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November 18, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
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Breakout Team:

I just purchased some more genesis BRO but sent two transactions to the same purchase address that your website issued me as it said on the page to make sure I was still on it if sending multiple transactions... but that page then automatically changed to the next one once the first transaction arrived so it looks like the second transaction I sent to the same purchase address was not forwarded to the breakout one after checking the BTC blockchain. I emailed your help desk just then with all the details to see if this can be fixed hopefully?

Ps: And I'm not so technically minded, doh, but I have several .json files from purchases now so would they all be importable to a singular desktop BRO wallet?

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November 18, 2014, 02:52:09 PM
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Jay's resume alone should warrant thousands of btc for this ICO. So many people missed an opportunity here.  If people did just a little bit of research they would have uncovered talent not seen in any other project on these forums.

Yep, BreakoutCoin is the only coin that has known team of celebrities behind it. I think the only reason ICO collected so small amount, this is due to the fact that it were not hosted on known exchange.

I agree breakout coin is a genius idea, especially considering still over 50% of bitcoins transactions every day are for gambling.

But maidsafe and ethereum are 2 IPO's highest yielding in history(in crypto) and they never had an exchange. Having an exchange sell an IPO doesn't determine the amount that will be invested .

There are quite a few small things that if they were refined and made simpler then it would of brought in more cash.

Simpler deposit processes , for advanced people its nothing, for newbies to crypto its the most complex IPO deposit process ever used . it can put people off

Not such a drastic drop in value over the 30 days, seriously when has an IPO in crypto ever given first entrants more than 100% more than someone who is depositing in the last few days of the IPO? thats some pretty big early adopter advantage , considering still investing at the end still makes you an early adopter.

Shown beta of products half way through if it was possible and they had it working, looks like it wouldn't of been possible thou, but it without doubt would of increased interest and investments .

But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .

the amount invested now doesn't matter if the idea is solid and expertly implemented. NXT had very little invested in their IPO in relation to their value they are currently, there are moments in crypto history that projects/coins that have gone unnoticed at the beginning to rise up in popularity after the initial funding stage because what they have is something with real world value.

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November 18, 2014, 03:01:08 PM
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But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .

Yes.  The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons.  The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community.  Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever.  As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project.  None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders Grin".  Similar to what Bitshares did with Angelshares (Best crypto investment I made so far), I have an interest in Bitshares and Breakoutcoin for life now.  I love projects that let me lock up my interest for the long-term because 5-10 years out is when we are going to see the real returns.
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November 18, 2014, 03:12:43 PM
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But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .

Yes.  The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons.  The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community on this forum.  Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever.  As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project.  None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders" Grin.

Eternal bagholders Grin

I already see second market with sellers who charges x? for an empty wallets with bergstake.

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Eternal bagholders Grin

I already see second market with sellers who charges x? for an empty wallets with bergstake.

You would have to trust the seller so I'm not sure how that would work.  Besides, even if Breakoutgaming turns out to be just a mediocre, poorly run gaming site, our Bergstake will be many times more valuable then the price we paid for it.

First things first I guess, let's get this project launched.
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Eternal bagholders Grin

I already see second market with sellers who charges x? for an empty wallets with bergstake.

You would have to trust the seller so I'm not sure how that would work.  Besides, even if Breakoutgaming turns out to be just a mediocre, poorly run gaming site, our Bergstake will be many times more valuable then the price we paid for it.

First things first I guess, let's get this project launched.

Via escrow of course. Thats why they will charge x? and not the price they initially paid for it.

No doubt, it will be launched, maybe even before NY.

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No doubt, it will be launched, maybe even before NY.

What does this mean?

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November 18, 2014, 03:47:39 PM
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No doubt, it will be launched, maybe even before NY.

What does this mean?


Before New Year. 700 BTC are not collected, that means they will need more time to finish gaming platform, not that much time left.

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As I said previously, all remaining BRO + Bergstake after this new phase sale,  should be divided among ALL investors of both phases, according to the amounts they invested, this way the entire 10 million Genesis Breakout Coins + Bergstake goes to investors in both ICO phases, as originally intended in OP.
 


Agree. But not according to the amounts they invested .  Must be: according to the amounts of coins they purchased .

This will be fair for early investors.
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November 18, 2014, 05:35:46 PM
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Jay's resume alone should warrant thousands of btc for this ICO. So many people missed an opportunity here.  If people did just a little bit of research they would have uncovered talent not seen in any other project on these forums.

No one has missed an opportunity yet. The coin is still for sale.

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November 18, 2014, 06:46:27 PM
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Jay's resume alone should warrant thousands of btc for this ICO. So many people missed an opportunity here.  If people did just a little bit of research they would have uncovered talent not seen in any other project on these forums.

No one has missed an opportunity yet. The coin is still for sale.


Yes, that's true.  Sorry if my comment was misleading.
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November 18, 2014, 07:14:39 PM
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imo there's too much going on with the poker table designs, I say this as a long term grinder myself. will there be a simplified table option ?

Yes, if you want a lot of action, you should please multi-tablers as well.

Easy to customize graphics (or give enough simple themes to choose from), easy to script UI (so people can make AHK scripts to help betting/folding/raising etc) or make it built in to be able to define customized hotkeys with customized actions for any given situation. Please consult some of the multi-tablers and those who make the betting scripts/tools for currently existing sites.

And an option to display bb amounts instead of absolute BRO values is important.. so if you multi-table different stakes you can just 3bet to 9bb for example without doing extra calculations.

And most importantly, make the rake low enough. Like, very low. Dealing with crypto should minimize the losses poker sites usually get from charge backs etc.

Anyone wanna give any feedback wrt my suggestions?

I feel like making it very easy for multi-tablers to start playing as many tables as possible is very important. When I was still playing a lot, I basically played only PartyPoker because it was so easy to make scripts for it. I was playing 18 tables simultaneously, and if I tried a new site all I could do was 4 maximum. And even then I only could play on hour or two because of all that extra clicking got very tiring very fast whereas I could play 8 hours straight 18 tabling on Party.

If you think of it in terms of rake you can collect I'd imagine it would be very clear which approach to favor over the other.
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As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...

Question: How is this entire project now, one day  before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 3000/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.

Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.
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November 18, 2014, 07:21:47 PM
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As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...

Question: How is this entire project now, one day  before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 300/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.

Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.


I was wrong, time to start using XSTerminate to delete this shit.  Sick of coming to this thread and reading the constant rambling of some dumbass who thinks he's a crypto God and knows better than everyone else.

THIS is exactly what I was hoping the OP would prevent in this thread yet I'm not seeing much of a dev presence at this point.

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As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...

Question: How is this entire project now, one day  before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 300/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.

Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.


I was wrong, time to start using XSTerminate to delete this shit.  Sick of coming to this thread and reading the constant rambling of some dumbass who thinks he's a crypto God and knows better than everyone else.

THIS is exactly what I was hoping the OP would prevent in this thread yet I'm not seeing much of a dev presence at this point.

I take it you don't like my suggestion much...

I'd love to hear yours, since this will be a no go under the present circumstances.
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November 18, 2014, 08:30:17 PM
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But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .

Yes.  The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons.  The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community.  Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever.  As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project.  None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders Grin".  Similar to what Bitshares did with Angelshares (Best crypto investment I made so far), I have an interest in Bitshares and Breakoutgaming for life now.  I love projects that let me lock up my interest for the long-term because 5-10 years out is when we are going to see the real returns.

This is why I wouldn't mind another 4 or 5 day coin sale after some gaming demo releases, not only to raise more funds, but to give more people the chance to buy Genesis BRO + Bergstake, thus growing this "sticky" community.

As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...
Question: How is this entire project now, one day  before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 3000/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.
Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.

That's called "Venture Risk".

When Wall Street Journal reporter asked Mr. Liew, of Lightspeed VC firm if it’s risky to put money into LedgerX's pre-launch whose business model is centered on getting government approval in a sector that has gotten none. Mr. Liew replied: “It’s venture risk,” . “It’s possible that it doesn’t work out, but you find the people who have the best possible chance to do it."

You already know this project has much better chances of reaching top MarketCap spots than any other project out there, that's why you're sticking around.

Fronting a Poker face may do you well when playing BreakoutGames, but not when offering low balling suggestions to these Devs though.



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November 18, 2014, 08:37:00 PM
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As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...

Question: How is this entire project now, one day  before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 300/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.

Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.


I was wrong, time to start using XSTerminate to delete this shit.  Sick of coming to this thread and reading the constant rambling of some dumbass who thinks he's a crypto God and knows better than everyone else.

THIS is exactly what I was hoping the OP would prevent in this thread yet I'm not seeing much of a dev presence at this point.

I take it you don't like my suggestion much...

I'd love to hear yours, since this will be a no go under the present circumstances.

Starting now from scratch and refunding initial investors? Are you joking? Who will ever want to invest in BRO if their single word wont mean anything, anymore?! Who will garantee that new ICO will succeed? You Barabbas? I think, do this and you easily lost trust for many investors with lots of BTC. But thats just my opinion and i not an expert on the matter.

I think, as many pointed out when beta working platform is out, another ICO on Bter should be launched at starting price 3000/BTC for a week or so and spread it proportionally till it comes to 2000/BTC. Or something similar..
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November 18, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
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As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...

Question: How is this entire project now, one day  before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 300/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.

Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.


I was wrong, time to start using XSTerminate to delete this shit.  Sick of coming to this thread and reading the constant rambling of some dumbass who thinks he's a crypto God and knows better than everyone else.

THIS is exactly what I was hoping the OP would prevent in this thread yet I'm not seeing much of a dev presence at this point.

I take it you don't like my suggestion much...

I'd love to hear yours, since this will be a no go under the present circumstances.

Starting now from scratch and refunding initial investors? Are you joking? Who will ever want to invest in BRO if their single word wont mean anything, anymore?! Who will garantee that new ICO will succeed? You Barabbas? I think, do this and you easily lost trust for many investors with lots of BTC. But thats just my opinion and i not an expert on the matter.

I think, as many pointed out when beta working platform is out, another ICO on Bter should be launched at starting price 3000/BTC for a week or so and spread it proportionally till it comes to 2000/BTC. Or something similar..

This has already been stated that if it was done this way, if the berg stake was destroyed or kept by the dev's which seem like the only 2 options without being able to transfer the berg stake, they would own more than 50% earning potential for the life of the coin and it would be bad for the coin.

They also almost certainly wouldn't sell the entire amount of coins after the 5 days on the exchange and would have to either distribute to current holders (extremely unlikely) since they are trying to get 700 btc and would most likely sell to "private investors" I.E not the public on an exchange.

So proposing that you allow after 30 days already even more of a chance for people to buy in, which would cause detrimental damage to the life of the coin and not raise enough funds anyway or sell all the coins, after all that extra implementation to sell a few million more coins, you would have to sell to private investors in the end anyways. which is what they are already suggesting to begin with if they don't make enough money now
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November 18, 2014, 09:06:05 PM
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But the idea itself is amazing , it's why i invested , this isn't just a coin for a simple quick deposit , this is a crypto currency that has been made specifically for the most popular use that crypto currency currently has, with a very expensive and well made online casino. The chance of longevity and an opportunity to have a completely 100% passive income of doing nothing and sitting on your ass with your wallet open to earn money every day. for years and years to come. It has life long earning potential .

Yes.  The idea of Bergstake is so powerful for a couple of reasons.  The first is the one mentioned above. The second is they created a "sticky" community.  Even if everyone that invested in the ICO sells their coins, we have the Bergstake forever.  As long as Breakoutgaming is ongoing, everyone of us will forever have an interest in this project.  None of us will ever say, "I dumped my coins so I have no interest anymore, good luck bagholders Grin".  Similar to what Bitshares did with Angelshares (Best crypto investment I made so far), I have an interest in Bitshares and Breakoutgaming for life now.  I love projects that let me lock up my interest for the long-term because 5-10 years out is when we are going to see the real returns.

This is why I wouldn't mind another 4 or 5 day coin sale after some gaming demo releases, not only to raise more funds, but to give more people the chance to buy Genesis BRO + Bergstake, thus growing this "sticky" community.

As usual, the greedy, nutcases, running amok...
Question: How is this entire project now, one day  before the ICO closes, any closer to actually happen than a month ago? Not even half the minimum required to launch has been collected... A re-sale, with nothing new (a working ready-for-testing platform) on the table, at the current or even higher price? You have got to be kidding... I mean, you can be deluded as much as you want to be but everyone that ever wanted to know about this project already does. Everyone with actual money to invest, that is. And, unless there are significant changes (like a working, ready-for-testing platform), no one will put a single cent more on this project. Not a 3000/1btc, not at 6600/1btc. Not at ANY price.
Once again, my suggestion: Do it right. Start from scratch again... but with a product (a working, ready-for-testing platform) to back all the claims of the project. Forget about the peculiar concept of "fair" and start thinking "business". Then you will have something that people will invest in. I know I will. Many others too. And if some of the "children" are not happy because they believe it is "unfair", just refund their money and that will make it as fair as it can be. Very sim-ple... if you have a product to sell. Otherwise, you are selling, on a very fancy way, a nice lot of front beach property in Arizona.

That's called "Venture Risk".

When Wall Street Journal reporter asked Mr. Liew, of Lightspeed VC firm if it’s risky to put money into LedgerX's pre-launch whose business model is centered on getting government approval in a sector that has gotten none. Mr. Liew replied: “It’s venture risk,” . “It’s possible that it doesn’t work out, but you find the people who have the best possible chance to do it."

You already know this project has much better chances of reaching top MarketCap spots than any other project out there, that's why you're sticking around.

Fronting a Poker face may do you well when playing BreakoutGames, but not when offering low balling suggestions to these Devs though.


As usual. you are just blinded by your own greed.

Let's make it clear for others -since you are out of reach completely-" I have been here since day one, supporting this idea that I consider is great, launched at the worst possible time and without anything solid (a working platform) that can support it. Without that my support remains just testimonial for I won't invest in beach property in Arizona. Not many, at this point in the crypto game -as obviated by the results- do. Contrary to your extremely short thinking capability, EVEN with a decent test-ready platform, the success of the coin launch is far from guaranteed, mostly due to the extreme scarcity of available funds in crypto at the moment.

That out of the way, I made a suggestion because this, in case you still refuse to see it, is a train wreck, a project that will NOT happen.

There's no "private sale" possible. That is simply an euphemism for the BG team to keep the 8.3 million coins + bergstake and paying themselves for it, an INSTAMINE of gigantic proportions, you get that? And no matter where you put it of what you show in lieu of a working platform, and even if you do show one, No one is going to pay more than double the price it was given to the first investors, deal with that reality because it is crashing hard upon you.

What I suggested is a potential solution that I am convinced will provide the minimal result required and maybe even more than that. Doing things right instead of this mess. You don't offer any real alternative and what you pretend to pass for an alternative -which would require the approval of BTER, not an easy feat by any means-, will materialize very quickly in another terrible failure for, again, no one is going to pay for this -in significant amounts-- more than double what others did. But I may be wrong and you may be right, I just think no one is going to be crazy enough or capable even to test your "idea" while mine is easily done and can be tested in one week's time... if the platform is ready.

I "stick around" a lot of coins, some I am invested in some I am not. Currently as I have stated many times, I only have a testimonial interest in BRO. And I would like for it to be successful for, I repeat, I believe it is a great idea. But, in the current state, it simply won't. And it won't either if they were to try your outrageous approach, in my opinion, of course.

Oh and in case you keep on forgetting, a LOT of NOTHING is just as much as NOTHING of NOTHING. Take a moment or two to digest that.
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November 18, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
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There's no "private sale" possible. That is simply an euphemism for the BG team to keep the 8.3 million coins + bergstake and paying themselves for it

Where are you getting your information? I think they already said they wouldn't do anything like this.

You are right about your main point though: there needs to be more clarity on the fate of the unsold ICO coins.

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