[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Febo]

Can someone comment on the fact that Monero hash rate distribution is 52% "unknown"? Does that mean these 52% are actually solo mining?

I think it just means there's been a lot of new pools come online that aren't being checked by the pie chart you're looking at.

Not just new pools. But also old. If rdp would provide us link with this info and which pols are there I could find some other links with missing pools and add them. Every pool on their statistic page adds polls they want. Many avoid adding minergate.

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[jwinterm]

Can someone comment on the fact that Monero hash rate distribution is 52% "unknown"? Does that mean these 52% are actually solo mining?

I think it just means there's been a lot of new pools come online that aren't being checked by the pie chart you're looking at.

Not just new pools. But also old. If rdp would provide us link with this info and which pols are there I could find some other links with missing pools and add them. Every pool on their statistic page adds polls they want. Many avoid adding minergate.

I saw post the other day showing pie chart that I started with matplotlib a long time ago and was picked up by poolto.be and minexmr.com, and looks like minexmr is only one still running script (currently showing 55% unknown).

http://minexmr.com/pools.html

Looks like xinbya not even querying minergate...

[rdp]

Can someone comment on the fact that Monero hash rate distribution is 52% "unknown"? Does that mean these 52% are actually solo mining?

I think it just means there's been a lot of new pools come online that aren't being checked by the pie chart you're looking at.

Not just new pools. But also old. If rdp would provide us link with this info and which pols are there I could find some other links with missing pools and add them. Every pool on their statistic page adds polls they want. Many avoid adding minergate.

I saw post the other day showing pie chart that I started with matplotlib a long time ago and was picked up by poolto.be and minexmr.com, and looks like minexmr is only one still running script (currently showing 55% unknown).

http://minexmr.com/pools.html

Looks like xinbya not even querying minergate...

Exactly that one I used: http://minexmr.com/pools.html

[Nathan047]

Can someone comment on the fact that Monero hash rate distribution is 52% "unknown"? Does that mean these 52% are actually solo mining?

I'm sure that a lot of Monero miners don't want people to know they mine Monero. On top of the fact that there are probably just pools that are unlisted in your chart, there's always the idea that there could be some high profile mining being done behind the scenes or that there may be large botnets doing more mining than we think.

Edit: Case in point: https://qz.com/1110419/north-korea-may-be-using-malware-to-secretly-mine-ethereum-monero-or-zcash/

[Febo]

Can someone comment on the fact that Monero hash rate distribution is 52% "unknown"? Does that mean these 52% are actually solo mining?

I think it just means there's been a lot of new pools come online that aren't being checked by the pie chart you're looking at.

Not just new pools. But also old. If rdp would provide us link with this info and which pols are there I could find some other links with missing pools and add them. Every pool on their statistic page adds polls they want. Many avoid adding minergate.

I saw post the other day showing pie chart that I started with matplotlib a long time ago and was picked up by poolto.be and minexmr.com, and looks like minexmr is only one still running script (currently showing 55% unknown).

http://minexmr.com/pools.html

Looks like xinbya not even querying minergate...

From here https://monerohash.com/#network

You can see that
minergate    26500.00 KH/s  or 4.75%
dwarfpool.com  20308 khs or 3.64%

I did expect they have more hash power. It makes still half unknown. I bet there are more known pools outhere we did not listed.

[rdp]

Can someone comment on the fact that Monero hash rate distribution is 52% "unknown"? Does that mean these 52% are actually solo mining?

I think it just means there's been a lot of new pools come online that aren't being checked by the pie chart you're looking at.

Not just new pools. But also old. If rdp would provide us link with this info and which pols are there I could find some other links with missing pools and add them. Every pool on their statistic page adds polls they want. Many avoid adding minergate.

I saw post the other day showing pie chart that I started with matplotlib a long time ago and was picked up by poolto.be and minexmr.com, and looks like minexmr is only one still running script (currently showing 55% unknown).

http://minexmr.com/pools.html

Looks like xinbya not even querying minergate...

From here https://monerohash.com/#network

You can see that
minergate    26500.00 KH/s  or 4.75%
dwarfpool.com  20308 khs or 3.64%

I did expect they have more hash power. It makes still half unknown. I bet there are more known pools outhere we did not listed.

What I actually want to know if this "unknown" hash rate is more distributed or more concentrated on a bot network which seems distributed but is controlled by a single/few entities. I presume there are these bot networks given the past ransomeware spread. Maybe the first wave was "naive", locking computers and demanding BTC/XMR direct transfers, but now they just keeps silent and continue spreading and collecting the money through mining.

[Anon136]

What I actually want to know if this "unknown" hash rate is more distributed or more concentrated on a bot network which seems distributed but is controlled by a single/few entities. I presume there are these bot networks given the past ransomeware spread. Maybe the first wave was "naive", locking computers and demanding BTC/XMR direct transfers, but now they just keeps silent and continue spreading and collecting the money through mining.

Either way they probably aren't really a threat to us. Only the overlords of the legacy banking system, governments, or the heads of other crypto currency projects might care to want to harm our network. The people who run these botnets are probably not one of these. Infact they are probably, at this point, invested in the networks success themselves unless they go and liquidate every penny of revenue.

[rdp]

What I actually want to know if this "unknown" hash rate is more distributed or more concentrated on a bot network which seems distributed but is controlled by a single/few entities. I presume there are these bot networks given the past ransomeware spread. Maybe the first wave was "naive", locking computers and demanding BTC/XMR direct transfers, but now they just keeps silent and continue spreading and collecting the money through mining.

Either way they probably aren't really a threat to us. Only the overlords of the legacy banking system, governments, or the heads of other crypto currency projects might care to want to harm our network. The people who run these botnets are probably not one of these. Infact they are probably, at this point, invested in the networks success themselves unless they go and liquidate every penny of revenue.

Good point. I think this answer my question.

[Chicken_76]

Now that Ripple overtook Ethereum, what do you guys and gals think that means for the whole crypto space? Do you think we shall see Ripple at no.1 at some point? I want to hear your speculations.

[kurious]

Now that Ripple overtook Ethereum, what do you guys and gals think that means for the whole crypto space? Do you think we shall see Ripple at no.1 at some point? I want to hear your speculations.

With that many billions of 'tokens' all instamined?  No - can't see it. 

[explorer]

Now that Ripple overtook Ethereum, what do you guys and gals think that means for the whole crypto space? Do you think we shall see Ripple at no.1 at some point? I want to hear your speculations.

With that many billions of 'tokens' all instamined?  No - can't see it. 

   Market cap is bogus.  XRP in the past has arbitrarily doubled the supply.  Why not do it every year or ?  No different from $$, just quicker to transact.

[Globb0]

I worry in this facebook and meme world, we live in, whether anyone sees any deeper these days.

They will all be filing in line to hand over their cash.

Already seen a mention from a serious city banker type to which I replied bad bad bad of course.



*edit* Thinking on I have said bad bad bad before about projects and they often rose before they collapsed

My speculegence remains with Monero,


Getting serious, shes my second longest partner now  

[generalizethis]

I worry in this facebook and meme world, we live in, whether anyone sees any deeper these days.

They will all be filing in line to hand over their cash.

Already seen a mention from a serious city banker type to which I replied bad bad bad of course.

When cash is made illegal only outlaws will own cash.


And every billionaire and corporation who doesn't want their funds tied up by some rouge judge who decided that all their funds should be locked up just in case a 1 trillion dollar suit is succesful.

[vaddi]

Sadly XMR is no more under the top 10 coins on coinmarketcap now. 

[rinus]

Bitcoin takes another beathing thus monero goes down with it ... it still hurts to see this. hopefully some of u guys are right about
reaching 777 usd in Q1 2018 . i suppose hardware wallet should do this?

[amaral1977]

Bitcoin takes another beathing thus monero goes down with it ... it still hurts to see this. hopefully some of u guys are right about
reaching 777 usd in Q1 2018 . i suppose hardware wallet should do this?

It´s incredible how people doesn´t see the advantages of decentralization. I won´t even go to privacy and fungibility. Decentralization alone. A good part of the new money past 10k is going crazy about ripple. And some of them are going in at these price levels. So sad.

[rinus]

Bitcoin takes another beathing thus monero goes down with it ... it still hurts to see this. hopefully some of u guys are right about
reaching 777 usd in Q1 2018 . i suppose hardware wallet should do this?

It´s incredible how people doesn´t see the advantages of decentralization. I won´t even go to privacy and fungibility. Decentralization alone. A good part of the new money past 10k is going crazy about ripple. And some of them are going in at these price levels. So sad.

I dont understand as well, to me it looks like one big hype this whole crypto thing. I still believe in Monero so I am holding long , I’m just wondering what the bottem will be. 150 like mentioned earlier?

[vit05]

I still believe in monero as one of the best coins to be used, not only to be speculated. But the fees could start to be seen as a problem. And we see that there are many coins that are trying to take the crown from Monero as the coin for people that want and need privacy. Hope we see some solutions to that fund that will pay some devs. I have taken some profits from the ZClassic pump and from Dash and put on Monero.

[Globb0]

Its a double edge sword that we keep track so well against BTC.

I think its cos most people cant adjust well to changing prices of the underlying BTC and kind of baselined on their entry point.

[anandgeek1]

If bitcoin continues its way down, then we have a good chance to buy this coin at a low price. This is probably New Year discounts for the altcoin. I like it