[SDC] ShadowCash | Welcome to the UMBRA

[skip60]

..............most alts our price is almost completely based on speculation at the moment.

...............Shadow's already delivered the technology with the ShadowSend v2 release. That's the bit that puzzles me.

Like i said before; just good tech is not enough in altcoin market. For sure, we need a trading group.

Awareness is the biggest problem we face.

People mostly learn about new altcoins by checking the max volume/ max price increase at bittrex.

That is how people first learn about the altcoin, then they read and learn about the coin, some of them become long term investors, others leave after a time

When i look at the volüme and price of sdc, there is nothing attractive for newcomers

I believe that big holders of SDC should come together and form a trading group...that group should buy sdc when there is sell pressure in the market and sell sdc when there is high demand...create volüme etc.

[child_harold]

This isn't DarkCoin

[Automatic Monkey]

..............most alts our price is almost completely based on speculation at the moment.

...............Shadow's already delivered the technology with the ShadowSend v2 release. That's the bit that puzzles me.

Like i said before; just good tech is not enough in altcoin market. For sure, we need a trading group.

Awareness is the biggest problem we face.

People mostly learn about new altcoins by checking the max volume/ max price increase at bittrex.

That is how people first learn about the altcoin, then they read and learn about the coin, some of them become long term investors, others leave after a time

When i look at the volüme and price of sdc, there is nothing attractive for newcomers

I believe that big holders of SDC should come together and form a trading group...that group should buy sdc when there is sell pressure in the market and sell sdc when there is high demand...create volüme etc.

Why do you need a group to do that? Isn't that normal market behavior? Even a monkey knows how to buy low and sell high!

Once there is something to buy with the coin, plenty of people will come around looking to obtain the coin. There are no shortcuts.

[skip60]

Why do you need a group to do that? Isn't that normal market behavior? Even a monkey knows how to buy low and sell high!

by the way, are you one of the main sdc holder??? i dont think so

have you ever heard about market maker??? there is market maker in real stock markets......if you want to use sdc as a digital currency, you have to stabilize the value of sdc

[child_harold]

if you want to use sdc as a fiat

Fiat money is currency which derives its value from government regulation or law.
Id rather use shadow as an anonymous digital currency.

Regarding "market makers" and "trading groups" I refer to my previous reply.

And yes… I agree the current price totally sucks balls.
I don't believe this will remain the case for much longer…

p.s. good to have u back

[skip60]

if you want to use sdc as a fiat

Fiat money is currency which derives its value from government regulation or law.
Id rather use shadow as an anonymous digital currency.

Regarding "market makers" and "trading groups" I refer to my previous reply.

And yes… I agree the current price totally sucks balls.
I don't believe this will remain the case for much longer…

p.s. good to have u back

i agree, i corrected it as "digital currency"

it is good to see that you are still here

up to now, before every release; we expected a permenant price increase but i it never happened...it means there is something wrong or something we should improve

but that something is nothing to do with development...it is about PR and market volüme/price

[child_harold]

if you want to use sdc as a fiat

Fiat money is currency which derives its value from government regulation or law.
Id rather use shadow as an anonymous digital currency.

Regarding "market makers" and "trading groups" I refer to my previous reply.

And yes… I agree the current price totally sucks balls.
I don't believe this will remain the case for much longer…

p.s. good to have u back

i agree, i corrected it as "digital currency"

it is good to see that you are still here

up to now, before every release; we expected a permenant price increase but i it never happened...it means there is something wrong or something we should improve

but that something is nothing to do with development...it is about PR and market volüme/price

PR & Marketing needed. Agreed.

[Bavaria]

Navajo coin and VericCoin are booming.

ShadowCash community is very well known for their FUD campaigns. Why don`t you go and FUD these 2 prosperous coins? 

[child_harold]

Why don`t you go and FUD these 2 prosperous coins?  

offer declined.

[idosedthekoolaid]

Navajo coin and VericCoin are booming.

ShadowCash community is very well known for their FUD campaigns. Why don`t you go and FUD these 2 prosperous coins?  

O RLY? Because i've barely heard a whisper about SDC that I didn't go try and dig up myself. Nor have I seen anyone I can identify as affiliated with SDC flinging FUD or mud. Methinks that possibly SDC's issue is actually 'marketing'.

The wallet works well and is easy to use and understand from the get-go. The android client IMO could use some work but seems functional, just a little clunky. Looking forward to the marketplace; several coins have similar aspirations and none seem well-implemented, the first to do this in a way that attracts more than the dangerously curious to hawk goods may blow up overnight.

Blackcoin has a nice looking product in BlackHalo/BitHalo, but from what I can tell it's a ghost town. Seems like we have the hammer maybe, just no nails or projects to use it in.

Truthfully, the SDC I do have I was discussing dumping the other day, but a careful "I'm not sure what I think about SDC...it does seem pretty stable albeit undervalued" forced me to reconsider. Now, I may buy more instead. I'm definitely not coming off of it.

This is another one of those (IMO) quite possibly very undervalued coins into which someone has channeled a great deal of work. Honestly it is a plus in my eyes that their PR seems to be a lower priority than other things (you know, like ANONYMITY and FUNCTIONALITY and USEABILITY). Fuck getting all hyped up, watching a pump, selling, and pocketing a small profit as the air is let out of the balloon; I want secure, private means of transferring value, and the more stable that value can be, the better.

DOGEcoinDARK is doing the same thing, from a completely different angle with another set of tools and it's drawn a naysaying lot as well, chuffing and scoffing at the very idea of the thing, belittling the 4 satoshi price (nevermind that that is 4 times what its value was a couple weeks ago). That coin I was also going to dump off but popped into its IRC room on freenode and fell in love with the good people I met there, a group of likeminded, lighthearted souls, not a bunch of scammers or wannabe BAWSE HOGG day-traders looking to spread hype and FUD and profit from the resulting confusion.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, and I'll keep on staking!

<3

P.S. Becoming popular does not a "sell-out" make, but being understated...

...that's downright *sexy*.

PLUR

[microchoveur]

We definetely need more marketing, we really do.

Has anyone any idea how to show the power of Shadow to everyone ?.

[Automatic Monkey]

Why do you need a group to do that? Isn't that normal market behavior? Even a monkey knows how to buy low and sell high!

by the way, are you one of the main sdc holder??? i dont think so

have you ever heard about market maker??? there is market maker in real stock markets......if you want to use sdc as a digital currency, you have to stabilize the value of sdc

That's silly. The way currencies are stabilized is by having goods that have a real and somewhat constant value to people priced in them. A market maker just facilitates trading on a particular market, they don't control the price, and if they tried to they would lose everything.

No I'm not one of the huge holders, but I have a moderate stake (in a couple of addresses) that I expect to be worth between 1 and 10 million USD in a few years.

[child_harold]

^which explains the addy 

how long did it take to get that Automatic Monkey?

[skip60]

Why do you need a group to do that? Isn't that normal market behavior? Even a monkey knows how to buy low and sell high!

by the way, are you one of the main sdc holder??? i dont think so

have you ever heard about market maker??? there is market maker in real stock markets......if you want to use sdc as a digital currency, you have to stabilize the value of sdc

That's silly. The way currencies are stabilized is by having goods that have a real and somewhat constant value to people priced in them. A market maker just facilitates trading on a particular market, they don't control the price, and if they tried to they would lose everything.

No I'm not one of the huge holders, but I have a moderate stake (in a couple of addresses) that I expect to be worth between 1 and 10 million USD in a few years.

hehe, so in a couple of years; shadow will make everyone here dollar millionaire

better i buy more sdc with my mom's credit card

so all smarties are here, at shadow

i have sdc also, but better we have our feet on the ground

we couldnt even went above all time high after anon release, we need pr and market volume / traders

[erok]

Why do you need a group to do that? Isn't that normal market behavior? Even a monkey knows how to buy low and sell high!

by the way, are you one of the main sdc holder??? i dont think so

have you ever heard about market maker??? there is market maker in real stock markets......if you want to use sdc as a digital currency, you have to stabilize the value of sdc

That's silly. The way currencies are stabilized is by having goods that have a real and somewhat constant value to people priced in them. A market maker just facilitates trading on a particular market, they don't control the price, and if they tried to they would lose everything.

No I'm not one of the huge holders, but I have a moderate stake (in a couple of addresses) that I expect to be worth between 1 and 10 million USD in a few years.

hehe, so in a couple of years; shadow will make everyone here dollar millionaire

better i buy more sdc with my mom's credit card

so all smarties are here, at shadow

i have sdc also, but better we have our feet on the ground

we couldnt even went above all time high after anon release, we need pr and market volume / traders

Blah just wait till the marketplace drops. People will be scrambling for the only true anon.

[LiteBit]

^which explains the addy 

how long did it take to get that Automatic Monkey?

I'm assuming he used vanitygen... so about 10 sec or less 

[Automatic Monkey]

^which explains the addy 

how long did it take to get that Automatic Monkey?

It was there as soon as I generated an address. What a brilliant coin, that recognizes the true nature of its users and assigns an appropriate wallet address!

No seriously, about a week on a CPU.

[LiteBit]

^which explains the addy  

how long did it take to get that Automatic Monkey?

It was there as soon as I generated an address. What a brilliant coin, that recognizes the true nature of its users and assigns an appropriate wallet address!

No seriously, about a week on a CPU.

Here's a read for anyone slow at work today
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/rebranding-and-scalability.4254/

..... especially the part where Darkcoin is considering a name change to DASH... because it's short for "digital cash".  BRILLIANT!

[child_harold]

To really ram home the importance of the above I urge you to watch this short presentation from Gavin Andresen, 2015

Gavin… take it away!

CHECK THIS OUT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3INbCnEfZq4

Does Gavin Andresen know the Shadow Team have a working (and stable ) NIZKPs implementation on a BTC blockchain??
You'll note his slide says "possibly practical"
Please could somebody give him a poke


p.s. and we already got a smurf too lol

[child_harold]

Rambo is no longer in the jungle