloakcoin.
Hype, empty promises, broken incomplete code, insider trading and then disapperead.

no one ever said he was part of the sdc team.. and just because some1 comes poking his head around here as an investor Doesnt mean that he is on the SDC team

and as to the videos: Produced for bounty. I was in IRC when the bounty was offered and accepted by Alty. Eg could have been anyone putting their hand up first

[Coolstoryteller]

Raw demo footage captured in real time and edited down to avoid unnecessary waiting during confirmations.

Two separate wallets (sender and receiver) were used, one situated on a VM.

Demo 1:

SDC to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!nZswkS5I!DsLHJaC5qQK4wYFeGSmpFE6wtC9GmLPshg2YH6RfL3U

TX : http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/df3e58111719430e2864d4e3e10600610a8e9c17ffe7fc14da038db0a044436e

Demo 2:

Shadow to Shadow

https://mega.co.nz/#!3Y8xlRib!QDteB85Dxk1XiQ47esEXlK3MyYGgcOQDTzAtM3yun7o

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/f486a768b2082c5c6d733c8203ef037532c1c94994f2af46db4911d6b8d4e3c2

Demo 3:

Shadow to SDC

https://mega.co.nz/#!TdVkjADT!lMZgQPl89T8NW1T12a7CRHZNbn88-RqqnXhTuj9YSQM

TX: http://shadow.blockexplorer.cc/tx/fa64b0f13a594b56e9ab0a606f2142aa79689f045b646f9448424d8e02fe17bf

Is Alty being part of the SDC team?
He is such a big threat for the crypto community.
He fucked several crypto investors with his big scam Cloakcoin.
Hype, empty promises, broken incomplete code, insider trading and then disapperead.

Before you speak of Alty being a threat to SDC you should take note that Alty has donated to our lead designer CRZ, that's more than can be said of you contributing to the project. Another contribution is the bounty he put up for the demo videos.. I for one am happy that more people (not just including Alty) are stepping up and contributing. It's simple. If you aren't contributing and you don't have anything nice to say - then don't say anything.

Big shoutouts:

Jimmies for pimping the hell out the slideshow presentation (should be uploaded tomorrow)
Dasource for setting up another faucet + building more features into it  
Alty for contributing the demo video bounty and donations to Crz.
DFG for donating to Crz and organizing the SDC explainer video
SebSeb for busting ass all across the board
Longandshort for handling the Shadow wiki/faucets and being longandshort

[Automatic Monkey]

Quick shadow question: How do you convert your Shadow to SDC in your wallet? I can't find a button for that.