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January 01, 2018, 09:34:50 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7n83mc/an_update_on_the_monero_hardware_wallet_with/

Monero Hardware Wallet.  Projected to be $10-$20.  Cool.  I'd buy a stack of them for gifts.

Ohh yeah that looks like a great deal! I'm in. Keep Zooko away from it or he'll try to backdoor it for TPTB! Smiley Who'd doing the software? I also heard there will be DIY instructions, do you have a link for those?

Found this.

thanks man that link took me on a 2 hour jaunt that ended here. Smiley

https://github.com/jedisct1/libsodium/issues/170

BTW, I missed this discussion and it's pretty relevant to BP release date on mainet. I'd love to see a more indepth read on the various DEVs opinions on whether to roll out next HF or not. I'm wondering if it could be rolled out on something like AEON first as it is a real deal breaker if it turns out to be not as advertised (IOW compromisable or attackable). I'm also wondering why we have funding for bullshit that gets filled instantly but there is no Funding Proposal for Independent Review of such a CORE component.

https://monerobase.com/wiki/DevMeeting_2017-12-17

THIS would get funded immediately.

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I expect giant gains for XMR in 2018!!!!!

$1,000 no wait $5,000 !!

... Shit I forgot my sig campaign  Roll Eyes

LOL, I always do and don't make the cut some weeks. Smiley


XMR has been knocking on the .025BTC door for quite some time.  Recently it's been poking right over that value multiple times in a row.  I like.  Volume still soft... but we are coiling imho.

Sorry to ruin it by posting Hueristic...

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January 01, 2018, 11:19:18 PM
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I think that projects such as XMR and similar ZEC-DASH will come to very good price levels. A massive upturn may take place in 2018. Yes, there can be a big and sounding move.
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January 01, 2018, 11:25:44 PM
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I think that projects such as XMR and similar ZEC-DASH will come to very good price levels. A massive upturn may take place in 2018. Yes, there can be a big and sounding move.

Pfft, I'm waiting for ZEC-DASH Classic, all other coins will shake in its big and sounding move.

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January 02, 2018, 02:07:12 AM
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XMR has been knocking on the .025BTC door for quite some time.  Recently it's been poking right over that value multiple times in a row.  I like.  Volume still soft... but we are coiling imho.

Sorry to ruin it by posting Hueristic...

Knock knock knockin' on .025  .026  .027's door...
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January 02, 2018, 02:56:22 AM
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New year, new forecast from Johnny Mnemonic? I need another Rule of Five™ prediction.

I second that!
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January 02, 2018, 03:47:30 AM
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If history repeats like it has, we will get another monster pump in the end of August.


- August 24th, 2016: AlphaBay accepts XMR for payment, massive pump

- August 21st, 2017: Bithumb lists XMR, another huge pump

- August 2018: ?
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January 02, 2018, 04:27:11 AM
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monero going down with majority of alts. btc has been sideways for quite sometime.

do you guys think this is the start of a dump?


No way! Tiny fluctuations in short time periods won't give you a good picture of the overall trend. Pull your perspective back a click or two, and give it a little time.  Grin


Up, up, and still going up! Looking back, that "dump" on 12/14 barely registers on Monero's trajectory.
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January 02, 2018, 04:49:48 AM
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Hoping for $500 by February!
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January 02, 2018, 06:03:20 AM
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I expect giant gains for XMR in 2018!!!!!

$1,000 no wait $5,000 !!

... Shit I forgot my sig campaign  Roll Eyes

Ya, me too.  But aren't you here to tell us that there's no way it could possibly reach $1000 or $5000 in only one year!?
Happy New Year  Cheesy

I was mocking the posts above mine that post absolute nothingness just in order to advertise their sig campaign

But no I don't think it'll go to $5,000 this year, should hit $1,000 come end of this year while still sliding down the rankings for overall marketcap, that seems to be the pattern at the moment.

and yes happy new year to you as well.
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January 02, 2018, 09:04:38 AM
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XMR has been knocking on the .025BTC door for quite some time.  Recently it's been poking right over that value multiple times in a row.  I like.  Volume still soft... but we are coiling imho.

Sorry to ruin it by posting Hueristic...

Knock knock knockin' on .025  .026  .027's door...
So would it be realistic to think XMR would go to like .4 or .5 btc?

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January 02, 2018, 09:38:47 AM
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XMR has been knocking on the .025BTC door for quite some time.  Recently it's been poking right over that value multiple times in a row.  I like.  Volume still soft... but we are coiling imho.

Sorry to ruin it by posting Hueristic...

Knock knock knockin' on .025  .026  .027's door...
So would it be realistic to think XMR would go to like .4 or .5 btc?

What is realistic?  There is no precedent, we are all in this for the first time.  What does it take to lose that first mover network advantage?  Or was it an advantage, in the long game?  I think XMR will dominate, simply on ethics and fungibility. .4 - .5 is an area through which we must pass to do so.  It remains to be seen how this ecosystem will stabilize, or if it implodes under its own weight, even.  
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January 02, 2018, 11:43:26 AM
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I am still riding the waves from the first days. Bought it very early and I will not sell it. Cheesy
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January 02, 2018, 12:37:25 PM
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Not that I care too much about CMC, but looking at top20 (sadly), we got a lot of contenders, and we might see ourselves in the bottom end by EOW.
With all this craze with coins that gives 500% roi in a couple of weeks, we might get a little pushed over. We need to keep up the pace.
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January 02, 2018, 01:03:56 PM
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Not that I care too much about CMC, but looking at top20 (sadly), we got a lot of contenders, and we might see ourselves in the bottom end by EOW.
With all this craze with coins that gives 500% roi in a couple of weeks, we might get a little pushed over. We need to keep up the pace.

Best in class privacy is best in class privacy. Not sure I care about flavor of the minute coins that lack the fundamental qualities to be a digital cash. But verge-on if you have the attention of a squirrel riding a merry-go-round, sooner or later you'll fly off and be left dazed, going, "wha... Wha -- what happened?"

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January 02, 2018, 01:16:31 PM
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Ledger working on implementation and the other wallet mentioned here https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7n83mc/an_update_on_the_monero_hardware_wallet_with/ we will see an easy 30% rise.
Privacy coins are the future.

The great thing about monero is it's steady growth. Incremental steps without big pumps and dumps

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January 02, 2018, 03:50:57 PM
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Do you think it is still feasible to invest in Monero for the long run or should I wait for another dip below $300?

Just buy gradually.  If it does dip, you get some cheap.  If it doesn't dip, you at least get some.  At this point, I think it will take a serious governance lapse and a major software vulnerability to interrupt Monero's rise to the position of premeire global digital currency.

It's hard to say because of the number of stealth coins coming out now. There's a lot of competition.

Almost all of them are doomed.  Only dash and zcash compete meaningfully for the economic niche, and both are much riskier, due to governance, technical and economic  problems.  Hence XMR leadership.  

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer - it is a fundamental law of network economies.


Still bullish as ever I see! Smiley

I think we should probably see north of $1500USD in 2018.

Any thoughts?

DNM adoption/emission drop alone, not to mention, iOS/Hardware wallets, bulletproofs, even a possible Coinbase onboarding.


I just don't understand why we are not top 5 by mcap. Anyway... room to grow!
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January 02, 2018, 04:38:37 PM
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I found this article on the CLOAK ANN thread. It discusses Monero so I thought I'd pass it on
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-01-02/criminal-underworld-is-dropping-bitcoin-for-another-currency

I think we should probably see north of $1500USD in 2018.
Any thoughts?
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Seeing that XMR went from >10$ to 350$+ in less than a year it's not all that far fetched.

I'm starting a technology blog T4CH.top, check it out!
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January 02, 2018, 06:08:07 PM
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Still bullish as ever I see! Smiley

I think we should probably see north of $1500USD in 2018.

Any thoughts?

DNM adoption/emission drop alone, not to mention, iOS/Hardware wallets, bulletproofs, even a possible Coinbase onboarding.


I just don't understand why we are not top 5 by mcap. Anyway... room to grow!

Yes Monero and the mystery of market cap is fascinating

iirc it got as high as #5 last year but has been on a steady and slow tumble down the rankings ever since.

Even as I type this it is now at #12 behind NEO and then MASSIVELY behind Dash, I mean if every crypto were to stand still and Monero had a gargantuan increase of +50% it still would not be in the Top 10.

Why? who knows, there sure are a lot of coins with a circulating supply in the billions with a huge market cap probably a psychological buy seeing coins below a dollar being pumped so hard people jump on board rather quickly.

Maybe it can't shake the negative stigma around it that its basically only for criminal activity in a way that Bitcoin was able to shake.

Or maybe its because (My personal theory) people just don't give a damn about privacy, when you take that away its just a slower more expensive version of many other coins with implementation moving at a snails pace.

I still think it will move up gradually in fiat value (as a bagholder I sure hope so) but maybe it won't be in the top 10 ever again, would have to increase way over 50% to even keep up at this stage.

Who really knows though its crypto after all crazy market that makes sense to no one!
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January 02, 2018, 06:18:14 PM
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Still bullish as ever I see! Smiley

I think we should probably see north of $1500USD in 2018.

Any thoughts?

DNM adoption/emission drop alone, not to mention, iOS/Hardware wallets, bulletproofs, even a possible Coinbase onboarding.


I just don't understand why we are not top 5 by mcap. Anyway... room to grow!

Yes Monero and the mystery of market cap is fascinating

iirc it got as high as #5 last year but has been on a steady and slow tumble down the rankings ever since.

Even as I type this it is now at #12 behind NEO and then MASSIVELY behind Dash, I mean if every crypto were to stand still and Monero had a gargantuan increase of +50% it still would not be in the Top 10.

Why? who knows, there sure are a lot of coins with a circulating supply in the billions with a huge market cap probably a psychological buy seeing coins below a dollar being pumped so hard people jump on board rather quickly.

Maybe it can't shake the negative stigma around it that its basically only for criminal activity in a way that Bitcoin was able to shake.

Or maybe its because (My personal theory) people just don't give a damn about privacy, when you take that away its just a slower more expensive version of many other coins with implementation moving at a snails pace.

I still think it will move up gradually in fiat value (as a bagholder I sure hope so) but maybe it won't be in the top 10 ever again, would have to increase way over 50% to even keep up at this stage.

Who really knows though its crypto after all crazy market that makes sense to no one!

Market caps really don't tell the whole story even though they are the go-to metric for ranking the value of cryptos.

Many of the coins in the top 15 have absolutely insane premines that can be as high as tens of *billions* of coins. Most of these coins are locked up by centralized interests and don't do anything other than to inflate the market cap of that coin.

A better metric would be number of transactions, of which you would see coins like BTC, BCH, ETH, LTC, and XMR at the top of.
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January 02, 2018, 06:30:37 PM
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Still bullish as ever I see! Smiley

I think we should probably see north of $1500USD in 2018.

Any thoughts?

DNM adoption/emission drop alone, not to mention, iOS/Hardware wallets, bulletproofs, even a possible Coinbase onboarding.


I just don't understand why we are not top 5 by mcap. Anyway... room to grow!

Yes Monero and the mystery of market cap is fascinating

iirc it got as high as #5 last year but has been on a steady and slow tumble down the rankings ever since.

Even as I type this it is now at #12 behind NEO and then MASSIVELY behind Dash, I mean if every crypto were to stand still and Monero had a gargantuan increase of +50% it still would not be in the Top 10.

Why? who knows, there sure are a lot of coins with a circulating supply in the billions with a huge market cap probably a psychological buy seeing coins below a dollar being pumped so hard people jump on board rather quickly.

Maybe it can't shake the negative stigma around it that its basically only for criminal activity in a way that Bitcoin was able to shake.

Or maybe its because (My personal theory) people just don't give a damn about privacy, when you take that away its just a slower more expensive version of many other coins with implementation moving at a snails pace.

I still think it will move up gradually in fiat value (as a bagholder I sure hope so) but maybe it won't be in the top 10 ever again, would have to increase way over 50% to even keep up at this stage.

Who really knows though its crypto after all crazy market that makes sense to no one!

Market caps really don't tell the whole story even though they are the go-to metric for ranking the value of cryptos.

Many of the coins in the top 15 have absolutely insane premines that can be as high as tens of *billions* of coins. Most of these coins are locked up by centralized interests and don't do anything other than to inflate the market cap of that coin.

A better metric would be number of transactions, of which you would see coins like BTC, BCH, ETH, LTC, and XMR at the top of.

True, but no one metric really tells the whole story either.

Mcap just seems to be the one that coins usually get ranked from rightly or wrongly.
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