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April 19, 2017, 10:50:29 AM
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A reminder to people about the most important part about any non-solo pool. The transactional integrity of the users share data. Anyone who assumes a piece of software will never crash, is of course, a moron  When pool software fails, it's critical that when it restarts, it has all the share information it had before. If you can't guarantee this, then miners will lose rewards. CKDB ensures this using 2 levels of storage. Firstly there is a back end postgresql relational database that stores all information required about users and their accounts. It also stores all the shift share data, that is updated each time a shift is summarised, and various other mining data. When ckpool crashes, it has no effect on CKDB, since any shares not already passed to CKDB are not accepted shares for the miner, and all shares passed to CKDB are of course there in RAM and also in the dual log files of the sequential share information. If CKDB crashes, a restart reloads all the recent shift data stored in the relational database, then rebuilds the current shift using the ckpool log files and continues to process the running ckpool data, synchronising the two to ensure there are no lost or duplicate shares. This is all in the public git of CKDB. If you feel the urge to leave and join some other pool, firstly consider how safe your share data is on the other pool I will also point out that the changes made on ckpool early in the year to support a 'remote node' guarantee that shares will be lost if the remote node ckpool is ever restarted or crashes. One of the reasons this pool will never use that mode in the ckpool software. |
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April 19, 2017, 11:01:33 AM |
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...I just ordered 3 L3's for the may 5th shipping. ... I missed out on the May and I'm close to sure that the July shipment will have 1/2 the profits by the time I get mine near August.  funny how they/him "had" everybody [no shipping under pretense] and here you are...may i have another... Bitmain just informed me that they can only ship 2 of the L3's I paid for..lol other can be shiped july 15.. they oversold on Monday. Any recommendation on other manufactures for a tube type miner? |
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kano (OP)
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April 19, 2017, 11:04:03 AM
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Please stop posts about altcoin miners.
I'll delete any more from here on.
Edit: L3 is an altcoin miner - nothing to do with bitcoin.
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kano (OP)
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April 19, 2017, 12:14:13 PM |
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Block! by cdqazx ~3.5THs! Prolly an S7? 1.3BTC fees |
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April 19, 2017, 12:34:59 PM |
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Please stop posts about altcoin miners.
I'll delete any more from here on.
Edit: L3 is an altcoin miner - nothing to do with bitcoin.
*******KANO****** please read before deleting I am looking for a bitcoin miner... there is no mention of me looking of an altcoin miner in any post and defiantly not in this post. I am looking for KANO preferred alternatives to Bitmain.. Are you in bed with them now? If not, what manufacture do you suggest? Be a leader not a deleter..lol ############################Deleted Post########################################### I am sorry, Ill rephrase the question. It wasn't so much about altcoin but the service quality of a vendor that handles a good chunk of bitcoin hashrate. I do very much enjoy Kano pool and was hoping to get info from kano pool users since these machines will be sending their hash rate your way and the users here have the experience and knowledge I lack with using KanoPool.... Anyone know of alternate quality suppliers of tube/high hashrate miners(Bitcoin) that are available for purchase and that can be used with Kano pools? Thank you and sorry in advance if I offended anyone in any way. ############################################################################### |
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April 19, 2017, 12:55:27 PM |
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I do very much enjoy Kano pool and was hoping to get info from kano pool users since these machines will be sending their hash rate your way and the users here have the experience and knowledge I lack <snip>
So then post in the *hardware* sections of the forum.... And lose the 'in bed with Bitmain' train of thought. You will find very few here fitting that idea. |
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April 19, 2017, 01:05:29 PM |
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And lose the 'in bed with Bitmain' train of thought. You will find very few here fitting that idea.
And many of us that have spent a small fortune with them wish there was a viable alternative when it comes to ROI.  |
If you have to ask "why?", you wouldn`t understand my answer.
Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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Hey Kano crew... I recently moved over to Kano from Slush and think I'm here to stay for the long haul! Good payouts. And like seeing Kano so present in this forum. Quick question... thinking about scaling up my current home-mine to a larger scale operation (thinking 500TH-1PH to start) and was wondering if anyone here has stats on diminishing returns over time? Basically, I'm building a "business plan" of sorts and have a large excel xls going to calculate revenue / expense / profit for this operation. I am very well aware of network diff increases (ie +8% per month), but was wondering if factoring them in in this way was accurate based on people's historical returns? So, I start with a rough estimate of what a single miners earns in a month on the pool. For numbers sake, lets say 1 BTC / month. Would I expect that same miner to make 0.92 BTC in month 2 (92% of mth1)? And then 0.8464 in month 3 (92% of mth2)? Etc? Am I thinking about this correctly to make a conservative estimate (note - I plan on holding BTC price in my calculations static, again, to be conservative)? Or am I reducing the returns too much since I plan on pool mining and not solo? Thanks!! |
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April 19, 2017, 01:17:25 PM |
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Nice overnight blocks with nice fees!  Welcome cdqazx to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block! |
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April 19, 2017, 01:24:55 PM |
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Nice start of the day! 3 blocks under our belt and I got the 1st one hgt 462536. 'Twas on a s9 ta boot. That makes my 4th on Kano |
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April 19, 2017, 01:48:29 PM |
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Congrats on the Block.
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April 19, 2017, 02:25:38 PM |
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Hey Kano crew... I recently moved over to Kano from Slush and think I'm here to stay for the long haul! Good payouts. And like seeing Kano so present in this forum. Quick question... thinking about scaling up my current home-mine to a larger scale operation (thinking 500TH-1PH to start) and was wondering if anyone here has stats on diminishing returns over time? Basically, I'm building a "business plan" of sorts and have a large excel xls going to calculate revenue / expense / profit for this operation. I am very well aware of network diff increases (ie +8% per month), but was wondering if factoring them in in this way was accurate based on people's historical returns? So, I start with a rough estimate of what a single miners earns in a month on the pool. For numbers sake, lets say 1 BTC / month. Would I expect that same miner to make 0.92 BTC in month 2 (92% of mth1)? And then 0.8464 in month 3 (92% of mth2)? Etc? Am I thinking about this correctly to make a conservative estimate (note - I plan on holding BTC price in my calculations static, again, to be conservative)? Or am I reducing the returns too much since I plan on pool mining and not solo? Thanks!! At that size, there's no "scaling up", it's a totally separate creature. Make sure you hire/consult HVAC and electrical professionals, and ensure that you start out with room to grow (your ROI will thank you in the long run). As for the declining percentage numbers, yes, each month you'll lose from the month before. Pricing BTC on spec will always be personally subjective; so, while you can get advice, the final answer will be one of what you think will be best for you. We use a "static" of previous 12 days average - 10%. As for pool or solo, that's all a matter of costs, man-power, hardware, and knowledge. For our CBA, it's better to pool so that we don't have to mess with hardware/software and pool fees are less than a qualified on-call tech in our area (and I'm too lazy to do it anymore by myself  ). |
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Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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April 19, 2017, 02:45:57 PM |
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Block! by kmpmine 2.8BTC fees S9v1 Howly F... BTC15.3 that's the biggest one yet (after halving) right? And that a s9v1 got it makes it even more special [On a large block drop by s9v1]: "When we fall, we fall hard..." |
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April 19, 2017, 05:59:00 PM |
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Block! by kmpmine 2.8BTC fees S9v1 Howly F... BTC15.3 that's the biggest one yet (after halving) right? And that a s9v1 got it makes it even more special [On a large block drop by s9v1]: "When we fall, we fall hard..." OMG, it was a monster!!! |
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April 19, 2017, 09:15:35 PM |
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kano (OP)
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April 19, 2017, 10:17:46 PM |
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S9v2 Took a while to reply coz I was driving down the highway in Salt Lake City when we found it |
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April 19, 2017, 10:18:01 PM |
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still have time for some more!
I am so happy I stuck with the pool after Dec 2016
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April 20, 2017, 01:10:14 AM |
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S9v2 Took a while to reply coz I was driving down the highway in Salt Lake City when we found it What brings you to the states?! |
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April 20, 2017, 02:38:22 AM |
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Whelp, I was able to get an order in for the April 25th Batch of S9's @ 13Th so i will soon be adding another s9 to my motley crew and save up to get one of the 14Th+ ones if they have another batch in the future.
At this point I can probably phase out my S5's, sell em on Ebay. Someone with cheaper power can put them to better use than I. Just run two S9's (At 13.5 and 13TH) and 2 S7's @ 5Th give or take.
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April 20, 2017, 03:44:55 AM |
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Whelp, I was able to get an order in for the April 25th Batch of S9's @ 13Th so i will soon be adding another s9 to my motley crew and save up to get one of the 14Th+ ones if they have another batch in the future.
At this point I can probably phase out my S5's, sell em on Ebay. Someone with cheaper power can put them to better use than I. Just run two S9's (At 13.5 and 13TH) and 2 S7's @ 5Th give or take.
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