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March 10, 2015, 03:24:24 AM
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It appears that Blockchain and Blocktrail both are not reporting an orphan at that height yet.
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March 10, 2015, 03:33:19 AM
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It appears that Blockchain and Blocktrail both are not reporting an orphan at that height yet.

FYI

After our last orphan this pool went on a BLOCK rampage.

If I remember we had +1% of network of blocks found with much less hash rate.
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March 10, 2015, 03:36:30 AM
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There was about 50 minutes between the next block and apparent orphan does that necessarily mean that one pool/miner found it first, or that it was recorder by a node that block in question was solved by another an then the other miner was the right order. Are there any time stamps involved, I would guess no? Also, I know I am getting way off here... but, what does "first relayed by" mean exactly?

Sorry for getting a bit off topic :/


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March 10, 2015, 05:41:18 AM
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There was about 50 minutes between the next block and apparent orphan does that necessarily mean that one pool/miner found it first, or that it was recorder by a node that block in question was solved by another an then the other miner was the right order. Are there any time stamps involved, I would guess no? Also, I know I am getting way off here... but, what does "first relayed by" mean exactly?

Sorry for getting a bit off topic :/
On blockchain you are looking at unreliable information that they put up and pretend it is reliable.
"first relayed" by is the IP address that blockchain got it from.

Remember, blockchain is nothing more than another node on the bitcoin network.
Blocks and transactions get passed around the network, one after the other as they spread around the world.
Most people are not connected to blockchain, so blockchain gets most of their information 2nd, 3rd, 4th ... etc... hand.

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March 10, 2015, 09:33:19 AM
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My question is what happens to the share count on a orphan block? Is the count thrown out and restarts over or are they still counted?
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March 10, 2015, 09:55:07 AM
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My question is what happens to the share count on a orphan block? Is the count thrown out and restarts over or are they still counted?
The block share count restarts.
Everything else counts it as if there was no block - i.e. there'll be no payout and (soon) the rewards will disappear.
The new block stats (that I'm working on) also treat it correctly that way - as does the total at the bottom of the current blocks web page.
Edit: of course the actual shares count everywhere as if they are part of the next block that will be found - but that doesn't show that way on the blocks page since it shows the actual orphan separately.

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March 10, 2015, 07:40:08 PM
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347038 looks to be staying here...

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March 10, 2015, 08:28:42 PM
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347038 looks to be staying here...
Hey! I was soo close!! (Lol I'm right on top of your name on the stats list).

Also, what is the <Workers> -> <Shifts> for? What does it show?

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March 10, 2015, 08:48:27 PM
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347038 looks to be staying here...
Hey! I was soo close!! (Lol I'm right on top of your name on the stats list).

Also, what is the <Workers> -> <Shifts> for? What does it show?

Yeah... I've had my 6 S3s pointed here for a while (I've still got 2 on p2pool).  If I had the 8 of them here, I'd be a bit higher up the list Smiley.

As far as shifts, that shows you how you've been doing for each of the shifts.  We keep talking about PPLNS being about the last N shares - which it is - but Kano (and BTC Guild, and GHash and others) also use the concept of shifts as well.  In a nutshell, they're used to simplify the amount of data crunching necessary.  I'll let Kano explain in more detail about how the shifts are utilized to determine payouts here.

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March 10, 2015, 11:19:50 PM
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Payout 346912 (finally) sent
725676dfd3128f568f0dcee2d74addc5caa9b2bce4871506ff637b7e48c940d8
and confirmed about 50 minutes ago.

Regarding shifts:
I'll write a long complicated description coz ... well ... not sure how else to describe it Smiley

Currently the pool gets about 50 million shares a day
Obviously you can't store each share individually anywhere useful - too much data.
So instead the data is summarised.

These are the shifts.

OK now a long version:
ckpool itself gives out work to miners based on a template from bitcoind
We call this a workinfo (that has a unique workinfoid)
ckpool gets a new one every 30 seconds and also every time a new block is found on the network.

The shares ckdb gets from ckpool, it groups them under the workinfoid per worker - called a sharesummary
So that firstly means that the number of sharesummaries a day is ~2880 * workers

These are like mini-shifts ~30 seconds long.

Next ckdb groups every ~100 sharesummaries together into a markersummary (that has a range of workinfoid's defined in a workmarker)
It's not always 100, since it has to stop whenever the pool finds a block and it stops at the point if ckpool restarts.
So now we are down to about ~29 * workers markersummaries a day that are also stored in permanent DB storage.

These are shifts ~50 minutes long.

Workmarkers are defined by 2 consecutive marks that specify a workinfoid range.
These marks are the shift end points as shown on the Shifts page.
A workmarker range is the first workinfoid after the previous shift mark to the end of the current shift mark.
The unique names for shifts include a name at the end to ensure they are unique.
They only had to be a letter, but for fun I decided to give each letter a female anime character name Smiley

When a payout is generated, it has to count back shares from the block until it reaches or exceeds the payout limit (at the moment 500%)
It can't stop at exactly the limit since the shares aren't individually stored.
It must stop at the start of a workmarker i.e. the start of a shift, and include all shares in the shift, since that's the only point to stop that's fair to all workers.
This, of course, is due to the fact that a shift has shares ranging over the 50 minutes of the workmarker range, so if one markersummary for a given workmarker is included, all markersummaries for the given workmarker have to be included.

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March 11, 2015, 12:21:02 AM
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Ahh. I was wondering why my username never showed up there. LOL

Go Big or Go Home.
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March 11, 2015, 12:33:39 AM
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Payout 346912 (finally) sent
725676dfd3128f568f0dcee2d74addc5caa9b2bce4871506ff637b7e48c940d8
and confirmed about 50 minutes ago.

Regarding shifts:
I'll write a long complicated description coz ... well ... not sure how else to describe it Smiley

Currently the pool gets about 50 million shares a day
Obviously you can't store each share individually anywhere useful - too much data.
So instead the data is summarised.

These are the shifts.

OK now a long version:
ckpool itself gives out work to miners based on a template from bitcoind
We call this a workinfo (that has a unique workinfoid)
ckpool gets a new one every 30 seconds and also every time a new block is found on the network.

The shares ckdb gets from ckpool, it groups them under the workinfoid per worker - called a sharesummary
So that firstly means that the number of sharesummaries a day is ~2880 * workers

These are like mini-shifts ~30 seconds long.

Next ckdb groups every ~100 sharesummaries together into a markersummary (that has a range of workinfoid's defined in a workmarker)
It's not always 100, since it has to stop whenever the pool finds a block and it stops at the point if ckpool restarts.
So now we are down to about ~29 * workers markersummaries a day that are also stored in permanent DB storage.

These are shifts ~50 minutes long.

Workmarkers are defined by 2 consecutive marks that specify a workinfoid range.
These marks are the shift end points as shown on the Shifts page.
A workmarker range is the first workinfoid after the previous shift mark to the end of the current shift mark.
The unique names for shifts include a name at the end to ensure they are unique.
They only had to be a letter, but for fun I decided to give each letter a female anime character name Smiley

When a payout is generated, it has to count back shares from the block until it reaches or exceeds the payout limit (at the moment 500%)
It can't stop at exactly the limit since the shares aren't individually stored.
It must stop at the start of a workmarker i.e. the start of a shift, and include all shares in the shift, since that's the only point to stop that's fair to all workers.
This, of course, is due to the fact that a shift has shares ranging over the 50 minutes of the workmarker range, so if one markersummary for a given workmarker is included, all markersummaries for the given workmarker have to be included.
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March 11, 2015, 02:40:32 AM
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my sp20 miner has this options in settings:

1:no-scaling 2:extranonce.subscribe 4:no-debug 8:alt-bistword

i d like to know if i must include some of that options for CKpool.
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March 11, 2015, 03:45:11 AM
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my sp20 miner has this options in settings:

1:no-scaling 2:extranonce.subscribe 4:no-debug 8:alt-bistword

i d like to know if i must include some of that options for CKpool.
Ckpool needs no extra flags to work optimally. Apart from debug, those are mostly hacks for oddball services acting as proxies to other pools or mining random other shitcoins rather than pure bitcoin mining pools.

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March 11, 2015, 04:45:41 AM
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Was the first block # 180 our first orphan to date? I noticed it was crossed out  Undecided

Edit: Also Block!
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March 11, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
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Was the first block # 180 our first orphan to date? I noticed it was crossed out  Undecided

Edit: Also Block!
We had another orphan 5.5 months ago.
The pool's 2nd block.
Payout 347038 sent
942f760ecb294c5566f611573d625abf1032cdfd288b9e136fa017743040617f
and confirmed
Restarted CKDB about 20 minutes ago.
No miners were affected Smiley

I've now flagged the orphan Payout as an orphan so it doesn't show up (and I can fix that easily now)

The Shifts page shows a BTC next to the shift name of any shift that ended when a block was found
(yes I drew the BTC I use on the web site)

The Blocks page has a new table of block history statistics at the top.
The numbers are:
Diff% - the total Diff / total Network Difficulty (as was shown at the bottom before) - less than 100 is better luck
Mean% - the average difficulty of the range of blocks - less than 100 is better luck
Luck% - like some other pools show - greater than 100 is better luck - interesting to see it is above 100% for all of them Smiley
CDF[Erl] is the CDF of the Erlang distribution of the range of blocks for the given mean.
Thanks indeed goes to organofcorti for his help and his posts about calculating that!
Sorry - I've temporarily removed the new Block Stats table - seems as the Mean% is wrong ... will need to check that again tomorrow and fix it.

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March 11, 2015, 01:54:33 PM
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In case anyone was wondering, Verizon DSL is crap:



Wish I could get something better at my house.
It makes my 24 hour average about 1.5 TH lower than it should be.
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March 11, 2015, 04:40:15 PM
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Most any DSL is crap...  You are better off getting a cable modem instead of telephone modem.  I have cable modem service with 60Mbps downstream and 4Mbps upstream.  Unfortunately, I'm having issues after a lot of rain we have had lately.  They are coming out today to fix it.  My upstream is crawling at a snails pace.  Barely enough to allow my rigs to send data back to the pool but it takes forever for an image to upload on imgur.com.  This is the only issue I have had with my cable modem service since I got it back in 2006.  

I'm about to upgrade service to 100 Mbps down and 10 Mbps up once they fix this upstream problem today.  I don't need that much for the rigs.  However, If I have my own 2 iPhones, 2 iPads, 4 computers, 2 Apple TV's, and other friends devices connected at the same time when they are visiting, it is quite a load on the network.  Especially, the upstream.  My AT&T DSL was never able to handle all of this.  I'm 10,000 feet of 24 AWG from the DSLAM and the fastest they could give me was 3 Mbps down and 400 kbps up.  They can go 4 wire 24 AWG now to get me 5 Mbps down and 800 kbps up but that is still terribly slow.  It just can't handle the load here at the house when my son is watching Apple TV, and my wife and I are on our computer or iPads watching videos, etc...  DSL was a joke.

Bandwidth is something I never have to worry about being in Singapore. The whole country is fibre ready and I'm on the lowest plan available and it's 200Mbps up/down. http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4185029836

Just too bad our electricity is way off chart...


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March 11, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
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Yeah had a problem for about 5 or 10 minutes (40 minutes ago) - but cleared up once I restarted the pool.
I think the problem is still persisting, mine failed over again 6 minutes after your post .... and the site is still not accesible!
Yeah it's a DDOS - seems the server DDOS protection cuts in and everyone is out for 5 or 10 minutes.

This guy says I have to pay him 3BTC ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=411920

Don't pay anything! We will still be here long after he is gone

I just received an email from Bitmain that they are being threaten with extortion now on the website and the pool.
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March 11, 2015, 05:00:04 PM
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Yeah it's a DDOS - seems the server DDOS protection cuts in and everyone is out for 5 or 10 minutes.

This guy says I have to pay him 3BTC ...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=411920

He's now onto bitmain!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2yor09/important_notice_for_bitmain_customers/

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