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[FortuneJack]

FortuneJack, why I did not receive a bonus for the first deposit?

Hey, did you speak with supports team?

[xandry]

2) If you were aware beforehand that the game could've had bugs, then it was irresponsible on your part to allow users play with real money.

Why not? Nobody forces players, they test games voluntarily like gamers with pleasure plays in buggy demo shooters on PC for example. And by the way they plays on own real hardware and then send reports about bugs to developers.
Here the same but player decided don't send report about bug wich he found, he decided to cheat developers. It was detected and what... they gave him his money back and... bounty bonus! I consider that it is very than a kind gesture.

[verusfides]

Wrong decision. I don't see any reason why the player should pay for your negligence. Pay the man his money.

The Community was perfectly aware that the game was in advanced test regime, the bug bounty was actively promoted in community and we beforehand stated that game might have been bug prune.

That's the whole concept of community and community development of the product basically. We put the product online and say "We are introducing you a new product and would like you to contribute to its development" and we get lots of letters on how to improve and we improve it and reward players. That was our approach here as the game was new and provably fair and we considered that community that values communal spirit and decentralized approach will appreciate the attitude, as we came from here as well. The game had a bug, yes and as we learned about the bug, we naturally seized the bug winnings, because it is impossible to determine if the winnings were made from naivety or purposeful abuse of the bug and yes its a hard decision and its a very delicate situation, but there is nothing else we can do here.

Cheers,
David.

Lies, I can post several complaints where you guys stole deposits even when the forum owners who handled complaints asked you to return them. You all simply ignored them or their requests. You guys are scammers and borderline rogues. Like I said who in their right mind will deposit here and take a 40X bonus? This is clearly a ripoff...

In correlation to the bug money that was in play at the time of the wager. If you consider the deposit amount which was 0.009 and the total amount of the wager, which was 0.019 of the bugged money of 2 BTC there is roughly only 5 to 10% of the bug money at most that could've been used and 1 to 100% of my deposit that could've been used. At most you guys could claim a possible 5 percent of the winnings was from your bugged money but that is all you can't claim the whole winnings of a jackpot if you can't prove it was by your bugged money alone that this was possible.

[verusfides]

2) If you were aware beforehand that the game could've had bugs, then it was irresponsible on your part to allow users play with real money.

Why not? Nobody forces players, they test games voluntarily like gamers with pleasure plays in buggy demo shooters on PC for example. And by the way they plays on own real hardware and then send reports about bugs to developers.
Here the same but player decided don't send report about bug wich he found, he decided to cheat developers. It was detected and what... they gave him his money back and... bounty bonus! I consider that it is very than a kind gesture.

I didn't ask to be a part of their dummy testing. Why should we have to be subject to those bugs that we didn't want to be a part of. If it was clearly a test phase they wouldn't have allowed players to access it in all currencies and would have solely stuck with FJC use only during time of bug testing and trial. Seriously do you guys enjoy digging your graves? Everytime you talk about the game and it's the bug the more it's beginning to show company gross negligence from FortuneJack. You really have no reason to keep trying to defend yourself. The fact you let players test bugs with live currency shows you had no intention of releasing anyone's withdrawals that night. So I'm gonna ask you again. Why did you take my jackpot. You can't lie your way out of what you just made me realize and what all the players should have realized. We shouldn't have to be playing with our own money to find bugs for your company. We're not your employees. If this was all for the sake of finding bugs you would've never implemented real money to be put into play.

Now everyone on here can know 100% that you guys did this in fact to cut losses for that day. Don't fucking lie. I'm not gonna be nice about this anymore. You guys fucking did this intentionally and maliciously for the sake of preventing losses while trying to cover it up as a fucking company Easter hunt.

[adaseb]

You need to realise that bugs exist in software and sometimes the bug can be in your favour such as in a gambling environment but keep in mind that you didn't truthfully win those BTCs if there was some bug that resulted in your favour.

Last week when Bitfinex when down for maintenance as soon as they re-opened their site, there was a bug where every-bodies balance was 10x and some people tried actually withdrawing their entire balance since it was 1000% larger; did they honour those withdraws? No. They took the website down and fixed the bug and relaunched hours later. No bug bounties were paid either.

Similar situation happened with Primedice even a few years back. Some user HufflePuff found some exploit and ended up cheating and actually was quick enough to perform a withdraw before Primedice admins investigated and found the bug. Did they honour his withdraws afterwards? No. Because its against their policy.

I know you are upset because seeing a large bitcoin balance is exciting and can change your life depending on the circumstances but you need to realise that you didn't win them fairly like an actual gamble should be so your winnings are forfeited.

[verusfides]

You need to realise that bugs exist in software and sometimes the bug can be in your favour such as in a gambling environment but keep in mind that you didn't truthfully win those BTCs if there was some bug that resulted in your favour.

Last week when Bitfinex when down for maintenance as soon as they re-opened their site, there was a bug where every-bodies balance was 10x and some people tried actually withdrawing their entire balance since it was 1000% larger; did they honour those withdraws? No. They took the website down and fixed the bug and relaunched hours later. No bug bounties were paid either.

Similar situation happened with Primedice even a few years back. Some user HufflePuff found some exploit and ended up cheating and actually was quick enough to perform a withdraw before Primedice admins investigated and found the bug. Did they honour his withdraws afterwards? No. Because its against their policy.

I know you are upset because seeing a large bitcoin balance is exciting and can change your life depending on the circumstances but you need to realise that you didn't win them fairly like an actual gamble should be so your winnings are forfeited.

No. I will simply say this and you can stop acting like this isn't your fault. You had FJC for new releases and bugged games. Stop hiding behind your thin wall of lies it's really disgusting that this is the idealogy of a company who's foundation are the very players itself. You'd think eventually someone wouldn't question why exactly is it that you are allowing new releases with EVIDENT bugs to played with real currency? You're scapegoating the malfunctionings of a game to allow you to try and walk away scot free without looking back. Guess what Jack I ain't having that.

[verusfides]

You need to realise that bugs exist in software and sometimes the bug can be in your favour such as in a gambling environment but keep in mind that you didn't truthfully win those BTCs if there was some bug that resulted in your favour.

Last week when Bitfinex when down for maintenance as soon as they re-opened their site, there was a bug where every-bodies balance was 10x and some people tried actually withdrawing their entire balance since it was 1000% larger; did they honour those withdraws? No. They took the website down and fixed the bug and relaunched hours later. No bug bounties were paid either.

Similar situation happened with Primedice even a few years back. Some user HufflePuff found some exploit and ended up cheating and actually was quick enough to perform a withdraw before Primedice admins investigated and found the bug. Did they honour his withdraws afterwards? No. Because its against their policy.

I know you are upset because seeing a large bitcoin balance is exciting and can change your life depending on the circumstances but you need to realise that you didn't win them fairly like an actual gamble should be so your winnings are forfeited.

No. I will simply say this and you can stop acting like this isn't your fault. You had FJC for new releases and bugged games. Stop hiding behind your thin wall of lies it's really disgusting that this is the idealogy of a company who's foundation are the very players itself. You'd think eventually someone wouldn't question why exactly is it that you are allowing new releases with EVIDENT bugs to played with real currency? You're scapegoating the malfunctionings of a game to allow you to try and walk away scot free without looking back. Guess what Jack I ain't having that.

Also watch your damn mouth. I've proven I would've deposited more than what would have got me to that plinko wager regardless of the bug that was placed in affect. To neglect my deposits counting towards the deposits that would've been made should there have been no bug is disregarding the players wanted willingness to continually keep playing even after the whole debacle in the first place. If FortuneJack can prove even with all the deposits made after the jackpot was forfeited from me. Would not have gotten me to the jackpot then I would be more willing to oblige with your terms. However since that's is not the case I suggest your casino honors your terms of liability instead of finding anyway to misuse your own Terms and Conditions and only to define how they would best suit your companies needs. Get a grip. The more you guys fight this the more pathetic it looks that you now have multiple people trying to diffuse one person, but you can't because you guys can only rely on your one stupid rule that has such a huge loophole you could literally use it for anything. If someone won a jackpot on Plinko but there was a bug animation, you guys could exercise that rule to refuse payout. So how can we trust these kind of things wouldn't happen on a regular basis because you clearly haven't shown me any sign that you plan to maintain your websites other rules and accept consequence of refusing the jackpot. And maybe this is only the one time it happens and it may never happen again, but what if it does? Do we get to see this side of FortuneJack all over again? It's your rules that are flawed and tricky to the patrons that have to approach your staff in this sort of manner because you guys refuse to listen to reason in any other way. Yet even when nearly 80% of this community is against you and your twisted ideals, FortuneJack doesn't try to be friends or to understand the situation. They treat this as something that's out of their control because of the liability rule they created. If that's such a big problem for FortuneJack and it's preventing you morally from making the correct decision then idk hmm... maybe it's time for a change? I don't like being robbed, I'm sure you guys don't either but that's really all this is. Just a robbery in plain sight.                                                   

[raven7886]

Even tough it looks like fortunejack didn't pay him the money they owe thats not a regular game. Don't get me wrong if this happened in a regular game where they have listed for years and allowed people to gamble and than not pay someone that would have been horrible for them and you could see a huge attack back to them which would cause them to lose many of their wagered gamblers.

However, this was just a test run and I don't understand what people are trying to see on a test run, the logic that a half finished game should be giving you money is not something one should be expecting, you are gambling on a test game for the purposes of "testing" not for actually gambling. Why would they have to give someone money when the game has a bug in it, you think they have to because its their fault but than again not paying is their choice as well and they don't have to.

[verusfides]

Even tough it looks like fortunejack didn't pay him the money they owe thats not a regular game. Don't get me wrong if this happened in a regular game where they have listed for years and allowed people to gamble and than not pay someone that would have been horrible for them and you could see a huge attack back to them which would cause them to lose many of their wagered gamblers.

However, this was just a test run and I don't understand what people are trying to see on a test run, the logic that a half finished game should be giving you money is not something one should be expecting, you are gambling on a test game for the purposes of "testing" not for actually gambling. Why would they have to give someone money when the game has a bug in it, you think they have to because its their fault but than again not paying is their choice as well and they don't have to.

Let me clear something up for you. It was not the bugged game (which is called Adrenaline) I had won the jackpot in. The game I had won the jackpot in (which was a plinko game where the ball drops from the top and enters one of the multipliers to give you your total amount returned) came 13 hours after I had played on their newly released bugged game. However because of the game being bugged they removed the jackpot I had won and reclaimed it saying because of the bug the jackpot bet is void. This is a bug I knew nothing about nor did any of the other players. Furthermore the  FortuneJack representative states that this was a community event, but again this person is wrong. They announced the bug bounty for Plinko and Mines. They never once announced Adrenaline as part of this initiative.

[verusfides]

Even tough it looks like fortunejack didn't pay him the money they owe thats not a regular game. Don't get me wrong if this happened in a regular game where they have listed for years and allowed people to gamble and than not pay someone that would have been horrible for them and you could see a huge attack back to them which would cause them to lose many of their wagered gamblers.

However, this was just a test run and I don't understand what people are trying to see on a test run, the logic that a half finished game should be giving you money is not something one should be expecting, you are gambling on a test game for the purposes of "testing" not for actually gambling. Why would they have to give someone money when the game has a bug in it, you think they have to because its their fault but than again not paying is their choice as well and they don't have to.

Let me clear something up for you. It was not the bugged game (which is called Adrenaline) I had won the jackpot in. The game I had won the jackpot in (which was a plinko game where the ball drops from the top and enters one of the multipliers to give you your total amount returned) came 13 hours after I had played on their newly released bugged game. However because of the game being bugged they removed the jackpot I had won and reclaimed it saying because of the bug the jackpot bet is void. This is a bug I knew nothing about nor did any of the other players. Furthermore the  FortuneJack representative states that this was a community event, but again this person is wrong. They announced the bug bounty for Plinko and Mines. They never once announced Adrenaline as part of this initiative.

This is my original post regarding this incident.

Hello FortuneJack community my username is verusfides on the website known popularly as fortunejack.com. I am coming to  you today as a recent player on it's website who has not been paid my earnings and have been robbed because of a bug which occured on one of there games. Below is a full break down of the events that have occurred.

(TL;DR below)

Yesterday, I had made a small deposit to FortuneJack. They had recently sent me a notifcation asking to try a new game and I was intrigued. During the game I had accrued some amount of funds roughly amounting 2 BTC. I, in my belief was that I had acquired these winnings fairly without any fraudulent or illegal play. Later I try to make a small withdrawal of roughly a quarter of my winnings around .45 BTC, which then said was undergoing review. I thought everything was fine up till this point.

This is where it gets interesting. As the night progresses, I am still on the site gambling for nearly 8 hours, eventually heading over to there plinko page. I keep playing and playing and then the jackpot hit. You should understand I was literally speechless when this happened. It was a payout of 20 BTC.

About 15 minutes later however, all the funds in my account were subtracted and later they had claimed that my winnings on Adrenaline were obtained due to a bug, and that they therefore would have to penalize ALL the money I acquired. Clearly this is unjustifiable. Even if the winnings I won in Adrenaline were from a bug. I had been on the casino website for nearly 8 hours. I am sure I have wagered over 10000x my initial deposit.  Even if the casino were to claim that I won a small amount from a bug, the plinko bet was won fair and square. They even know this because they have nothing to say about it, but simply because of the Adrenaline game which THEY advertised me to play, they are refusing my winnings. I am coming to the community here today to see what they have to say about this. I am being robbed for playing a game they had suggested to me?

TL;DR Won a total of 22 BTC -20 from Plinko jackpot 1000x and 2 from Adrenaline. Fortunejack siezed all earnings claiming a bug from the game Adrenaline which was advertised by them.

[FortuneJack]

Posting here again to update on Verusfides Case. As promised we decided to make more files public and to cut it short, we decided to make all records public. Here in this document, you see the whole betting history of the player from the beginning of the play on Adrenaline, where the bug affected his winnings to the alleged jackpot win on Plinko.

See Betting history from Verusfides here ==>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11r_GqS-eVadHHJxRAdCaVSqqBosQWz4y98F48CyvvPs/edit#gid=492165691

After making a deposit of 9.4mBTC  in sum player started to play Adrenaline game on our website. As we already said, the game was first tested in public in those days, and FortuneJack made an official announcement on it as well. We offered players a bug bounty as a gesture that we care and listen to our community and wanted to make all this game development process a community thing as well, so just put the game out and challenged players to find bugs in it.

At some point of the game, severe bug affected the play of some players online at that very moment. This is the moment when player Verusfides set auto cash out on 60. As you see from his bet history game starts to bug, and every bet turns out to be won and player suddenly after realizing this firstly doubles the bet and continues to play the bugged game and after 20 minutes or so raises auto cash out from 60 to 200 continuing to stream money from the bugged game. As you see in history, every single bet is won, and I am talking about 70 consecutive bets. I have already posted the formula making us think that the game was bugged. In the usual cases of winning Win Amount equals of Bet Amount multiplied on RealBPS. WinAmount = BetAmount × RealBPS, here it was all out of control. It does not require rocket science to conclude that the game had suffered a significant bug. And this is not an only player effected from the bug; actually, we learned about the bug from players, who wrote to our support that game was doing funny things and asked us to check it out.

We found the bug and improved it as soon as we could, it took time to determine all the players affected, some of them willingly wrote us themselves and gave the money back and have received a bug bounty, because, I don't know, every player knows that no casino on earth will issue a bug winning. Yes, this is unfortunate accident, but things like this happen, games sometimes are affected by bugs, and we improve it and issue bug bounty and go on.

But Verusfides continued to play, as you see from his game history and he moves on Plinko where alleged jackpot win has happened. 3 Hours after finishing playing on adrenaline Player moves to Plinko, where starts bets with 0.1mBTC and raising money from time-to-time, finally reaching a single bet of 25.6mBTC. In sum, the player had made more than 5 000 bets before reaching a point when the jackpot was won.

Firstly, as the discussion arose to this, there is no chance that player would have made 5 000 bets with this amount on a single bet with his deposit of 9.4mBTC, please review the betting history as a proof of this.

Secondly, this is not even a subject of discussion, as the win made from the bug abuse on our website has triggered a point in our T&C: Bets and any winnings made during malfunctioning of a game shall be void. Any subsequent Games or Services that you participate in with funds obtained from a malfunctioning Game shall also be void.

Thirdly, a player was communicated with this matters several times and at some point, has accepted to get Large Bug Bounty, which is 0.2btc, got his deposit back and also got 30 Free Spins with minimum x2 Wagering because, to be honest, I liked the guy and thought  giving him some additional bonus because of the trouble would have been a nice gesture. But after losing the amount he got from Casino, he started to ask for the money again.

We certainly can not continue with this, from files now made public, it's evident that player got winnings from bug money and rules are entirely clear with this - company has right to seize bug winnings.

Cheers,
David.

[simplejg]

David,

I sent you a PM regarding a few friends of mine that have been complaining to me about the New Years Eve mystery box that FJ gave out to everybody - apparently they were never able to play the free spins that they received due to some error when they went to activate them and your live chat support has continually given them some generic "our technical support team is looking into this" line for over 2 weeks now. Could you look into it for me so I can get them off my back or at least put their minds at ease? Thanks!

[FortuneJack]

David,

I sent you a PM regarding a few friends of mine that have been complaining to me about the New Years Eve mystery box that FJ gave out to everybody - apparently they were never able to play the free spins that they received due to some error when they went to activate them and your live chat support has continually given them some generic "our technical support team is looking into this" line for over 2 weeks now. Could you look into it for me so I can get them off my back or at least put their minds at ease? Thanks!

I received it and replayed back, will do my best to help you in clearing out the situation for sure.

Cheers,
david.

[StarterX]

Today i opened 2 tickets about my 2 bonus issues


1st issue.

Today i received an email from FortuneJack, NO-DEPOSIT BONUS of 0.00253464 BTC, But when i tried to Claim it, the page redirect to me at Balance page. I'm not able to claim it.

Screenshot: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547539615.509867.png


2nd Bonus issue

1st Bonus activated and i received BONUS AMOUNT: 4295.99949788 XDG, But it was failed after i received Bonus amount, but i did not place any bet.

Screenshot of amount: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547541869.08564166.png

( 1st Bonus Valid Until date: 2019-01-25 ) then why my bonus failed today? even i did not placed any single bet.


2nd Bonus was failed during the activation time and did not received any amount from 2nd bonus.

( 2nd Bonus Valid Until date 2019-01-29 ) Also failed today, even i did not received Bonus amount.

Here is the support screenshot:

http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547540079.03874311.png

http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547540112.34887939.png

In support screenshot, you can clearly see this that 2 and 3 bonus.

In second Line The "Just Because" Bonus Bonus was failed on my side but on support side 2nd bonus was not activate. ( Check Bonus Valid Date on support screenshot )

In third line The "Just Because" Bonus Bonus activated on my side and as well as on support side, But it was failed after i received Bonus amount and but i did not place any bet. ( Check Bonus Valid Date on support screenshot  )

Screenshot Attached: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547535578.7673686.png




They closed all my tickets without a single response.

http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547541548.92696708.png

[verusfides]

Posting here again to update on Verusfides Case. As promised we decided to make more files public and to cut it short, we decided to make all records public. Here in this document, you see the whole betting history of the player from the beginning of the play on Adrenaline, where the bug affected his winnings to the alleged jackpot win on Plinko.

See Betting history from Verusfides here ==>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11r_GqS-eVadHHJxRAdCaVSqqBosQWz4y98F48CyvvPs/edit#gid=492165691

After making a deposit of 9.4mBTC  in sum player started to play Adrenaline game on our website. As we already said, the game was first tested in public in those days, and FortuneJack made an official announcement on it as well. We offered players a bug bounty as a gesture that we care and listen to our community and wanted to make all this game development process a community thing as well, so just put the game out and challenged players to find bugs in it.

At some point of the game, severe bug affected the play of some players online at that very moment. This is the moment when player Verusfides set auto cash out on 60. As you see from his bet history game starts to bug, and every bet turns out to be won and player suddenly after realizing this firstly doubles the bet and continues to play the bugged game and after 20 minutes or so raises auto cash out from 60 to 200 continuing to stream money from the bugged game. As you see in history, every single bet is won, and I am talking about 70 consecutive bets. I have already posted the formula making us think that the game was bugged. In the usual cases of winning Win Amount equals of Bet Amount multiplied on RealBPS. WinAmount = BetAmount × RealBPS, here it was all out of control. It does not require rocket science to conclude that the game had suffered a significant bug. And this is not an only player effected from the bug; actually, we learned about the bug from players, who wrote to our support that game was doing funny things and asked us to check it out.

We found the bug and improved it as soon as we could, it took time to determine all the players affected, some of them willingly wrote us themselves and gave the money back and have received a bug bounty, because, I don't know, every player knows that no casino on earth will issue a bug winning. Yes, this is unfortunate accident, but things like this happen, games sometimes are affected by bugs, and we improve it and issue bug bounty and go on.

But Verusfides continued to play, as you see from his game history and he moves on Plinko where alleged jackpot win has happened. 3 Hours after finishing playing on adrenaline Player moves to Plinko, where starts bets with 0.1mBTC and raising money from time-to-time, finally reaching a single bet of 25.6mBTC. In sum, the player had made more than 5 000 bets before reaching a point when the jackpot was won.

Firstly, as the discussion arose to this, there is no chance that player would have made 5 000 bets with this amount on a single bet with his deposit of 9.4mBTC, please review the betting history as a proof of this.

Secondly, this is not even a subject of discussion, as the win made from the bug abuse on our website has triggered a point in our T&C: Bets and any winnings made during malfunctioning of a game shall be void. Any subsequent Games or Services that you participate in with funds obtained from a malfunctioning Game shall also be void.

Thirdly, a player was communicated with this matters several times and at some point, has accepted to get Large Bug Bounty, which is 0.2btc, got his deposit back and also got 30 Free Spins with minimum x2 Wagering because, to be honest, I liked the guy and thought  giving him some additional bonus because of the trouble would have been a nice gesture. But after losing the amount he got from Casino, he started to ask for the money again.

We certainly can not continue with this, from files now made public, it's evident that player got winnings from bug money and rules are entirely clear with this - company has right to seize bug winnings.

Cheers,
David.

You're joking right. You want to defend yourself like that? Where did you get 3 hours from David? Also yes I set those amounts because I thought those were automatic payouts when you have won the amount. I thought the times amount was 60 and then moved to 200 because I didn't see any signs of losing. Are you going to make me post every transaction between the Plinko bet and Adrenaline bet? Here I'll show you everything. If I have to prove every transaction in each slot I'll show that as well. You're really full of it. Further more, you want to claim you let users know about the bugs in Adrenaline? I don't think you're in a sober state of mind anymore to claim such a thing when you have visual proof on your Reddit explaining there were bug bounties currently available at the time for your new MINE and PLINKO game. WHERE do you ever mention Adrenaline? You really better stop falsely accusing a player of any fucking misdeed when you're showing false evidence to the community and lying to them. Seriously I wouldn't normally curse but where the fuck do you even have the nerve to act like this? If the community would like proof follow this hyperlink and read the damn title. https://www.reddit.com/r/FortuneJackCasino/comments/a400vp/bug_bounty_we_will_give_you_bitcoins_for_finding/ Allow me to show you real evidence that you can't hide from people. Then justify to everyone on here why you just lied on behalf of FortuneJack.

This person has claimed I jumped immediately from Adrenaline to Plinko in the span of three hours with the initial deposit and bug money in hand. Here are three simultaneous transaction logs paged from 21-19 with the number 21 being the latest. I have circle the starting bet, and the jackpot wager, and have underlined the removal of funds. Time line goes Left to Right starting from Bottom to Top respectively. He said 3 hours did he not? He said I jumped simply from Adrenaline to Plinko did he not? He claimed they had community posts about Adrenaline the game having a bug did he not? I don't think you should represent your company anymore. Really, however you acted towards peoples mediation in the past might have been phenomenal but, your half-assed lack of proof your half-assed research of the funds used and your lack of respect towards me to hide you and your companies backside is really humiliating to say the least.



Please everyone look at the image I have provided and confirm yourself the lies that this man is trying to spread to defend his Casino's actions.

What research took your staff so long that I did in the span of 30 minutes. I'm literally so dumbfounded by what you said I feel so bad that your own casino can't feed your correct information for you to relay back to your community that you are trying to look good for. Anyways moving on.

In this next post I will provide deposits that were made immediately after the management of FortuneJack stripped me of my winnings to prove to the community that in fact I would have gotten to this bet without the bugged money. I am just simply a player who does not like to deposit a gross amount of funds all at once and like to divide them into sections to try to limit my gambling habit. Please note that ALL deposits were made subsequently back to back to back to back to back. Showing even more likelihood that I would have gotten to that Plinko game no matter what kind of bug they try to blame.



Lastly I'd like to hear why you insist on lying to the players and the community respectively. You did nothing to prevent such events from occurring. Would you still have us believe that you did not do this with the inclination of reversing everyone's winnings that day?  How about you show us the logs of every persons deposit you altered that night. Tell me this the not all seem fishy to all the players out there.

[verusfides]

Also lastly since you're so keen about showing information to the players. I'd like to inform them of how hard it is to hit a 1000x Plinko bet.

Based on the fundamentals of Binomial Expansion, here is the probability of how likely you are to land in each of the outcomes listed on 16 pin Plinko.

1  •  16  •  120  •  560  •  1820  •  4368  •  8008  •  11440  •  12870  •  11440  •  8008  •  4368  •  1820  •  560  •  120  •  16  •  1

Total = 65536
Odds of 1000x = 2 / 65536 = 1 / 32768

Percentage wise your chance of hitting a bet like this is 0.00305175781%.

Yet they want to justify 0.2 BTC return and 30 free spins as the highest return they can hope to compensate for. It has to be pretty embarrassing to anyone's standards that your casino can't seem to cover it's own tracks much less know left or right to act professionally toward it's community and the players that reside in them.

[DarkStar_]

FortuneJack's Adrenaline game is not provably fair. I would recommend avoiding it until FortuneJack responds, especially if you play larger stakes.

The bust points are provably predetermined, but there's nothing that requires them to have a degree of randomness or keep true to their 2% edge. This is how the system works: (screenshot)

How is the drawing done and what is a provably fair credibility code?
The server is pre-generated with the next 10 drawing with its maximum winning point (BPS) and unique code. Each drawing code is produced by the following 3 components
● Drawing number
● Maximum winning point of the drawing (BPS)
● Unique combination of randomly generated symbols
The unique code is produced by algorithm sha256 by merging these 3 components
For example: if the drawing number is 012345, the maximum profit point of the same drawing is 5.63 and the unique number of the drawing is a1bscasca1231
The drawing code will have the following format: x12341241

This is what the "provably fair" section looks like. It's a list of hashes and the hashed value.

Basically, how it works is that they generate the next 10 bust points before they happen, and combine it with a random hash as well as the game ID. For example, for game #148861, they would give the hash of the game ahead of time:

Code:

AA52E6C67BE59C21380DA5642942CB6237308FC249CB06DC554D961B0AB695C6

Once the game has been played, they reveal the unhashed value:

Code:

148861:2.98:d2c5059f-6b0b-4120-96fd-63d9c17271c4

I have four issues with this setup:

1. Each bust point is supposedly randomly generated, however this can't be proved. We only know that the result was predetermined. We can't know that the result was generated fairly. Each bust point is independent of the previous bust points (unlike how bustabit works, which uses hash chains). FortuneJack can easily cheat and the game can still verify as "provably fair". If there is a whale playing the game, the next 10 bust points might be legitimately randomly generated, but after that, FortuneJack can purposely provide hashes that are lower than they should. Is the whale constantly cashing out above 2x? FortuneJack can feed them bust points always below 2x, and it would still appear as "provably fair". However, this is clearly not fair.

bustabit counters this by using a chain of hashes. RHavar generated 10 million hashes, and posted the last one publicly. The 1st hash is used to generate the first bust point. The second hash is generated by hashing the first hash, and it is used to calculate the first bust point. He also used the hash of a future Bitcoin block as the seed, to ensure he did not generate a hash with a higher house edge.

FortuneJack has no proof of randomness in their provably fair. RollinCoin (scam) used a very similar system, and kolloh's response perfectly points out the issue:

The results of the bets are not generated in a manner that provides proof to the house edge. The results are arbitrary and the hashes show the results of the precalculated result.

NLNico (arguably one of the top minds in the provably fair gambling space) agrees:

Added negative trust.

People should realize that their "provably fair" implementation is already not provably fair anyway. They could literally show 10000s of hashes where the string is "Lose:......" and claim it's provably fair because the hash is the same. That is not how provably fair works.

Somehow, with such a crappy bad non-"provably fair" implementation, they still managed to cheat it extra - by changing the hash. That is like almost impressive. <- unrelated to FortuneJack situation

Please ignore such sites.

If I was FortuneJack and a whale started playing, I am able to give them only 10 rounds that are fair, and feed them hashes with low bust values after the 10. A big whale, baaaitcoin played 884 rounds on bustabit (with that account. IIRC they made multiple), and bet on average 10.85BTC per bet. If they played on FortuneJack, FJ could have manipulated all of the bust points after the first 10 rounds to have lower bust points than they should, causing baaaitcoin to go bankrupt very quickly. Something like this could have been given:

Code:

148852:1.21:cf13f713-8d0b-4268-8c5e-dc7f088a5540 // should have been 5.01, modified to 1.21
148851:1.17:4e7da20e-07e7-47a6-816d-3b021f3c3dd5 // should have been 41.88, modified to 1.17
148850:1.37:f8c08863-c87d-4df6-961d-5d29d21aa6b0 // should have been 4.47, modified to 1.37
148849:1.00:99920d7f-b197-4740-9291-58fd8128eb2b // should have been 1.87, modified to 1.00
148848:1.25:aa5f0f49-c16a-491c-a985-a297cbad1bde
148847:1.37:1a2396eb-fe8b-499e-8492-7f42c3b5a294
148846:1.34:1c87a433-0153-44a3-8f62-7774097c1c4b
<insert 10 legit hashes>

If baaaitcoin was aiming for multipliers above 1.38, that's an easy 70BTC in profit for FortuneJack. And the best part is, the games would verify as provably fair. I don't know if FortuneJack did this to cheat anyone, and I can't download the ~148k bust points from games played to see if the bust points hover near a 2% house edge. I don't think they cheated anyone (most likely incompetence), but any system that allows a casino to undetectably cheat is not provably fair.


2. There is no history for prior games available as far as I know. The provably fair list given only shows the last 19 game results. No available prior bust history combined with no proof of random bust points means that it is impossible for the community to verify that the bust points deviate around the x1.98 bust point (based off of 2% house edge). For all we know, the game code could be set to generate bust points with an average at x1.8, which would significantly increase the house edge. There is no way for the player to even attempt the verify that the game is fair.

3. Even if the game history is provided, and the bust points deviate from x1.98, FortuneJack could simply fill in some very high bust points when no one is playing the game. The chance that someone would join the game and play in 10 rounds is low, and the chance that the player who joined would be chasing a very high multiplier is even lower. This could allow them to have the bust points deviate from a higher bust point when no one is playing, and a lower bust point when someone is playing. This gives them fully undetectable "provably fair" where they can easily cheat.

4. Let's pretend they do have a legitimate bust value generation in the background, and can provide a hash chain + seed that gives all of the bust points. Let's also pretend that we have access to the full game history that has no chance of being modified. There is still an issue with this: they did not post a hash chain publicly and find the seed in a fair way. They can easily manipulate this to give themselves a much higher edge. RHavar explains how in this post. This leaves them with no way of proving that all bust points were generated fairly in the backend.

However, it's much more likely that they're using a Math.random(); in the backend which they can freely modify.


Summary
There is no proof that bust points are generated to only have a 2% house edge. FortuneJack can very easily manipulate the bust points for each round, if they do it 10 rounds prior and there is no way to detect this. This essentially allows them to cheat, with 'provably fair' still showing the game was fair. NLNico, owner of DiceSites.com and one of the most well known people in the provably fair space suggests to "ignore such sites."

They should fix this by copying a working provably fair system, like the one bustabit uses.

TLDR: Read bolded lines

[StarterX]

Today i opened 2 tickets about my 2 bonus issues


1st issue.

Today i received an email from FortuneJack, NO-DEPOSIT BONUS of 0.00253464 BTC, But when i tried to Claim it, the page redirect to me at Balance page. I'm not able to claim it.

Screenshot: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547539615.509867.png


2nd Bonus issue

1st Bonus activated and i received BONUS AMOUNT: 4295.99949788 XDG, But it was failed after i received Bonus amount, but i did not place any bet.

Screenshot of amount: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547541869.08564166.png

( 1st Bonus Valid Until date: 2019-01-25 ) then why my bonus failed today? even i did not placed any single bet.


2nd Bonus was failed during the activation time and did not received any amount from 2nd bonus.

( 2nd Bonus Valid Until date 2019-01-29 ) Also failed today, even i did not received Bonus amount.

Here is the support screenshot:

http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547540079.03874311.png

http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547540112.34887939.png

In support screenshot, you can clearly see this that 2 and 3 bonus.

In second Line The "Just Because" Bonus Bonus was failed on my side but on support side 2nd bonus was not activate. ( Check Bonus Valid Date on support screenshot )

In third line The "Just Because" Bonus Bonus activated on my side and as well as on support side, But it was failed after i received Bonus amount and but i did not place any bet. ( Check Bonus Valid Date on support screenshot  )

Screenshot Attached: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547535578.7673686.png




They closed all my tickets without a single response.

http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547541548.92696708.png

Today they removed both The "Just Because" Bonus ( 1 BTC) from my Bonus list without any response on my ticket. i don't know why the are doing this, but this is seems suspicious.

Weekly Deposit Bonus still activate in my bonus list, but the Both NO-Deposit bonus The "Just Because" Bonus ( worth of 1 BTC) was removed from mu bonus list.

Today screenshot:  https://imgur.com/usaNoLF

Yesterday screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/1Rzs8nP

what would i do if the both bonus was end?.

( 1st Bonus Valid Until date: 2019-01-25 ) ( 9 days left )

( 2nd Bonus Valid Until date 2019-01-29 )  ( 13 days left )

[FortuneJack]

FortuneJack's Adrenaline game is not provably fair. I would recommend avoiding it until FortuneJack responds, especially if you play larger stakes.

The bust points are provably predetermined, but there's nothing that requires them to have a degree of randomness or keep true to their 2% edge. This is how the system works: (screenshot)

How is the drawing done and what is a provably fair credibility code?
The server is pre-generated with the next 10 drawing with its maximum winning point (BPS) and unique code. Each drawing code is produced by the following 3 components
● Drawing number
● Maximum winning point of the drawing (BPS)
● Unique combination of randomly generated symbols
The unique code is produced by algorithm sha256 by merging these 3 components
For example: if the drawing number is 012345, the maximum profit point of the same drawing is 5.63 and the unique number of the drawing is a1bscasca1231
The drawing code will have the following format: x12341241

This is what the "provably fair" section looks like. It's a list of hashes and the hashed value.

Basically, how it works is that they generate the next 10 bust points before they happen, and combine it with a random hash as well as the game ID. For example, for game #148861, they would give the hash of the game ahead of time:

Code:

AA52E6C67BE59C21380DA5642942CB6237308FC249CB06DC554D961B0AB695C6

Once the game has been played, they reveal the unhashed value:

Code:

148861:2.98:d2c5059f-6b0b-4120-96fd-63d9c17271c4

I have four issues with this setup:

1. Each bust point is supposedly randomly generated, however this can't be proved. We only know that the result was predetermined. We can't know that the result was generated fairly. Each bust point is independent of the previous bust points (unlike how bustabit works, which uses hash chains). FortuneJack can easily cheat and the game can still verify as "provably fair". If there is a whale playing the game, the next 10 bust points might be legitimately randomly generated, but after that, FortuneJack can purposely provide hashes that are lower than they should. Is the whale constantly cashing out above 2x? FortuneJack can feed them bust points always below 2x, and it would still appear as "provably fair". However, this is clearly not fair.

bustabit counters this by using a chain of hashes. RHavar generated 10 million hashes, and posted the last one publicly. The 1st hash is used to generate the first bust point. The second hash is generated by hashing the first hash, and it is used to calculate the first bust point. He also used the hash of a future Bitcoin block as the seed, to ensure he did not generate a hash with a higher house edge.

FortuneJack has no proof of randomness in their provably fair. RollinCoin (scam) used a very similar system, and kolloh's response perfectly points out the issue:

The results of the bets are not generated in a manner that provides proof to the house edge. The results are arbitrary and the hashes show the results of the precalculated result.

NLNico (arguably one of the top minds in the provably fair gambling space) agrees:

Added negative trust.

People should realize that their "provably fair" implementation is already not provably fair anyway. They could literally show 10000s of hashes where the string is "Lose:......" and claim it's provably fair because the hash is the same. That is not how provably fair works.

Somehow, with such a crappy bad non-"provably fair" implementation, they still managed to cheat it extra - by changing the hash. That is like almost impressive. <- unrelated to FortuneJack situation

Please ignore such sites.

If I was FortuneJack and a whale started playing, I am able to give them only 10 rounds that are fair, and feed them hashes with low bust values after the 10. A big whale, baaaitcoin played 884 rounds on bustabit (with that account. IIRC they made multiple), and bet on average 10.85BTC per bet. If they played on FortuneJack, FJ could have manipulated all of the bust points after the first 10 rounds to have lower bust points than they should, causing baaaitcoin to go bankrupt very quickly. Something like this could have been given:

Code:

148852:1.21:cf13f713-8d0b-4268-8c5e-dc7f088a5540 // should have been 5.01, modified to 1.21
148851:1.17:4e7da20e-07e7-47a6-816d-3b021f3c3dd5 // should have been 41.88, modified to 1.17
148850:1.37:f8c08863-c87d-4df6-961d-5d29d21aa6b0 // should have been 4.47, modified to 1.37
148849:1.00:99920d7f-b197-4740-9291-58fd8128eb2b // should have been 1.87, modified to 1.00
148848:1.25:aa5f0f49-c16a-491c-a985-a297cbad1bde
148847:1.37:1a2396eb-fe8b-499e-8492-7f42c3b5a294
148846:1.34:1c87a433-0153-44a3-8f62-7774097c1c4b
<insert 10 legit hashes>

If baaaitcoin was aiming for multipliers above 1.38, that's an easy 70BTC in profit for FortuneJack. And the best part is, the games would verify as provably fair. I don't know if FortuneJack did this to cheat anyone, and I can't download the ~148k bust points from games played to see if the bust points hover near a 2% house edge. I don't think they cheated anyone (most likely incompetence), but any system that allows a casino to undetectably cheat is not provably fair.


2. There is no history for prior games available as far as I know. The provably fair list given only shows the last 19 game results. No available prior bust history combined with no proof of random bust points means that it is impossible for the community to verify that the bust points deviate around the x1.98 bust point (based off of 2% house edge). For all we know, the game code could be set to generate bust points with an average at x1.8, which would significantly increase the house edge. There is no way for the player to even attempt the verify that the game is fair.

3. Even if the game history is provided, and the bust points deviate from x1.98, FortuneJack could simply fill in some very high bust points when no one is playing the game. The chance that someone would join the game and play in 10 rounds is low, and the chance that the player who joined would be chasing a very high multiplier is even lower. This could allow them to have the bust points deviate from a higher bust point when no one is playing, and a lower bust point when someone is playing. This gives them fully undetectable "provably fair" where they can easily cheat.

4. Let's pretend they do have a legitimate bust value generation in the background, and can provide a hash chain + seed that gives all of the bust points. Let's also pretend that we have access to the full game history that has no chance of being modified. There is still an issue with this: they did not post a hash chain publicly and find the seed in a fair way. They can easily manipulate this to give themselves a much higher edge. RHavar explains how in this post. This leaves them with no way of proving that all bust points were generated fairly in the backend.

However, it's much more likely that they're using a Math.random(); in the backend which they can freely modify.


Summary
There is no proof that bust points are generated to only have a 2% house edge. FortuneJack can very easily manipulate the bust points for each round, if they do it 10 rounds prior and there is no way to detect this. This essentially allows them to cheat, with 'provably fair' still showing the game was fair. NLNico, owner of DiceSites.com and one of the most well known people in the provably fair space suggests to "ignore such sites."

They should fix this by copying a working provably fair system, like the one bustabit uses.

TLDR: Read bolded lines

This is a serious examination and thank you for making it, I will send this to game provider to discuss it with game developers and get back to you with response.

Cheers,
David.

[FortuneJack]

Today i opened 2 tickets about my 2 bonus issues


1st issue.

Today i received an email from FortuneJack, NO-DEPOSIT BONUS of 0.00253464 BTC, But when i tried to Claim it, the page redirect to me at Balance page. I'm not able to claim it.

Screenshot: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547539615.509867.png


2nd Bonus issue

1st Bonus activated and i received BONUS AMOUNT: 4295.99949788 XDG, But it was failed after i received Bonus amount, but i did not place any bet.

Screenshot of amount: http://myprintscreen.com/s/1547541869.08564166.png

( 1st Bonus Valid Until date: 2019-01-25 ) then why my bonus failed today? even i did not placed any single bet.


2nd Bonus was failed during the activation time and did not received any amount from 2nd bonus.

( 2nd Bonus Valid Until date 2019-01-29 ) Also failed today, even i did not received Bonus amount.

Here is the support screenshot:





In support screenshot, you can clearly see this that 2 and 3 bonus.

In second Line The "Just Because" Bonus Bonus was failed on my side but on support side 2nd bonus was not activate. ( Check Bonus Valid Date on support screenshot )

In third line The "Just Because" Bonus Bonus activated on my side and as well as on support side, But it was failed after i received Bonus amount and but i did not place any bet. ( Check Bonus Valid Date on support screenshot  )

Screenshot Attached:




They closed all my tickets without a single response.

Today they removed both The "Just Because" Bonus ( 1 BTC) from my Bonus list without any response on my ticket. i don't know why the are doing this, but this is seems suspicious.

Weekly Deposit Bonus still activate in my bonus list, but the Both NO-Deposit bonus The "Just Because" Bonus ( worth of 1 BTC) was removed from mu bonus list.

Today screenshot:  

Yesterday screenshot:

what would i do if the both bonus was end?.

( 1st Bonus Valid Until date: 2019-01-25 ) ( 9 days left )

( 2nd Bonus Valid Until date 2019-01-29 )  ( 13 days left )

Checking this, will get back to you soon as well ^^

UPDATE: Your first Bonus was void because you have activated second bonus and the second bonus was void manually, maybe you tried to get back to first one and that didn't work or stopped playing and moved to dice and that was an issue. anyways, there was some technical issues and bonuses turned out to be void, but you do not have to pay for this for sure. You will be reached by our supports team and they will restore your bonus manually. Please, log in on your FJ account, so supports team could talk to you today.

Cheers,
David.