Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Syke]

It doesn't make sense that they'd be silent about receiving a refund. Once the refund is sent, if you speak about it, it's not like black arrow can reverse the payment they sent you.

Unless the customer agrees to an NDA as a requirement to receiving the refund.

[goozman96]

It doesn't make sense that they'd be silent about receiving a refund. Once the refund is sent, if you speak about it, it's not like black arrow can reverse the payment they sent you.

Unless the customer agrees to an NDA as a requirement to receiving the refund.

And then violate it. What then? They really going to expend resources to hunt you down and sue you? I find it highly unlikely.

[notbatman]

Where's my worthless fire-hazard miner you fucking shit heads?

Its been a year, I want my money back!

[notbatman]

Is this e-mail for real?

[SimonBeCoinin]

Is this e-mail for real?

It seems in line with what I've seen in others, including one the shitbags sent to me, so I'd say it probably is.

we're so late that these things are impossible to sell at these prices and, oh yeah, their quality is for shit.  nobody but a drunk with daddy's money would buy anything from us.

oh and bitmain chewed our balls clean off and is now eating them with a side of fava beans and a nice Chianti.

that is all clearly your fault so you get to eat the loss.

oh, happy holidays

Regards!

[raskul]

demand is low. 
not from what i'm seeing!

[SunnyIgor]

Black Arrow is such a crap company!
If they have any honour left, they should all kill themselfs!

[SimonBeCoinin]

Black Arrow is such a crap company!
If they have any honour left, they should all kill themselfs!

they never had any.   the whole thing was structured in the first place to attempt to dodge any legal ramifications.

everything they've said in terms promises made to sell these and to keep people onboard through their endless delays was utter bullshit.  every bit of it.  a purposeful swindle from minute 1.

these people are nothing but scum.  they started as scum and they're scum now.

[DebitMe]

Black Arrow is such a crap company!
If they have any honour left, they should all kill themselfs!

they never had any.   the whole thing was structured in the first place to attempt to dodge any legal ramifications.

everything they've said in terms promises made to sell these and to keep people onboard through their endless delays was utter bullshit.  every bit of it.  a purposeful swindle from minute 1.

these people are nothing but scum.  they started as scum and they're scum now.

100% agree.  These are just terrible terrible people and I hope their "engineers" (term used lightly) are very sad and upset every time they read these forums.  These are the low of the low of people in this world and the only comfort I afford is knowing that karma will eventually catch up with them (perhaps already has if they really did get a lot of bitcoin stolen which would be hilarious!!!), either in this life, or in the afterlife where they will rot for eternity.

[raskul]

Black Arrow is such a crap company!
If they have any honour left, they should all kill themselfs!

they never had any.   the whole thing was structured in the first place to attempt to dodge any legal ramifications.

everything they've said in terms promises made to sell these and to keep people onboard through their endless delays was utter bullshit.  every bit of it.  a purposeful swindle from minute 1.

these people are nothing but scum.  they started as scum and they're scum now.

100% agree.  These are just terrible terrible people and I hope their "engineers" (term used lightly) are very sad and upset every time they read these forums.  These are the low of the low of people in this world and the only comfort I afford is knowing that karma will eventually catch up with them (perhaps already has if they really did get a lot of bitcoin stolen which would be hilarious!!!), either in this life, or in the afterlife where they will rot for eternity.

karma - and the long arm of the law.

[DebitMe]

Black Arrow is such a crap company!
If they have any honour left, they should all kill themselfs!

they never had any.   the whole thing was structured in the first place to attempt to dodge any legal ramifications.

everything they've said in terms promises made to sell these and to keep people onboard through their endless delays was utter bullshit.  every bit of it.  a purposeful swindle from minute 1.

these people are nothing but scum.  they started as scum and they're scum now.

100% agree.  These are just terrible terrible people and I hope their "engineers" (term used lightly) are very sad and upset every time they read these forums.  These are the low of the low of people in this world and the only comfort I afford is knowing that karma will eventually catch up with them (perhaps already has if they really did get a lot of bitcoin stolen which would be hilarious!!!), either in this life, or in the afterlife where they will rot for eternity.

karma - and the long arm of the law.

and the short dick of the Asian man who makes them his bitch in jail.

[raskul]

Black Arrow is such a crap company!
If they have any honour left, they should all kill themselfs!

they never had any.   the whole thing was structured in the first place to attempt to dodge any legal ramifications.

everything they've said in terms promises made to sell these and to keep people onboard through their endless delays was utter bullshit.  every bit of it.  a purposeful swindle from minute 1.

these people are nothing but scum.  they started as scum and they're scum now.

100% agree.  These are just terrible terrible people and I hope their "engineers" (term used lightly) are very sad and upset every time they read these forums.  These are the low of the low of people in this world and the only comfort I afford is knowing that karma will eventually catch up with them (perhaps already has if they really did get a lot of bitcoin stolen which would be hilarious!!!), either in this life, or in the afterlife where they will rot for eternity.

karma - and the long arm of the law.

and the short dick heavy fisting of the Asian man who makes them his bitch in jail.

^FTFY 

[ElGrandJefe]

I, for one, would love to see Alex Sovu - alias Alex Berk - the tax evasion refugee rot in a Chinese jail for 15-20 years.

[notbatman]

I, for one, would love to see Alex Sovu - alias Alex Berk - the tax evasion refugee rot in a Chinese jail for 15-20 years.

It's cheaper to have them shot.  

...or better yet, put them to work assembling pre-order iphones for Apple then shoot them.

[notbatman]

How is this useless piece of shit company still operating?

They're breaking every fucking consumer protection and mail fraud law in the book!

[greenlion]

It doesn't make sense that they'd be silent about receiving a refund. Once the refund is sent, if you speak about it, it's not like black arrow can reverse the payment they sent you.

Unless the customer agrees to an NDA as a requirement to receiving the refund.

And then violate it. What then? They really going to expend resources to hunt you down and sue you? I find it highly unlikely.

Legendary asshole "Alexey A." has started even putting verbiage in his fuckhead generic replies suggesting that BA will sue you for libel for accusing them of scamming in private email correspondence to them (!) and that emailing them in any way whatsoever implies agreement with their terms.

[GPK260]

Well I'm posting this here for everyone to see -

I took my unit apart to send the hashboards back to Black Arrow - these unit have NEVER been plugged in and  on one of the hasboards i find this....

[DebitMe]

Well I'm posting this here for everyone to see -

I took my unit apart to send the hashboards back to Black Arrow - these unit have NEVER been plugged in and  on one of the hasboards i find this....


http://i61.tinypic.com/24fe8tu.jpg

http://i62.tinypic.com/2m3s8xj.jpg

That sure looks like there was a fire on that board, and the fact that you never plugged it in can only lead to one believing that they were being run at BA's facilities.  Add in the fact that they said that they are no longer testing customer machines and it looks like the lie that they have never run customer equipment has been overturned.

Perhaps that is an LED that doesn't need any power and is black and that is why the board looks burned...?

EDIT:  It would probably be a good idea for everyone to check their boards for obvious failures such as the above prior to plugging them in at all, that would probably have burned down GPK's house had he not checked the board and just plugged it in.

[notbatman]

Consider the fact that BA has taken a almost a year longer than its competitors to produce a 28nm miner. BA's original shipping date of February 24th 2014 set them up to enter the game late as KnC (now also a disreputable company) had shipped 28nm miners in October of 2013. Even then they missed their target date and didn't produce any hash boards until early May of 2014.

It's currently December 2014 and the few miners that have been shipped are absolute shit. They're exploding, bursting into flames and the software is buggy and useless. You want proof they're mining with our hardware produced in May of 2013 and by their own admission produced with power switching transistors that didn't have the safety mechanism removed, there you have it. An extra year to develop and produce a customer version of the miner and its the worst shit to be shipped out by any manufacturer.

These folks are criminals and like most criminals they don't give a shit while they mine millions worth of coins on customer hardware leaving the poor suckers who financed it all with nothing but a fire hazard. That's if you're among the lucky 8% to have actually received a miner so late it's obsolete.

We've paid for Michelangelo but after a year of waiting we find that you've hired a retarded monkey to throw shit against the chapel wall and pocketed the money we gave you. The smell of monkey shit is still fresh.

[GPK260]

Not  revealing who this was but....


 I just called the bank that the deposits are made in. It's called Metro Bank in London. I told them about the fraud and they freaked out... Everyone here should call that bank right away to make a complaint!! The more that call the faster things get shut down!

Bank number: +44 20 3402 8285.
Account numbers:
EUR Account Number: 13633018, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN: GB31MYMB23058013633018
USD Account number: 13633045, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN: GB78MYMB23058013633045
GBP Account Number: 13631317, Sort Code: 23-05-80, IBAN: GB77MYMB23058013631317
Company Name: Destino LIMITED

Call them now and make a complaint!!



I once had a call from  Daniel  who said he was nothing but a supplier to BA i asked why a supplier woudl let a  different company use their Bank accounts to make payments or represent them at shows.

I'm goign to call the bank in the morning even though i did'nt pay by that way it may be worth talking to them and letting them know what is going on.