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February 03, 2018, 04:36:02 PM
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Anyone think the Circle acquisition of Poloniex will have any significant price impact in mid term. I expect they must be planning to become a fiat/altcoin gateway, given that Bittrex is apparently adding USD deposits and Coinbase is supposed to be adding more alts as well. Between the three, if XMR is available for trade/purchase with dollars on all three, I think it could provide a decent infusion of fresh cash.

Hi, where did you hear about circle and polo? I can't find any news or anything anywhere, do you have a link maybe? Thanks
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February 03, 2018, 05:01:02 PM
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Following the advice of others which seemed sound to me, I buy and hold Monero in cold stores etched on to iridium plates stored on three continents using a redundant variation of Shamir, for the most part but also trade swings on vega volatility with 5% of holdings.

My long term views are based primarily on fairly standard economic models for money supply, for the PPP correlation of currencies modulo RFR differences, estimation of the growth rate of DNMs and their adoption curves, and of reserve demand levels for digital assets.  Given such estimates, parameterized by event timing, one derives a distribution surface which can be integrated out to determine the rNPV of Monero.  When it is below the current clearing price, XMR is undervalued, and vice versa contrariwise.  The first order estimate is roughly 3k USD in 2020,  when I plan to begin divesting 10% of contemporaneous holdings annually.  (The distribution is fairly wide, however, and the horizon obscured by intervening construction.)  Naively, i.e. without risk adjustment over the scenario distribution, that provides an NPV of ~2700.  The correct risk adjustment is basically impossible to make without Monte Carlo (baccarat), and has huge sensitivity to model missteps, both parametric and structural, so I won't go in to detail on it, except to say that in the end, over that tenor, integrating over scenarios, I get an rNPV of ~2100.  In general it is the high weighting of the model's tails which makes the estimates so high.

I discount for model error by a factor of 10, which is just a dead reckoning based on past experience with model error and leg lengths during Fashion Week.  Consequently, today I buy for the long term under 210.  A simple volatility trading strategy is to sell an aluminum ladder based on  z score, and to buy when the valuation discountings yield an undervaluation judgement.  I last sold at 400, and when I sell again will be determined by the price path after the manner of my poker instructor, Feynmann.  If it rises too high too fast, I start selling from the 5%, and buy them back on the opposite ladder, up to the penultimate rung.  Residing in Chile, I can hedge these swings with options on correlated futures in an SPV without incurring the Tobin tax.


Well I lol'd. Have some merit (for all the good it does).

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February 03, 2018, 05:06:31 PM
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Anyone think the Circle acquisition of Poloniex will have any significant price impact in mid term. I expect they must be planning to become a fiat/altcoin gateway, given that Bittrex is apparently adding USD deposits and Coinbase is supposed to be adding more alts as well. Between the three, if XMR is available for trade/purchase with dollars on all three, I think it could provide a decent infusion of fresh cash.

Hi, where did you hear about circle and polo? I can't find any news or anything anywhere, do you have a link maybe? Thanks

Saw article retweeted by fluffyponzi on tweeter yesterday, but apparently it was fake news:
https://twitter.com/AriDavidPaul/status/959598411954651136
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February 03, 2018, 06:33:33 PM
Last edit: February 03, 2018, 08:00:39 PM by phishead
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With monero at rock bottom prices, 0.02 XMR per square is a steal! (we want more participants)

1st Annual Super Bowlero Pool
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2808377.0



Join up guys it's cheap and completely random.

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Boating accident, shmoating accident... Be a man and lose your monroes while watching a Goat passing the pig skin irresponsibly, with me, Monero's loveable bookie.. phishead Smiley

Edit: to stay on topic, this is a good summary of how I feel about the markets right now



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February 03, 2018, 08:43:11 PM
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https://longforecast.com/monero-price-prediction-2018-2019-2020-2021-xmr-to-usd

What is this based on? A few days ago there forecast was a lot, a lot higher
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February 03, 2018, 08:44:42 PM
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Following the advice of others which seemed sound to me, I buy and hold Monero in cold stores etched on to iridium plates stored on three continents using a redundant variation of Shamir, for the most part but also trade swings on vega volatility with 5% of holdings.

My long term views are based primarily on fairly standard economic models for money supply, for the PPP correlation of currencies modulo RFR differences, estimation of the growth rate of DNMs and their adoption curves, and of reserve demand levels for digital assets.  Given such estimates, parameterized by event timing, one derives a distribution surface which can be integrated out to determine the rNPV of Monero.  When it is below the current clearing price, XMR is undervalued, and vice versa contrariwise.  The first order estimate is roughly 3k USD in 2020,  when I plan to begin divesting 10% of contemporaneous holdings annually.  (The distribution is fairly wide, however, and the horizon obscured by intervening construction.)  Naively, i.e. without risk adjustment over the scenario distribution, that provides an NPV of ~2700.  The correct risk adjustment is basically impossible to make without Monte Carlo (baccarat), and has huge sensitivity to model missteps, both parametric and structural, so I won't go in to detail on it, except to say that in the end, over that tenor, integrating over scenarios, I get an rNPV of ~2100.  In general it is the high weighting of the model's tails which makes the estimates so high.

I discount for model error by a factor of 10, which is just a dead reckoning based on past experience with model error and leg lengths during Fashion Week.  Consequently, today I buy for the long term under 210.  A simple volatility trading strategy is to sell an aluminum ladder based on  z score, and to buy when the valuation discountings yield an undervaluation judgement.  I last sold at 400, and when I sell again will be determined by the price path after the manner of my poker instructor, Feynmann.  If it rises too high too fast, I start selling from the 5%, and buy them back on the opposite ladder, up to the penultimate rung.  Residing in Chile, I can hedge these swings with options on correlated futures in an SPV without incurring the Tobin tax.


God thats alot of work! I just guess. Smiley

I appear to have spawned another parody account. Could use some work on the Sig and Text though. Well, that was quick.

I love it, there was real effort put into this one! I may have to turn sigs on to see it. Smiley



With monero at rock bottom prices, 0.02 XMR per square is a steal! (we want more participants)

1st Annual Super Bowlero Pool
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2808377.0



Join up guys it's cheap and completely random.

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Boating accident, shmoating accident... Be a man and lose your monroes while watching a Goat passing the pig skin irresponsibly, with me, Monero's loveable bookie.. phishead Smiley

Edit: to stay on topic, this is a good summary of how I feel about the markets right now



Your a horrible bookie, you don't get any Vig!

https://longforecast.com/monero-price-prediction-2018-2019-2020-2021-xmr-to-usd

What is this based on? A few days ago there forecast was a lot, a lot higher

They have no clue what they are talking about, I would completely discount that retarded site it cannot use those algo's for crypto yet. maybe those algo's will be good in a few years but then the baseline they will be using from then will be wildly different than what they are forecasting now. Is there anywhere I can bet my home and everything including my tighty whitey's against their forcast?

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February 03, 2018, 09:09:30 PM
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I appear to have spawned another parody account. Could use some work on the Sig and Text though. Well, that was quick.

Lol, I was just about to call 'you' out on the above. People have too much time on their hands it seems.


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February 03, 2018, 10:10:00 PM
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I appear to have spawned another parody account. Could use some work on the Sig and Text though. Well, that was quick.

Lol, I was just about to call 'you' out on the above. People have too much time on their hands it seems.



I lol'd by the second sentence  Cheesy   Good clean fun.  Doesn't matter if its a Cargo Cult rendition, the farther off it is while remaining recognizable the funnier it is.
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February 04, 2018, 02:56:49 AM
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Anyone think the Circle acquisition of Poloniex will have any significant price impact in mid term. I expect they must be planning to become a fiat/altcoin gateway, given that Bittrex is apparently adding USD deposits and Coinbase is supposed to be adding more alts as well. Between the three, if XMR is available for trade/purchase with dollars on all three, I think it could provide a decent infusion of fresh cash.

Hi, where did you hear about circle and polo? I can't find any news or anything anywhere, do you have a link maybe? Thanks

Saw article retweeted by fluffyponzi on tweeter yesterday, but apparently it was fake news:
https://twitter.com/AriDavidPaul/status/959598411954651136

Thanks, and thank lord LOL Cheesy
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February 04, 2018, 05:28:56 AM
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Anyone think the Circle acquisition of Poloniex will have any significant price impact in mid term. I expect they must be planning to become a fiat/altcoin gateway, given that Bittrex is apparently adding USD deposits and Coinbase is supposed to be adding more alts as well. Between the three, if XMR is available for trade/purchase with dollars on all three, I think it could provide a decent infusion of fresh cash.

Hi, where did you hear about circle and polo? I can't find any news or anything anywhere, do you have a link maybe? Thanks

Saw article retweeted by fluffyponzi on tweeter yesterday, but apparently it was fake news:
https://twitter.com/AriDavidPaul/status/959598411954651136

Thanks, and thank lord LOL Cheesy

So you are saying, litecoin is taking over polo, and absorbing the monero project?
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February 04, 2018, 10:58:03 AM
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You know what I been thinking.

Maybe its not such a coincidence everyone's funds got locked down left right and centre with KYC changes just before the pump up of it all.


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February 04, 2018, 02:52:09 PM
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Our friend MetropolisHastings12 has a sense of humor.  I like the Fermat sig.  
And the nym tells you how he came up with the text
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis%E2%80%93Hastings_algorithm
A few years ago I played around with Markov Chain generation of text from samples, which creates gobbledygook that replicates the style of the original without any of the semantic content.  There are tools available, if you just google it.
So our newfound friend MetropolisHastings12 is a sock puppet that a regular from this forum, no doubt, is wearing on his antic little digits (pun intended).
I must say that to create such a tidy product from the small sample of aminorex's posts is an admirable accomplishment.  I had to use megs of text sample to get a decent result with the primitive Markov Chain tools I used.  Like this
Code:
// main.cpp --
//
// This file implements a simple character level markov text generator.  It
// reads sample text from standard input, then generates any number of
// K-order markov texts to a series of files.
//
//
// Usage:
//
//      markov [options] < sample_text
//
//          --order=K           Specify the number of preceeding tokens to
//                              consider in determining the next token.
//                              Default is 3.
//          --outputsize=N      Number of bytes to output.  The generator will
//                              not necessarily generate exactly this many
//                              bytes.  For example, it may wander too close
//                              to the end of the original input when
//                              generating output, and lose the ability to
//                              generate more text.  Also, the generator
//                              always tries to end the file with a newline,
//                              so it will continue to generate output after
//                              hitting N bytes, until a newline is output
//                              or 2*N bytes have been output.  Default is
//                              10000 bytes.
//          --inputsize=N       Maximum number of bytes of input to read.
//                              Default is 5,000,000 bytes.
//          --setsize=N         Number of output samples to produce.  Files
//                              named "output.0" through "output.N-1" will
//                              be created.  Default is 1.
//
// Copyright (c) 2004-2009 Electric Cloud, Inc.
// All rights reserved.
// Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
// modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
//
//     * Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice,
//       this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
//     * Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
//       notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
//       documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
//     * Neither the name of Electric Cloud nor the names of its employees may
//       be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software
//       without specific prior written permission.
//
// THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS "AS IS"
// AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE
// IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE
// ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER OR CONTRIBUTORS BE
// LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR
// CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF
// SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS
// INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN
// CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE)
// ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE
// POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.


#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#include <sys/time.h>
#include <getopt.h>
#include <unistd.h>


using namespace std;


static int K = 3;


//----------------------------------------------------------------------------
// strcmpIndirect
//
//      Compare two strings given by pointers to pointers to the strings.
//      This is just a simple wrapper around strcmp which accomodates an
//      extra level of indirection.
//----------------------------------------------------------------------------


int strcmpIndirect(const void *a, const void *b) {
    const char *stringA, *stringB;
    stringA = *((char **)a);
    stringB = *((char **)b);


    return strcmp(stringA, stringB);
}


// The following enum supplies integer values for our command-line options.


enum {
    MARKOV_OPTIONS_INPUT_SIZE = 500,
    MARKOV_OPTIONS_ORDER,
    MARKOV_OPTIONS_OUTPUT_SIZE,
    MARKOV_OPTIONS_NUMBER_OF_SAMPLES,
    MARKOV_OPTIONS_HELP
};


// Our list of commmand-line options.


static struct option MARKOV_OPTIONS[] = {
    { "inputsize",      1,      0,      MARKOV_OPTIONS_INPUT_SIZE },
    { "order",          1,      0,      MARKOV_OPTIONS_ORDER },
    { "outputsize",     1,      0,      MARKOV_OPTIONS_OUTPUT_SIZE },
    { "setsize",        1,      0,      MARKOV_OPTIONS_NUMBER_OF_SAMPLES },
    { "help",           0,      0,      MARKOV_OPTIONS_HELP },
    { 0,                0,      0,      0}
};


static void usage(char *argv[])
{
    char *tail = strrchr(argv[0], '/');
    if (tail == NULL) {
        tail = argv[0];
    } else {
        tail = tail + 1;
    }
    fprintf(stderr,
"markov\n"
"Generate letter-level Markov text based on sample text read from standard\n"
"input, writing to output files named output.*.\n\n"
"Usage:\n"
"%s [options ...]\n\n"
"Valid options are:\n\n"
"    --order=K            Number of preceeding characters to consider when\n"
"                         generating the next character (default 3).\n"
"    --outputsize=N       Number of characters to generate in the output\n"
"                         file (default 10000).\n"
"    --setsize=N          Number of output files to generate (default 1).\n"
            "\n"
            , tail);
    return;
}


int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
    int MAX_CHARS = 5000000;
    int OUTPUT_CHARS = 10000;
    int SET_SIZE = 1;
    extern char *optarg;


    bool done = false;
    while (!done) {
        switch (getopt_long(argc, argv, "", MARKOV_OPTIONS, 0)) {
            case MARKOV_OPTIONS_INPUT_SIZE: {
                MAX_CHARS = atoi(optarg);
                break;
            }


            case MARKOV_OPTIONS_ORDER: {
                K = atoi(optarg);
                break;
            }


            case MARKOV_OPTIONS_OUTPUT_SIZE: {
                OUTPUT_CHARS = atoi(optarg);
                break;
            }


            case MARKOV_OPTIONS_NUMBER_OF_SAMPLES: {
                SET_SIZE = atoi(optarg);
                break;
            }


            case MARKOV_OPTIONS_HELP: {
                usage(argv);
                return 1;
            }


            case -1: {
                done = true;
                break;
            }


            default: {
                fprintf(stderr, "bad option\n");
                usage(argv);
                return 1;
            }
        }
    }
   
    char *input = new char[MAX_CHARS];
    char **suffixes = new char *[MAX_CHARS];
    char *output = new char[OUTPUT_CHARS * 2];


    // Read as much input as we are willing to read.


    int bytesRead = read(0, input, MAX_CHARS - 1);
    if (bytesRead < 0) {
        fprintf(stderr, "markov: error reading input data, exiting.\n");
        return 1;
    }


    if (bytesRead == 0) {
        fprintf(stderr, "markov: no input data, exiting.\n");
        return 1;
    }


    input[bytesRead] = 0;


    // Set up the suffix array.  Each element in this array points to a
    // distinct character in the input.


    fprintf(stderr, "markov: initializing suffix array.\n");
    for (int i = 0; i < bytesRead; ++i) {
        suffixes = &(input);
    }


    // Now sort the array to bring suffixes with similar prefixes together.
    // We'll use a qsort with a special strcmp that adds a level of
    // indirection, so we can sort the pointers.


    fprintf(stderr, "markov: sorting suffix array.\n");
    qsort(suffixes, bytesRead, sizeof(char *), strcmpIndirect);


    // Seed the random number generator.


    struct timeval now;
    gettimeofday(&now, 0);
    srand(now.tv_usec);


    for (int current = 0 ; current < SET_SIZE ; ++current) {
        // Seed the output with a random sequence of K characters from the
        // input.


        int seedStart = (int) ((bytesRead / 2) * rand() / (RAND_MAX + 1.0));
        int index = 0;
        memset(output, 0, OUTPUT_CHARS * 2);


        for (index = 0; index < K; ++index) {
            output[index] = input[index + seedStart];
        }


        // Now output approximately OUTPUT_CHARS characters.  We say
        // approximately because we will only stop output if we have
        // just written a newline, to try to guarantee well-formed
        // output.  This means that in general, we will output more
        // than OUTPUT_CHARS characters.


        done = false;
        while (!done && (index < (OUTPUT_CHARS * 2))) {
            if (index % 250 == 0) {
                write(2, ".", 1);
            }


            // First search the suffix array for the first suffix with the
            // prefix output[index - K].


            char *prefix = &(output[index - K]);


            int l = -1;
            int u = bytesRead;
            while ((l + 1) != u) {
                int m = (l + u) / 2;
                if (strncmp(suffixes[m], prefix, K) < 0) {
                    l = m;
                } else {
                    u = m;
                }
            }


            // "u" now holds the index of the first suffix that
            // matches.  Of all the suffixes with this prefix, pick
            // one at random.


            int choice = 0;
            for (int i = 0; suffixes[u + i]
                         && strncmp(suffixes, prefix, K) == 0; ++i) {
                if ((rand() % (i + 1)) == 0) {
                    choice = i;
                }
            }


            // Now take the K+1'th character of the chosen suffix.  If this
            // character is the null terminator, then we're done.  If this
            // character is a newline and we have output at least OUTPUT_CHARS
            // characters, then we're done.  Otherwise, we loop.


            switch (suffixes[u + choice][K]) {
                case '\0':
                    // We happened to find the suffix that starts
                    // exactly K characters from the end of the input.
                    // If this is the only suffix that matches the
                    // prefix, then we're done, regardless of how many
                    // characters of output we've generated.
                    // Otherwise, we'll loop and try again.


                    if ((choice == 0)
                            && (strncmp(suffixes[u + 1], prefix, K)) != 0) {
                        done = true;
                    }
                    break;


                case '\n':
                    if (index >= OUTPUT_CHARS) {
                        done = true;
                    }


                    // DELIBERATELY FALL THROUGH: WE WANT THE NEWLINE
                    // IN OUTPUT.


                default:
                    output[index] = suffixes[K];
                    index++;
                    break;
            }
        }


        char filename[32];
        sprintf(filename, "output.%d", current);
        FILE *f = fopen(filename, "w");
        fprintf(f, "%s", output);
        fclose(f);


        write(2, "done\n", 5);
    }
    return 0;
}
which chains characters, not words.  Set K to your desired Markov Chain length.
Speaking of Monte Carlo, this is an interesting projection of bitcoin price using Monte Carlo (but not Markov Chain)
https://medium.com/@xoelop/weve-simulated-the-bitcoin-price-for-the-whole-2018-you-won-t-believe-the-result-4a602679dac2
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February 04, 2018, 02:54:00 PM
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Been reading up on XMR and want to get into privacy for 2018. Like XMR because it's already established and should have stable/steady growth, which will be good for where it'll fit in my portfolio.

Are there any potential developments for big spikes coming in 2018? My understanding is that Monero is basically deployed as a working product and upcoming developments would be mostly just enhancements. Any chance at partnerships or any newsworthy moments? Or is XMR just a slow and steady riser?
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February 04, 2018, 04:05:33 PM
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I need to have a solid infrastructure to be able to have enough information to correct this information. I am waiting for June

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February 04, 2018, 04:24:36 PM
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Been reading up on XMR and want to get into privacy for 2018. Like XMR because it's already established and should have stable/steady growth, which will be good for where it'll fit in my portfolio.

Are there any potential developments for big spikes coming in 2018? My understanding is that Monero is basically deployed as a working product and upcoming developments would be mostly just enhancements. Any chance at partnerships or any newsworthy moments? Or is XMR just a slow and steady riser?

Bullet proofs come in 2018. Bullet proofs will see a space savings/fee reduction of ~80% on standard 2 output transactions but much higher space savings on transactions with more than 2 outputs. After that the next big development will probably be kovri. I don't know if we can expect to see kovri on main net in 2018 though. The focus of the monero project is on steady improvement of the core product rather than flashy new "me too" features.

Rep Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381041
If one can not confer upon another a right which he does not himself first possess, by what means does the state derive the right to engage in behaviors from which the public is prohibited?
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February 04, 2018, 04:37:32 PM
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Been reading up on XMR and want to get into privacy for 2018. Like XMR because it's already established and should have stable/steady growth, which will be good for where it'll fit in my portfolio.

Are there any potential developments for big spikes coming in 2018? My understanding is that Monero is basically deployed as a working product and upcoming developments would be mostly just enhancements. Any chance at partnerships or any newsworthy moments? Or is XMR just a slow and steady riser?

Bullet proofs come in 2018. Bullet proofs will see a space savings/fee reduction of ~80% on standard 2 output transactions but much higher space savings on transactions with more than 2 outputs. After that the next big development will probably be kovri. I don't know if we can expect to see kovri on main net in 2018 though. The focus of the monero project is on steady improvement of the core product rather than flashy new "me too" features.

Great, thanks. Basically confirmed what I already suspected.

I've got some coins that I expect to pump more than XMR in the short term but am excited to move the profits to Monero in the near future.
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February 04, 2018, 08:05:34 PM
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Been reading up on XMR and want to get into privacy for 2018. Like XMR because it's already established and should have stable/steady growth, which will be good for where it'll fit in my portfolio.

Are there any potential developments for big spikes coming in 2018? My understanding is that Monero is basically deployed as a working product and upcoming developments would be mostly just enhancements. Any chance at partnerships or any newsworthy moments? Or is XMR just a slow and steady riser?



Remeber witrh a Privacy coin of this caliber all code must be 100% vetted, one fuckup and the whole house of cards can come crashing down. MONERO cannot just pull a ETH and hardfork the chain back because someone lost their coins. Immutable means something HERE!


His premise that

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So if you think sound and uncensorable money is important to enough people

is incorrect, but thanks for the link it was interesting.

Our friend MetropolisHastings12 has a sense of humor.  I like the Fermat sig. 
And the nym tells you how he came up with the text
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis%E2%80%93Hastings_algorithm
A few years ago I played around with Markov Chain generation of text from samples, which creates gobbledygook that replicates the style of the original without any of the semantic content.  There are tools available, if you just google it.
So our newfound friend MetropolisHastings12 is a sock puppet that a regular from this forum, no doubt, is wearing on his antic little digits (pun intended).
I must say that to create such a tidy product from the small sample of aminorex's posts is an admirable accomplishment.  I had to use megs of text sample to get a decent result with the primitive Markov Chain tools I used.  Like this

Thanks for pointing this out! Smiley

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Our friend MetropolisHastings12 has a sense of humor.  I like the Fermat sig. 
And the nym tells you how he came up with the text
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis%E2%80%93Hastings_algorithm
A few years ago I played around with Markov Chain generation of text from samples, which creates gobbledygook that replicates the style of the original without any of the semantic content.  There are tools available, if you just google it.
So our newfound friend MetropolisHastings12 is a sock puppet that a regular from this forum, no doubt, is wearing on his antic little digits (pun intended).
I must say that to create such a tidy product from the small sample of aminorex's posts is an admirable accomplishment.  I had to use megs of text sample to get a decent result with the primitive Markov Chain tools I used.  Like this

Thanks for pointing this out! Smiley
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Yes thanks seconded - led me right down some rabbit holes

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February 05, 2018, 09:31:18 AM
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A coin that is untraceable will never be adopted by governments or major corporations. Without some sort of trace to the original buyer, banks will never have anything to do with companies who accept anonymous transactions. That is just common sense. I believe Monero is here to stay but its only going to be prioritized by people who don't want to be traced.
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February 05, 2018, 10:08:46 AM
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A coin that is untraceable will never be adopted by governments or major corporations. Without some sort of trace to the original buyer, banks will never have anything to do with companies who accept anonymous transactions. That is just common sense. I believe Monero is here to stay but its only going to be prioritized by people who don't want to be traced.

Monero has something called "view key", so when you WANT to make it public you CAN.
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