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November 10, 2015, 02:57:01 AM |
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As I've read off post ain't the best shares just cosmetic, but shares is what really matters?
On a solo pool share count is cosmetic. You want a best share equal to or greater than current difficulty. Yeah, shares and best share simply show how your hardware is running. Getting a 2,000,000,000 diff share has no effect on when you might get a necessary (current) 62,253,982,449.760818+ diff share
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kano
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November 10, 2015, 03:03:00 AM |
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I run at that speed only a few minutes, like 20 to 30 mins. I hit both my blocks within the first few minutes of beginning mining. If I dont hit it within an hour, I stop and try again the next day. If you're hot you'll hit it. If you're not, mining all day wont help. So, if you hit a block, keep mining - you might get a second one.
Its the same principals in gambling. Randomness hits in streaks. Even when flipping a coin many times you will see streaks of one side then the other. Like in Vegas, I cant tell you how many times I've seen the roulette board all black or all red.
Just my observations...
Unfortunately that's wrong. You can neither predict nor design when the next block will be found. They are as random as the sha256 hash is random. Thinking you can beat randomness is part of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy
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November 10, 2015, 03:21:34 AM |
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While I agree that the mathematical probability of each event is independent, I also believe there is more going on than just pure random numbers. If you are consistently getting low best share numbers over a period of time, it is logical to predict that it is unlikely to have a sudden best share of over 64 billion.
My best share climbed to about 30 billion just before solving the block. I'm not saying its always like this, I just look for patterns, anything to help know when it is more likely to happen.
Just my opinion, and what works for me. I'm interested to know what "system" if any, others use...
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November 10, 2015, 03:29:51 AM |
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My best share climbed to about 30 billion just before solving the block. I'm not saying its always like this, I just look for patterns, anything to help know when it is more likely to happen.
We can debate this forever and I was thinking like you before but i'm telling you, the "pattern" or previous "experience" has no effect/influence/pattern on the next hash you'll calculate (either you find a block or not). It's simply random and you cannot predict the future.
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November 10, 2015, 03:58:41 AM |
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My best share climbed to about 30 billion just before solving the block. I'm not saying its always like this, I just look for patterns, anything to help know when it is more likely to happen.
We can debate this forever and I was thinking like you before but i'm telling you, the "pattern" or previous "experience" has no effect/influence/pattern on the next hash you'll calculate (either you find a block or not). It's simply random and you cannot predict the future. It really is. We had run a group solo mining. It was like 3 different tries until on the fourth we had 2 blocks at the very end of our rental. It is random, and you never know what you'll expect.
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November 10, 2015, 04:01:07 AM |
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While I agree that the mathematical probability of each event is independent, I also believe there is more going on than just pure random numbers. If you are consistently getting low best share numbers over a period of time, it is logical to predict that it is unlikely to have a sudden best share of over 64 billion.
My best share climbed to about 30 billion just before solving the block. I'm not saying its always like this, I just look for patterns, anything to help know when it is more likely to happen.
Just my opinion, and what works for me. I'm interested to know what "system" if any, others use...
rent hash cheaper then the odds all other systems are simply gambling. 123.1 th should earn 1 btc in a day hitting ck's pool would give you about 25 coins you need to rent 123.1 th for less the 1 btc for 24 hours. so as long as your price is under .0076 the odds are in your favor you are not gambling you are making an investment. Which if done over and over and over should make a profit. So my system is determine the correct price to pay.
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kano
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November 10, 2015, 04:34:21 AM |
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While I agree that the mathematical probability of each event is independent, I also believe there is more going on than just pure random numbers. If you are consistently getting low best share numbers over a period of time, it is logical to predict that it is unlikely to have a sudden best share of over 64 billion.
My best share climbed to about 30 billion just before solving the block. I'm not saying its always like this, I just look for patterns, anything to help know when it is more likely to happen.
Just my opinion, and what works for me. I'm interested to know what "system" if any, others use...
There is no system, it's a common flaw most people make with statistics - ignoring something called sample vs population. Statistics has a whole analysis of exactly that - what sample size is required to give an expected accuracy of predicting the population. If someone sees a small sample that has their desired result, most will incorrectly assume that effect to be more apparent than it is. The simplest and most obvious example of the expected result is to look at the pools that have mined hundreds or thousands of blocks. Look at their long term block finding 'luck' (ignore Eligius - their pool management and code suck) If there was some magic way to get more blocks, no doubt some pools would be finding more blocks than expected. Instead, of course, pools that have mined many blocks are averaging close to the expected 100% luck.
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November 10, 2015, 07:18:16 AM |
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I rent miners sometimes form nicehash Web site. Which diff setting i must use good performance ckpool site solo mining?
none it auto adjusts. I hit 2 blocks in 2 hours on nicehash pointed to solo here no diff needed. Thanks. So i only wrote x in Password area. I do not write d=1024 etc. Just x is good for the password, the pool will automatically adjust the diff . @philipma1957 @hedgy73 thank you very much for information. i will try solo mining 1 month about 100 TH/s.
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hedgy73
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November 10, 2015, 07:36:20 AM |
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I rent miners sometimes form nicehash Web site. Which diff setting i must use good performance ckpool site solo mining?
none it auto adjusts. I hit 2 blocks in 2 hours on nicehash pointed to solo here no diff needed. Thanks. So i only wrote x in Password area. I do not write d=1024 etc. Just x is good for the password, the pool will automatically adjust the diff . @philipma1957 @hedgy73 thank you very much for information. i will try solo mining 1 month about 100 TH/s. You're welcome and good luck . Today I fired up a lone S5 (1.1TH) with a Corsair AX860 platinum psu to solo mine for the winter here in the UK to keep the chill off my office. No real chance of finding a block but the way I look at it is that its a £2 a day heater / lottery ticket . P.S. I changed the fan so its reasonably quiet, wouldn't get any work done with the stock fan all that would do is give me a headache.
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November 10, 2015, 11:14:18 AM |
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You're welcome and good luck . Today I fired up a lone S5 (1.1TH) with a Corsair AX860 platinum psu to solo mine for the winter here in the UK to keep the chill off my office. No real chance of finding a block but the way I look at it is that its a £2 a day heater / lottery ticket . P.S. I changed the fan so its reasonably quiet, wouldn't get any work done with the stock fan all that would do is give me a headache. good luck to you.
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November 10, 2015, 11:31:50 AM |
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CK; am I correct in assuming that each user (bitcoin address mined to) is solving for a hash for a block with a transaction to themselves?
In another way of asking, if another guy is mining, does the block seed hash change because of his bitcoin address compared to mine? or is the winning hash just the "stamp" or "seal"" and the pool server writes the transaction based on who the winning hash came from?
Are we truly "Solo" mining, or is it more "pooled"....
I have always been curious on this "mechanic" of solo pools.
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November 10, 2015, 11:42:00 AM |
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CK; am I correct in assuming that each user (bitcoin address mined to) is solving for a hash for a block with a transaction to themselves?
In another way of asking, if another guy is mining, does the block seed hash change because of his bitcoin address compared to mine? or is the winning hash just the "stamp" or "seal"" and the pool server writes the transaction based on who the winning hash came from?
Are we truly "Solo" mining, or is it more "pooled"....
I have always been curious on this "mechanic" of solo pools.
Everyone is working on unique work on all pools - even changing just 1 bit in the work template gives completely different results to every miner. The difference on other pools is they are all trying to generate a block to the same generation address(es). With this pool, every unique bitcoin address has its own generation address as part of the block it's trying to solve. This "pool" is in a sense only pooled miners on one node, but each unique miner is mining their own unique coinbase generation transaction. The result is the same as true solo mining to your own bitcoind locally - however you are now trusting your hashrate to my node to handle your workload which means you have the element of trust involved in the pool operator (i.e. me) that you are truly working on what you think you are working on (though that happens with every pool) so it's not in the strictest sense true solo distributed mining. But you get the bonus of the ultra low latency high performance node at an extremely low fee for the service.
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November 10, 2015, 11:49:59 AM |
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Everyone is working on unique work on all pools - even changing just 1 bit in the work template gives completely different results to every miner. The difference on other pools is they are all trying to generate a block to the same generation address(es). With this pool, every unique bitcoin address has its own generation address as part of the block it's trying to solve. This "pool" is in a sense only pooled miners on one node, but each unique miner is mining their own unique coinbase generation transaction. The result is the same as true solo mining to your own bitcoind locally - however you are now trusting your hashrate to my node to handle your workload which means you have the element of trust involved in the pool operator (i.e. me) that you are truly working on what you think you are working on (though that happens with every pool) so it's not in the strictest sense true solo distributed mining. But you get the bonus of the ultra low latency high performance node at an extremely low fee for the service.
Exactly the answer I seek =) I thought it would work this way. I think it would be very convoluted if it worked the other way. I am very happy to not have to run a bitcoinD service on my cellular connection. The miners are fine. barely much traffic. But; just running a node... man. GB of data. =) Yeah; I mine from T-mobile! You do provide a great service for that. If a RasPi could reliably run as a full node... I would have been doing that at a remote site. but; so far; I am happy with what I found here! (and over trying to get other stuff to work right 24/7)
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November 10, 2015, 01:05:27 PM |
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Another block found.
Congrats!
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November 10, 2015, 01:25:09 PM |
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[2015-11-10 04:59:45] Pool 0 message: Block 382903 solved by 122ki3sRnLQVmVYQqNTuPxjudb4tMQUpcf @ solo.ckpool.org! [2015-11-10 04:59:46] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
just saw it
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November 10, 2015, 02:32:05 PM |
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Come on S3 solve me a block!
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November 10, 2015, 03:24:33 PM |
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Back from travel. So many block's solved in the last 3 day's... Congrats to all the lucky solver.
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from the creator of CGMiner http://solo.ckpool.org for Solominers paused: passthrough for solo.ckpool.org => stratum+tcp://rfpool.org:3334
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November 10, 2015, 05:12:53 PM |
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Congrats to all the lucky solver.
wasn't me
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hodedowe
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November 10, 2015, 05:25:04 PM |
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Congrats to all the lucky solver.
wasn't me But I caught you on the bathroom counter...
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Solo mining is alive and profitable! Helped? Thanks! 1CXRFh4bDVFBsUzoHMMDbTMPcBP14RUTus
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-ck (OP)
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November 10, 2015, 09:06:32 PM |
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[2015-11-10 04:59:45] Pool 0 message: Block 382903 solved by 122ki3sRnLQVmVYQqNTuPxjudb4tMQUpcf @ solo.ckpool.org! [2015-11-10 04:59:46] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
just saw it
[2015-11-10 12:59:40.552] Possible block solve diff 91744837102.841385 ! [2015-11-10 12:59:42.971] BLOCK ACCEPTED! [2015-11-10 12:59:42.979] Solved and confirmed block 382903 by 122ki3sRnLQVmVYQqNTuPxjudb4tMQUpcf
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/block/00000000000000000bfbf9158b41c0a4a5153cdaa4e44a04810cd09ba4401111There was also a near-miss by someone. Ckpool submits all possible block solves within 1% of the current diff in case of rounding errors: [2015-11-10 16:03:28.794] Possible block solve diff 62238693717.853767 ! [2015-11-10 16:03:28.877] SUBMIT BLOCK RETURNED: high-hash [2015-11-10 16:03:28.879] Submitted, but rejected block 382916
Someone out there has a best share that will make them wince. Current diff is 62253982449.76081848
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