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October 08, 2015, 05:51:51 PM |
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The problem is a person loading software from a USB and you do not know about it. Look up about bad usb. You should never on any of your computers let someone plug a USB drive of theirs in.
If you pay someone and he uses a bad usb exploit it might look like hes nice and helping. But it could be capturing keys from everything after bad usb exploit was used.
Yea that happened to me, i asked for internet technical service and they came to my house , and they needed to put a software on my PC that checks the internet, so they asked if they can put the usb in my pc, and i said no. So they justh ad to put in from CD, which is safer. After that i scanned my pc and no virus was on it.
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October 08, 2015, 09:06:29 PM |
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The problem is a person loading software from a USB and you do not know about it. Look up about bad usb. You should never on any of your computers let someone plug a USB drive of theirs in.
If you pay someone and he uses a bad usb exploit it might look like hes nice and helping. But it could be capturing keys from everything after bad usb exploit was used.
Yea that happened to me, i asked for internet technical service and they came to my house , and they needed to put a software on my PC that checks the internet, so they asked if they can put the usb in my pc, and i said no. So they justh ad to put in from CD, which is safer. After that i scanned my pc and no virus was on it. A cd could still contain something bad. But most will use USB's as it is so easy to plug in for a few seconds. It really is scary everyone should look up bad usb. You will never let someone use a usb in your computer again.
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October 08, 2015, 09:16:11 PM |
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snip That would make more sense on teaching how to do it. With "have to mostly agree with that point of view, but if you want to store serious about of BTC and you're "non-technical" you should hire someone technical to do it." just sounded like pay for someone to do it not teach, so I could have read it wrong I guess.
But make sure the person teaching you is honest and you trust them. Also DO NOT let them plug anything even just a thumb drive into your computer. And watch them the whole time on computer.
I guess that if a person actually came to your home and set up the software could be somehow installing everything with a privkey he already own, i guess this is some kind of thing you should keep in mind in the BTC world. I guess we should say hire someone to hold your hand through the process of learning and setting it up, maybe online. You're not really physically storing wealth in a container, so there's no physical setup of a vault to do. Its not like there's much that need to be done physically anyways. You just install the software on a offline computer, then learn how to sign transactions on the offline computer. If a very small step up from normal bitcoin usage. The problem is a person loading software from a USB and you do not know about it. Look up about bad usb. You should never on any of your computers let someone plug a USB drive of theirs in. If you pay someone and he uses a bad usb exploit it might look like hes nice and helping. But it could be capturing keys from everything after bad usb exploit was used. I know how vulnerable the usb port is for bypassing security, but i never pictured the process as having someone physically go to your house and show you how to do something you already know how to do (Use a bitcoin wallet). Its not very any more complicated than that, you just need to keep the wallet instead, on a offline computer and then you have your cold storage that cannot be hacked. There's guides for that but if reading is somehow hard for you, then you just hire someone to walk you through the process for you.
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CanIHazBitcoin777
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October 09, 2015, 06:35:37 AM |
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I know how vulnerable the usb port is for bypassing security, but i never pictured the process as having someone physically go to your house and show you how to do something you already know how to do (Use a bitcoin wallet).
Its not very any more complicated than that, you just need to keep the wallet instead, on a offline computer and then you have your cold storage that cannot be hacked. There's guides for that but if reading is somehow hard for you, then you just hire someone to walk you through the process for you.
No it was technical service for my internet, it had nothing to do with bitcoin. But i dont like any people putting USB or stuff in my PC, i just shared this example to see why people need to be cautious , and have many antiviruses on the PC.
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October 10, 2015, 02:21:05 AM |
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Any wallet can be super secured if you just enavle 2fa on it and most of the wallets have 2fa.
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October 10, 2015, 06:36:12 AM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
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Scream
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U will never know the true answer, before you try
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October 10, 2015, 07:03:25 AM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
+1 but you must back up your private key we didn't know when blockchain will close his bitcoin wallet service
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October 10, 2015, 07:16:41 AM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
ehm i beg to differe, the most secure is a local client like core, ina dedicated enviroment, isolated network and desktop used exclusively for that
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October 10, 2015, 07:26:59 AM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
ehm i beg to differe, the most secure is a local client like core, ina dedicated enviroment, isolated network and desktop used exclusively for that yeah bitcoin core is the best choice for supersecure wallet, but i think for now i didnt choose it because my hardisk is limited
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October 10, 2015, 09:20:55 AM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
Wrong advice. I know people which have lost their bitcoins have in this kind of wallet. I don't know how and in which way but the fact that are at least two the verified cases in which people has loss of their bitcoins shows that this wallet it is not at all secure. I use coinbase. Never heard or read even one case of hacking of this wallet. Never heard or read any case of loss of bitcoins from this wallet. I want to add here even that coinbase paid your fees when you send bitcoins while blockchain don't do this. In the last wallet the fee are paid from the sender (from you). So coinbase is not only more secure but even convenient.
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October 10, 2015, 10:03:33 AM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
Wrong advice. I know people which have lost their bitcoins have in this kind of wallet. I don't know how and in which way but the fact that are at least two the verified cases in which people has loss of their bitcoins shows that this wallet it is not at all secure. I use coinbase. Never heard or read even one case of hacking of this wallet. Never heard or read any case of loss of bitcoins from this wallet. I want to add here even that coinbase paid your fees when you send bitcoins while blockchain don't do this. In the last wallet the fee are paid from the sender (from you). So coinbase is not only more secure but even convenient. If using this make sure to use 2 factor authentication. This is essential with a hot wallet like blockchain. It is a good wallet for a little spending money. But I highly suggest cold storage over it for storing a decent amount of coins. Web wallets just do not offer the same security that a proper paper wallet does.
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October 10, 2015, 05:22:32 PM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
I'am not a professional and that's why I made this topic however this is the worst advice you could give to someone i guess , all someone need to do to get millions of dollar that are stored in blockchain is to attack the location where the physicals servers are then run a cracker .. and we all know how easy the passwords used by people these days .
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October 10, 2015, 09:59:00 PM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
I'am not a professional and that's why I made this topic however this is the worst advice you could give to someone i guess , all someone need to do to get millions of dollar that are stored in blockchain is to attack the location where the physicals servers are then run a cracker .. and we all know how easy the passwords used by people these days . If someone hacks your funds from blockchain server side, will blockchain fill your wallet with the missed bitcoins? I haven't heard anyone, but i see that blockchain.info blocks their users accounts so i think it should be a trick to steal peoples funds!!!
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October 10, 2015, 11:27:36 PM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
I'am not a professional and that's why I made this topic however this is the worst advice you could give to someone i guess , all someone need to do to get millions of dollar that are stored in blockchain is to attack the location where the physicals servers are then run a cracker .. and we all know how easy the passwords used by people these days . If someone hacks your funds from blockchain server side, will blockchain fill your wallet with the missed bitcoins? I haven't heard anyone, but i see that blockchain.info blocks their users accounts so i think it should be a trick to steal peoples funds!!! Blockchain.info isint the blockchain. Its just another services. So if they get hacked and they are not insured, you're fucked... Go with cold storage or Coinbase if you absolutely need a online service.
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October 11, 2015, 12:05:50 AM |
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My guess is a cold wallet, a wallet that never has and never will touch the internet, so there's practically no chance of being infiltrated.
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October 11, 2015, 07:10:17 AM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
I'am not a professional and that's why I made this topic however this is the worst advice you could give to someone i guess , all someone need to do to get millions of dollar that are stored in blockchain is to attack the location where the physicals servers are then run a cracker .. and we all know how easy the passwords used by people these days . If someone hacks your funds from blockchain server side, will blockchain fill your wallet with the missed bitcoins? I haven't heard anyone, but i see that blockchain.info blocks their users accounts so i think it should be a trick to steal peoples funds!!! If someone hacks the physicals server then it would be the .dat files and he won't need Two factor authentication or anything like that , he will just crack the passwords and with the amount of wallets they have , they will definitly make few millions .
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October 11, 2015, 06:10:55 PM |
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Most secure wallet is blockchain.info. They encrypt everything in our browser and they store nothing as raw data.
I'am not a professional and that's why I made this topic however this is the worst advice you could give to someone i guess , all someone need to do to get millions of dollar that are stored in blockchain is to attack the location where the physicals servers are then run a cracker .. and we all know how easy the passwords used by people these days . If someone hacks your funds from blockchain server side, will blockchain fill your wallet with the missed bitcoins? I haven't heard anyone, but i see that blockchain.info blocks their users accounts so i think it should be a trick to steal peoples funds!!! If someone hacks the physicals server then it would be the .dat files and he won't need Two factor authentication or anything like that , he will just crack the passwords and with the amount of wallets they have , they will definitly make few millions . Well the password wouldn't be a password, it would be a physical encryption key. To be fair i'm not sure properly secured funds can be ever hacked or stolen, you'd need to find a vulnerability in how the internal transaction works and stealing millions would be somewhat impossible if they store 95-99% of all the bitcoins in cold storage, as they should.
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October 11, 2015, 06:50:39 PM |
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the most secure wallet is definitely hardware wallet
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October 11, 2015, 07:39:59 PM |
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the most secure wallet is definitely hardware wallet
Depends on user. If done properly a paper wallet stored safely is still the best cold storage device there is. You cannot hack paper, it does not have internet. A hardware wallet is great security in most cases. But again it is not safer then a paper wallet (unless someone uses paper wallet wrong)
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October 12, 2015, 06:56:57 AM |
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Probably Blockchain I think. Because there you need identifier and password. Even if someone knows your password he have to know the identifier to be able to login and that is only possible to those who have access to that email with which that blockchain wallet was created
That's why I still trust blockchain and have done $4000+ of transaction so far with Blockchain
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