[SDC] ShadowCash | Welcome to the UMBRA

[Automatic Monkey]

Tech question about the function of the wallet, switching from Scrypt to SHA-256, for anyone who knows the answer.

What's going on during this block minting? Are the wallets actually hashing, as if we were mining from the wallet? And if so, what would make SHA better than Scrypt, but not better than all the other hashing options, Skein, Qubit, etc?

Sha would be the most efficient, less memory hungry, algorithm. Scrypt et al came to fight asics by using more memory and using algorithm s which can't be easily ported to parallel computation. Makes perfect sense as we are not pow anymore and don't need to hedge against massive computing power getting close to a 51% attack. Good call IMHO. Will make the wallet snappier for sure. Devs are thinking well. Very well...(;-)

OK, I was under the impression that some of the newer hashing algorithms were even more efficient.

Now let's say the wallets are hashing, are they hashing in proportion to the number of mature coins in the wallet, and that's what gives you your PoS? And let's say I have a bunch of wallets open on a machine, all with a large stake. Would it be possible for the wallets to require more hash than the CPU can provide, and I would lose stake?

That is an interesting question. Not sure if stake network weight results in more 'mining slots' which could be bottlenecked by a CPU.the code should reveal that or..buy a few hundred k SDC and try. Might even be able to point wallet calc to cheap and plentiful early generation sha asic.

Sure, that would be a great use of a little USB miner. Eventually motherboards might even come with an ASIC chip on them, to deal with hashing so the CPU doesn't have to.

[Gibbs187x]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

[erok]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

[Gibbs187x]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

yea same here im about to buy a couple k soon

[erok]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

yea same here im about to buy a couple k soon

Hey I am not complaining about 1 sdc per day. That is 365 per year that I didn't have before. I think I, also, will be picking up a couple thousand more just to get things into a different gear.

[Gibbs187x]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

yea same here im about to buy a couple k soon

Hey I am not complaining about 1 sdc per day. That is 365 per year that I didn't have before. I think I, also, will be picking up a couple thousand more just to get things into a different gear.

dam wish i had 4 BTC for this looks like i will soon! hopefully just had a new baby girl and can only have such a budget you know?

[ffmad]

thanks to MedUSA, who made this FANTASTIC signature ! He didn't had time to post for contest, so he gave it afterwards
(you can see a good version of it as my signature)

I invite you to send him some SDCs to his address :

You can send ShadowCash here:
SQPqxSjD9tdHbkXopS8QeptyLQbvmWX9D8

Thank you very much!
medUSA

.   True Anonymous Platform  Encrypted Messaging ✔ Financial Anonymity ✔

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[Automatic Monkey]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

I've got 16K. 2% is a little less than 1 SDC per day. But there are fees added into that.

Just remember you don't really make any money on the 2% PoS. That's inflation not interest because everyone gets it. Well, almost everyone, Shadow tokens don't get it, and I don't know if it makes a difference if the wallet is open or closed.

[robboman]

Hello everybody,

It’s good to see you all so actively supporting Shadow and staying positive as we work towards the release of our decentralized market. As some of you may have noticed, we’ve been a bit quiet on these forums lately when it comes to actively reaching out to all of you with development updates. This doesn’t mean we’ve been sitting still though, because we have a fun week ahead of us. We'll come back to that later.

First of all we are very happy to announce that both Tecnovert and I will be working full-time on Shadow from now on! We're setting our main jobs aside for the upcoming months so that we can really focus on the job at hand. This will obviously result in quicker progress when it comes to releasing new features. Going forward we are also going to post a lot more in terms of development reports. Our team has been working with Shadow community members who are setting up a new website with a development blog to keep you all up to date. So expect regular updates from now on - this one being the first.

The weeks ahead of us are all about ShadowMarket so we are pleased to announce that we have started integrating it into Shadowcore’s back end. We're currently switching from scrypt to SHA-256 so that staking requires less cpu cycles, updating to PoS v2 to improve network stability and working on BIP32 and BIP44 support so that we can support hierarchical / tree categories for the market. Once we are finished with these enhancements, things should start moving significantly faster. We will be making radical changes to the Secure Messaging (ShadowChat), to support Pub/Sub messages, so that people could subscribe to certain categories for the market, where we will then move towards our first round of public alpha/beta testing. We’ve noticed there are lots of questions about how ShadowMarket will work so we have begun gathering them and will answer them in an overview later this week. So much about the upcoming Shadowmarket for now.

We are all still waiting for Isidor Zeuner’s review of our ShadowSend anonymity system in comparison to other anonymous cryptocurrencies. It is still ongoing and we are currently writing more documentation, which is currently our weakest point. We’ve been in contact with Isidor and are trying to give him a helping hand where needed. Please note that it’s quite a task seeing as he will not only study our system but also compare it to the alternatives out there.

As said earlier, we have a fun week ahead of us. We will try to give more specific details on that later this week.

Thank you all for your support!

Nice! Thanks for the update, shadow is doing great 

[rustynailer]

Hello everybody,

It’s good to see you all so actively supporting Shadow and staying positive as we work towards the release of our decentralized market. As some of you may have noticed, we’ve been a bit quiet on these forums lately when it comes to actively reaching out to all of you with development updates. This doesn’t mean we’ve been sitting still though, because we have a fun week ahead of us. We'll come back to that later.

First of all we are very happy to announce that both Tecnovert and I will be working full-time on Shadow from now on! We're setting our main jobs aside for the upcoming months so that we can really focus on the job at hand. This will obviously result in quicker progress when it comes to releasing new features. Going forward we are also going to post a lot more in terms of development reports. Our team has been working with Shadow community members who are setting up a new website with a development blog to keep you all up to date. So expect regular updates from now on - this one being the first.

The weeks ahead of us are all about ShadowMarket so we are pleased to announce that we have started integrating it into Shadowcore’s back end. We're currently switching from scrypt to SHA-256 so that staking requires less cpu cycles, updating to PoS v2 to improve network stability and working on BIP32 and BIP44 support so that we can support hierarchical / tree categories for the market. Once we are finished with these enhancements, things should start moving significantly faster. We will be making radical changes to the Secure Messaging (ShadowChat), to support Pub/Sub messages, so that people could subscribe to certain categories for the market, where we will then move towards our first round of public alpha/beta testing. We’ve noticed there are lots of questions about how ShadowMarket will work so we have begun gathering them and will answer them in an overview later this week. So much about the upcoming Shadowmarket for now.

We are all still waiting for Isidor Zeuner’s review of our ShadowSend anonymity system in comparison to other anonymous cryptocurrencies. It is still ongoing and we are currently writing more documentation, which is currently our weakest point. We’ve been in contact with Isidor and are trying to give him a helping hand where needed. Please note that it’s quite a task seeing as he will not only study our system but also compare it to the alternatives out there.

As said earlier, we have a fun week ahead of us. We will try to give more specific details on that later this week.

Thank you all for your support!

Wow.  This is just great news.

[svojoe]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

I've got 16K. 2% is a little less than 1 SDC per day. But there are fees added into that.

Just remember you don't really make any money on the 2% PoS. That's inflation not interest because everyone gets it. Well, almost everyone, Shadow tokens don't get it, and I don't know if it makes a difference if the wallet is open or closed.

This is true, but I want to point out that I personally suspect 'coin loss' to far exceed 2% per year.  While everyone gets the 2%, If there was some easy way to quantify it I suspect we'd see the 'actual' spending/sellable SDC to be a smaller number than we suspect.  We already have a couple hundred thousand less coins due to a hot wallet for a tip-bot being lost.   I bet there is way under 6M total SDC in actual existence.

[erok]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

I've got 16K. 2% is a little less than 1 SDC per day. But there are fees added into that.

Just remember you don't really make any money on the 2% PoS. That's inflation not interest because everyone gets it. Well, almost everyone, Shadow tokens don't get it, and I don't know if it makes a difference if the wallet is open or closed.

The more transactions I see, the more I realize it is less than 1 sdc per day. I am going through them now and I get about 2-3 rewards a day and they are between .2 and .08 sdc.... So, i need MORE!

[QNaka]

so how is staking take place? some how someone sent me 5 sdc? idk how but how much would i need in order to start staking

Effectively around 20k? But I am running off around 8k right now and it seems to be getting me around 1 sdc per day. I might be doing it wrong. This is the first coin I have ever POS'ed.

I've got 16K. 2% is a little less than 1 SDC per day. But there are fees added into that.

Just remember you don't really make any money on the 2% PoS. That's inflation not interest because everyone gets it. Well, almost everyone, Shadow tokens don't get it, and I don't know if it makes a difference if the wallet is open or closed.

The more transactions I see, the more I realize it is less than 1 sdc per day. I am going through them now and I get about 2-3 rewards a day and they are between .2 and .08 sdc.... So, i need MORE!

Shouldn't the amount increase significantly once the network will get more traffic (more transactions + SDMarket fees for miners). 

[drAGon925]

We build a TechRynoVert!   Full-time!!   Unstoppable!!!

[ffmad]

thanks to MedUSA, who made this FANTASTIC signature ! He didn't had time to post for contest, so he gave it afterwards
(you can see a good version of it as my signature)

I invite you to send him some SDCs to his address :

You can send ShadowCash here:
SQPqxSjD9tdHbkXopS8QeptyLQbvmWX9D8

Thank you very much!
medUSA

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And for the other ranks (from Roslinpl) :

BBCodes:
Member Design:

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SHADOW ◈ Anonymous POS ◈ Ring Signatures ◈ Encrypted Messaging ◈ 
[url=http://shadow.cash]SHADOW[/url] ◈ Open Source Project ◈ User Friendly Wallet ◈ Built-in Anonymous Market ◈ 
[url=http://shadow.cash]SHADOW[/url] ◈ [url=http://shadow.cash]HOME PAGE[/url] ◈ [url=http://shadowtalk.org]FORUM[/url] ◈ [url=http://shadowcash.info]WIKI[/url] ◈

SHADOW ◈ Anonymous POS ◈ Ring Signatures ◈ Encrypted Messaging ◈
SHADOW ◈ Open Source Project ◈ User Friendly Wallet ◈ Built-in Anonymous Market ◈
SHADOW ◈ HOME PAGE ◈ FORUM ◈ WIKI ◈


Full Member Design:

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SHADOW ◈◈ Anonymous POS ◈ Ring Signatures ◈ Encrypted Messaging ◈
SHADOW ◈◈ Open Source Project ◈ User Friendly Wallet ◈ Built-in Anonymous Market ◈
SHADOW ◈◈ HOME PAGE ◈ FORUM ◈ WIKI ◈

[PaidFudder]

is it to high too buy now?
pro's tell me

[drAGon925]

is it to high too buy now?
pro's tell me

Probably is better to buy at 20k , or 40k , if you look that way.
In a month, 200k or 400k can be low, who can know that.
But thing is, Shadow isn't "pumped" yet. In my eyes, we are on 3$ now and 10$ is not enough for Shadow,
so we are late.. 

[deliveryman]

is it to high too buy now?
pro's tell me

Lets just say its still very cheap long term.
Short term i dont know. I think it will go a lil higher if they say upcoming week will be a fun week

[Schild_]

is it to high too buy now?
pro's tell me

Lets just say its still very cheap long term.
Short term i dont know. I think it will go a lil higher if they say upcoming week will be a fun week

Agree. Shadow has the best vision and the best disruptive strategy.  Even Dark wanted to merge with the Shadow Team. Of course the price is not longer at 1-2k (I miss those days!) but this is perhaps also the reason why Ryno and Technovert can now afford to work full time for the coin. Correct price for the coin is at least 1$ now....

[ffmad]

If you are interested in the Shadow Project, you can now join our Slack Group.

Especially if you have ideas for the project and if you would like to help (communication / dev / ...)

For that, send me your email by PM here or on ShadowTalk