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Author Topic: LTCgear.com, the best scrypt/scrypt n/X11 cloud mining service, Not paying!!!  (Read 361306 times)
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January 02, 2015, 07:34:44 PM
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I think everyone is just patiently waiting for an update from Chris. Even if payouts do not go out today but he gives an ETA of payouts (say 1-2 days from now) It will give a lot of people a sigh of relief.
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January 02, 2015, 08:30:25 PM
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I think everyone is just patiently waiting for an update from Chris. Even if payouts do not go out today but he gives an ETA of payouts (say 1-2 days from now) It will give a lot of people a sigh of relief.

Yeah a sign of life and some sort of ETA would be nice.


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January 02, 2015, 08:37:55 PM
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Just keep calm.. He normally updates after midnight UTC
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January 02, 2015, 08:42:20 PM
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the truth is gonna eventually dawn on you all
What truths that then? If you know something out with it.....

its a classic ponzi... he make payments to build trust/gather more payments...

now he is stalling and taking whatever money he can from those who still make payments.

the money is gone. eventually the realization will come over all who 'invested.'


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January 02, 2015, 08:47:28 PM
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he was Romanian ('Chris') 
money is gone - are my experiences with this country


I'm half-half on this. I've looked into him a lot, picked up some threads on how his head works, and he does not read like a usual scammer at all. However, he might need help with the social side of things, maybe someone running a twitter. I mean surely someone would do this for a few LTC. Just to relay messages to us?
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January 02, 2015, 08:54:01 PM
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the truth is gonna eventually dawn on you all
What truths that then? If you know something out with it.....

its a classic ponzi... he make payments to build trust/gather more payments...

now he is stalling and taking whatever money he can from those who still make payments.

the money is gone. eventually the realization will come over all who 'invested.'



Possible but he does have this date set to pay so ultimately it comes down to whether we see the weekend pass with no pay. Then, yeah, worry will set it.
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January 02, 2015, 08:56:29 PM
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the truth is gonna eventually dawn on you all
What truths that then? If you know something out with it.....

its a classic ponzi... he make payments to build trust/gather more payments...

now he is stalling and taking whatever money he can from those who still make payments.

the money is gone. eventually the realization will come over all who 'invested.'



Possible but he does have this date set to pay so ultimately it comes down to whether we see the weekend pass with no pay. Then, yeah, worry will set it.



yeah but what is coming when he not pay?! NOTHING!
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January 02, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
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I think that time really matters now, if we all want to get some of our money back or 'justice to be served'.

Let's be honest the fact he hasn't shared his actual name, made any videos, posted any pictures of his farm even if he said he would.
He didn't keep his paypal account or 'accounts'.
He is not even using a btc processor like BitPay etc. (even butterfly labs did and I got my money back even after 4 months)
The fact that he offers an 8% discount for those who pay in btc, when it is actually the only way to pay him through his website (so that he doesn't bother with sending other coins to exchanges which could be a way of tracking him)
49% discount to turn your profits in shares (however you can't transfer your shares anymore, which is the best way to finish of a ponzi)
ROI 2-3 months
No Blockchain verification (at least I don't know if he is verified)
No public mining addresses and before changing hosting service (at least I don't know any)
He was using WhoIsGuard http://whois.domaintools.com/ltcgear.com before he moved hosting.
He hasn't responded to most emails, no announcement other the server upgrade even if many other cloudhosting websites-ponzis have collapsed and a few people haven't received anything for weeks.
Exiting during holidays would be a great plan as people want to have fun so the scammers have an excuse for delays etc and many of scammed ones wouldn't bother at such a time.

People who are hoping that because he dealt with paypal, that they will get information about him they should think again about how paypal works and that it is easy to hide yourself. If he stopped using his account because he wasn't verified (that's probably he had low limits) or bought several verified accounts or even used other people accounts (family, friends etc) in order to hide his tracks. etc etcHe stopped his account going to get a lot of information. Also he could give extra coins/money to these people to keep their mouth shut, who probably are already satisfied customers who have gotten their money back and probably more.

If you are able to find any information or track 'Christian' as soon as possible that will be the best. Even if people think that he will return, we could still gather as many information and also create a plan in case he takes our money and runs away. This call is for people that send him money through PayPal (if there is any info) , for people who traded physical miners with him and especially those who send their stuff back to him (if he actually did trade anything), for people who have talked with him over the phone, email accounts other than ltcgear's, any social networks (even a fake account) or even VoIp. People who have received referral payments could share their addresses so that we can see where their payments came from. People who have send him Btc and he still hasn't withdrawn them from the deposit address or people that know any existing mining addresses (even if he is not the owner).

Someone sent me this on reddit :

Hey,
First of all sorry for my bad english.
I have some informations to submit to you.
Here you have a report about the company behind ltcgear with real names of owmers :
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=26173647106903370379

Some info very scary infos are showing up, but they are coming from the same person :
https://web.archive.org/web/20100602074532/
http://www.schipor.info/
http://forums.phone-tools.cn/showthread.php/7840-Beware-Alexgsmteam-%28schipor-alexander-schipor-cristian-schipor-cornelia%29 http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/2661858-post21.html

Personal info about Chris :
http://results.42km.ro/athletes/view?id=2574
http://alumni.cs.pub.ro/membri/7748.html
Even personal address and phone was found on the romanian phone white pages :
http://www.carte-telefoane.info/SCHIPOR_ILIE_CRISTIAN-who1044744.html

He also sent me info about a woman, might be his wife-sister anything or might be nothing. She probably isn't responsible for any of this, but if we can info about Chris through her that would be good.

About Lavinia schipor :
http://ro.netlog.com/laviniaschipor
(selling page) : http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/pic16F73-microcontroller_103558627.html
Her youtube account : http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH9h39LbGCGfYYWRD-lBaww
(was foud here) : https://plus.google.com/116685333693506738812/about)
http://www.childcarenow.co.uk/find/nannies-in-edgware#/profile/lavinia-schipor
I didn't sign up to have more info : http://www.colegiimei.ro/Lavinia-Schipor/colegi-146381

OK, let's get serious just in case.

Videos: There is a vimeo account so we can see some evidence of his farm or at least his abilities.
Paypal: People did use paypal at some stage, no? However, indeed it could just be registered to the domain and so it will just be a dud of sorts (easy to set up one with no real info if dedicated I am sure).
Blockchain: If you look through the profile beekeeper you will see Bitcoin addresses (I assume on Litecointalk too) and so analysis is possible. Perhaps an IP address might be extracted somewhere.

But now that I see all the info just posted I'm pretty scared to be honest.
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January 02, 2015, 09:14:27 PM
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Farm Payments

Shares rate will use today event exchange rate (3K0 with 8% and 49% discounts). DUAL MODs current conversion rate is published on account page.

Each Farm share pays equivalent of 63kHs.

Each ASIC share pays equivalent of 100kHs.

Jan 2 2015 calculations for Litecoin:
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January 02, 2015, 09:21:27 PM
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Farm Payments

Shares rate will use today event exchange rate (3K0 with 8% and 49% discounts). DUAL MODs current conversion rate is published on account page.

Each Farm share pays equivalent of 63kHs.

Each ASIC share pays equivalent of 100kHs.

Jan 2 2015 calculations for Litecoin:

Nice  Grin Grin
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January 02, 2015, 09:31:11 PM
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Yes, I hope we'll see our payments tomorrow, and Chris will sell all his 2nd gen shares like skyrocket.
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January 02, 2015, 09:34:27 PM
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Yes, I hope we'll see our payments tomorrow, and Chris will sell all his 2nd gen shares like skyrocket.

Tomorrow would be good. What do you think the ETA on this is realistically?

I have 20 2nd Generation shares so will be exciting to see them go live at some point...
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January 02, 2015, 09:44:50 PM
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I have some 2nd gen too. I think nothing, just believe in Chris.
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January 02, 2015, 09:45:58 PM
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I have some 2nd gen too. I think nothing, just believe in Chris.

In Chris we trust  Grin

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January 02, 2015, 10:27:01 PM
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I think that time really matters now, if we all want to get some of our money back or 'justice to be served'.

Let's be honest the fact he hasn't shared his actual name, made any videos, posted any pictures of his farm even if he said he would.
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Dude. Cool down. "Justice to be served", FFS, he gave an ETA for fixing the database that hasn't passed, people have been paid for the 12th and the 19th, let the guy work out this stuff and stay far far away from accusations that are completely baseless.
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January 02, 2015, 10:28:14 PM
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farm payments update:

Shares rate will use today event exchange rate (3K0 with 8% and 49% discounts). DUAL MODs current conversion rate is published on account page.

Each Farm share pays equivalent of 63kHs.
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January 02, 2015, 10:34:29 PM
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farm payments update:

Shares rate will use today event exchange rate (3K0 with 8% and 49% discounts). DUAL MODs current conversion rate is published on account page.

Each Farm share pays equivalent of 63kHs.

Why is everyone posting the top info without the actual number? "Total: 0.01248679 LTC / 7 days / 1 ASIC Share" is the important part. Let's hope payments start coming in soon. 
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January 02, 2015, 11:20:45 PM
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farm payments update:

Shares rate will use today event exchange rate (3K0 with 8% and 49% discounts). DUAL MODs current conversion rate is published on account page.

Each Farm share pays equivalent of 63kHs.

Why is everyone posting the top info without the actual number? "Total: 0.01248679 LTC / 7 days / 1 ASIC Share" is the important part. Let's hope payments start coming in soon. 

This is meaningless without the btc conversion rates.
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January 02, 2015, 11:23:14 PM
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farm payments update:

Shares rate will use today event exchange rate (3K0 with 8% and 49% discounts). DUAL MODs current conversion rate is published on account page.

Each Farm share pays equivalent of 63kHs.

Why is everyone posting the top info without the actual number? "Total: 0.01248679 LTC / 7 days / 1 ASIC Share" is the important part. Let's hope payments start coming in soon. 

This is meaningless without the btc conversion rates.
Not if you take payment in Ltc  Grin
Academic anyway, sites gone - looks like he's off.  Wink (Kidding)
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January 02, 2015, 11:30:35 PM
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I think that time really matters now, if we all want to get some of our money back or 'justice to be served'.

Let's be honest the fact he hasn't shared his actual name, made any videos, posted any pictures of his farm even if he said he would.
He didn't keep his paypal account or 'accounts'.
He is not even using a btc processor like BitPay etc. (even butterfly labs did and I got my money back even after 4 months)
The fact that he offers an 8% discount for those who pay in btc, when it is actually the only way to pay him through his website (so that he doesn't bother with sending other coins to exchanges which could be a way of tracking him)
49% discount to turn your profits in shares (however you can't transfer your shares anymore, which is the best way to finish of a ponzi)
ROI 2-3 months
No Blockchain verification (at least I don't know if he is verified)
No public mining addresses and before changing hosting service (at least I don't know any)
He was using WhoIsGuard http://whois.domaintools.com/ltcgear.com before he moved hosting.
He hasn't responded to most emails, no announcement other the server upgrade even if many other cloudhosting websites-ponzis have collapsed and a few people haven't received anything for weeks.
Exiting during holidays would be a great plan as people want to have fun so the scammers have an excuse for delays etc and many of scammed ones wouldn't bother at such a time.

People who are hoping that because he dealt with paypal, that they will get information about him they should think again about how paypal works and that it is easy to hide yourself. If he stopped using his account because he wasn't verified (that's probably he had low limits) or bought several verified accounts or even used other people accounts (family, friends etc) in order to hide his tracks. etc etcHe stopped his account going to get a lot of information. Also he could give extra coins/money to these people to keep their mouth shut, who probably are already satisfied customers who have gotten their money back and probably more.

If you are able to find any information or track 'Christian' as soon as possible that will be the best. Even if people think that he will return, we could still gather as many information and also create a plan in case he takes our money and runs away. This call is for people that send him money through PayPal (if there is any info) , for people who traded physical miners with him and especially those who send their stuff back to him (if he actually did trade anything), for people who have talked with him over the phone, email accounts other than ltcgear's, any social networks (even a fake account) or even VoIp. People who have received referral payments could share their addresses so that we can see where their payments came from. People who have send him Btc and he still hasn't withdrawn them from the deposit address or people that know any existing mining addresses (even if he is not the owner).

Someone sent me this on reddit :

Hey,
First of all sorry for my bad english.
I have some informations to submit to you.
Here you have a report about the company behind ltcgear with real names of owmers :
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=26173647106903370379

Some info very scary infos are showing up, but they are coming from the same person :
https://web.archive.org/web/20100602074532/
http://www.schipor.info/
http://forums.phone-tools.cn/showthread.php/7840-Beware-Alexgsmteam-%28schipor-alexander-schipor-cristian-schipor-cornelia%29 http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/2661858-post21.html

Personal info about Chris :
http://results.42km.ro/athletes/view?id=2574
http://alumni.cs.pub.ro/membri/7748.html
Even personal address and phone was found on the romanian phone white pages :
http://www.carte-telefoane.info/SCHIPOR_ILIE_CRISTIAN-who1044744.html

He also sent me info about a woman, might be his wife-sister anything or might be nothing. She probably isn't responsible for any of this, but if we can info about Chris through her that would be good.

About Lavinia schipor :
http://ro.netlog.com/laviniaschipor
(selling page) : http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/pic16F73-microcontroller_103558627.html
Her youtube account : http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH9h39LbGCGfYYWRD-lBaww
(was foud here) : https://plus.google.com/116685333693506738812/about)
http://www.childcarenow.co.uk/find/nannies-in-edgware#/profile/lavinia-schipor
I didn't sign up to have more info : http://www.colegiimei.ro/Lavinia-Schipor/colegi-146381

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