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but in this case , we can't not refund to them. because they used the flaw of Tx dice. and they got the our bitcoin at the time. because using the flow of TX dice, they had won for the every bet , and then the betting amount was gradually increased. when we t realize the problem, it was too late.
the transactions was clearly theirs. they took brought already brought us a bitcoin.
why do we give the bitcoin again ?
Oh I see now. I see that too, rabiow12 winnings were a little too good(but that doesn't proove he is a sacmmer).Here is my analysis: This is the betting history of rabiow12: 0.13111 x 4.08 = 0.534929BTC 7891d6909cfd85b7a72b1cff8eddf21d8e205aed8159143c38e952b763f0a5d3 0.24503 x 4.08 = 0.999722BTC 8585b5035989adb3a326c5e56d9810694bff7a6b5aa67e0464cf281f22559334 0.32204 x 8.16 = 2.627846BTC fef94e75782f22f7c02dd7f269ed537596b62ed1b855da775b889f6697587437 0.40611 x 8.16 = 3.3138576BTC (not paid) e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25 0.06424 x 4.08 = 0.2620992BTC (not paid) 78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6 Rabiow's profits are 4.031387-(0.40611+0.06424)=3.561037BTC. 5 transactions all winning on high multipliers. But my case is different. I have done 11 transactions on 1.98 and 4.08 multipliers only. 4 out of 11 transactions lost, only 7 won. And my last transaction was over the max 0.9733BTC what's the craziest part about that? If your max bet was bigger my transaction would have in fact lost because I have sent to x1.98 on higher than 49 and mine was 39. But since you have a rule of refunding bets that are higher than the max, I am waiting for your refund. I will not scream nor will I bold my text but please secondstrade read my post. Exactly. I am sufficiently certain that rabiow12 is one of the players who abused this vulnerability. and very likely a liar. Are you on a profit or loss?
LOSS it was my only bitcoins left rabiow12 is a retarded if he keeps losing money here but still plays here, if he thinks op is a scammer, he should not give away his money to him.
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-snip- But my case is different. I have done 11 transactions on 1.98 and 4.08 multipliers only. 4 out of 11 transactions lost, only 7 won. And my last transaction was over the max 0.9733BTC what's the craziest part about that? If your max bet was bigger my transaction would have in fact lost because I have sent to x1.98 on higher than 49 and mine was 39. But since you have a rule of refunding bets that are higher than the max, I am waiting for your refund. I will not scream nor will I bold my text but please secondstrade read my post.
That is good!! You should get your refund.
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October 13, 2016, 03:27:05 PM |
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If secondstrade.com thinks that i've cheated than POST A PROOF else refund me now. NOTE: We know that the member ndnh is supporting secondstrade.com please becarefull!! I WANT MY REFUND NOW!-snip- ................ You should get your refund.
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Just bumping this, thought you probably missed it. I still have not received the payout for this bet. People it's not a scam. You have good days and bad days. Two days ago I won over 3BTC, starting with 0.3BTC. It's GAMBLING! If you don't understand that don't play. it was our mistake that we opened imperfect txdice. nevertheless, it is also not a right thing for you to use the weakest point of TX dice. it can not be refunded. thank you. Excuse me? That was not TX dice, it was a 5seconds bet I bet, it won, it never paid out and your own website shows a java error for the payout. if you don't pay out that then maybe this IS a scam. What the heck dude? I have never even played TXdice, not even once! I always play the 5seconds +2 or +4 Are you just ignoring me now or what? My bet never paid out, it was not TXdice it was a 5seconds bet. It was supposed to pay out 0.354246BTC http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=2d0f175f4b2bf8fa488fd7587a9d6d967325d19de891a3e06e9537f26ca40a99Help me out here dude. I play on your site every day. the refund was completed. https://blockchain.info/tx/22b671f30c89fde404783a1d3989902d8cf98b3fc55cb9c9d37790739f685193thank you. Thank you, sir!
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Exactly. I am sufficiently certain that rabiow12 is one of the players who abused this vulnerability. and very likely a liar.
Any evidences to back-up your claims ? If he is one who abused the vulnerability,wouldn't he take the profits and disappear instead of demanding the coins which he genuinely lost ? If you scroll back a few pages,secondstrade says they lost about 9 bitcoins and they won't be refunding anybody.Doesn't make sense to me.It is basically their fault.And on-topic they haven't replied to rabiow's claims with any logical reasons.Calling him a scammer doesn't make him one.
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Refund this. Bet not played. No refund still. This is was won transaction, but not showed. Whats a matter? May be -4 trust helps to the refund? =(
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-snip- But my case is different. I have done 11 transactions on 1.98 and 4.08 multipliers only. 4 out of 11 transactions lost, only 7 won. And my last transaction was over the max 0.9733BTC what's the craziest part about that? If your max bet was bigger my transaction would have in fact lost because I have sent to x1.98 on higher than 49 and mine was 39. But since you have a rule of refunding bets that are higher than the max, I am waiting for your refund. I will not scream nor will I bold my text but please secondstrade read my post.
That is good!! You should get your refund. we refunded him. https://blockchain.info/tx/5c872b79e5518095d5045d2394849a4641a0073097d05615ab0aaad44e51a23dthank you for your help .
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October 14, 2016, 10:46:06 AM |
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You are wasting your time refunding dust amounts .
Refund my money now Scammer
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You are wasting your time refunding dust amounts .
Refund my money now Scammer
[ everyone become know you are a abuser. so i ask you to payback us all the bitcoin that you get by abusing. your abusing profit was 3.561037BTC. please return the bitcoin, then i will consider bug bounty for that. it was very analyzed by tautvilis. below is his analysis: This is the betting history of rabiow12: 0.13111 x 4.08 = 0.534929BTC 7891d6909cfd85b7a72b1cff8eddf21d8e205aed8159143c38e952b763f0a5d3 0.24503 x 4.08 = 0.999722BTC 8585b5035989adb3a326c5e56d9810694bff7a6b5aa67e0464cf281f22559334 0.32204 x 8.16 = 2.627846BTC fef94e75782f22f7c02dd7f269ed537596b62ed1b855da775b889f6697587437 0.40611 x 8.16 = 3.3138576BTC (not paid) e9c1b4482d8fb046ed452b1286791872a7dfb316a19e2cd173360448854abc25 0.06424 x 4.08 = 0.2620992BTC (not paid) 78476e80288d5db927f78ea28abd94219ebe08a7d9f792712b79f6b9589495a6 Rabiow's profits are 4.031387-(0.40611+0.06424)=3.561037BTC. 5 transactions all winning on high multipliers.
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My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam. so payout for the scam was not proceeded. at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited). and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer. so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited . 2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours). 3. the requester were newbie. ( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id. the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding .. you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too.
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So he gave you a refund and now you are shitting the rest of your happines on me ok np, i will stay at my point cause i didnt cheat i have no profits also its not my problem if there is a bug in the game refund me and VOD is an honest man he will ask for proves inorder to remove a red trust so good luck with that . Waiting for my refund until i die. My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam. so payout for the scam was not proceeded. at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited). and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer. so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited . 2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours). 3. the requester were newbie. ( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id. the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding .. you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too.
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My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam. so payout for the scam was not proceeded. at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited). and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer. so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited . 2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours). 3. the requester were newbie. ( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id. the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding .. you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too. thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you. but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses and there is no any information . if he bets first , 0.8 btc is too big amount . most people initially start small. i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12. i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or more transactions thank you.
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i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or more transactions So again you keep playing smart by fooling everyone saying " he must prove that he is not my partner" thats makes me somehow a scammer in your little head right ? Thats ur plan ? Keep thinking whatever you want you will get more RED TRUST until you refund me and all the scammed money. Scammer Go to hell.
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October 14, 2016, 02:17:08 PM Last edit: October 14, 2016, 02:27:13 PM by sp3edm |
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My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam. so payout for the scam was not proceeded. at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited). and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer. so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited . 2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours). 3. the requester were newbie. ( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id. the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding .. you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too. thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you. but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses and there is no any information . if he bets first , 0.8 btc is too big amount . most people initially start small. i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12. i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or more transactions thank you. Hello, secondstrade, please don't ignore message, i wrote clear situation.I'm not rabiow12 (i don't know him...) and he is not in my case. (tautvilis was in my case).It is normal i'm a new user here, i see your website on Google, the first transaction i made was 0.8BTC. after a while, the game was not completed. You don't have contact page on your website but i found a link "Discuss on Bitcointalk.org". Let's see transaction time and my registration on the forum... (It's same). You are right, it was my first bet... i played before on binary trading and played big amont. It's a crime to play big bet ? And i played later on your website until i see it was over limit... I never played txdice... my first bet was on ODD EVEN x2. The game was not played, right? so why you don't want to refund ? O.o Please refund me, i will remove trust and will edit all negative about you.
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My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam. so payout for the scam was not proceeded. at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited). and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer. so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited . 2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours). 3. the requester were newbie. ( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id. the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding .. you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too. thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you. but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses and there is no any information . if he bets first , 0.8 btc is too big amount . most people initially start small. i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12. i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or more transactions thank you. Hello, secondstrade, please don't ignore message, i wrote clear situation.I'm not rabiow12 (i don't know him...) and he is not in my case. (tautvilis was in my case).It is normal i'm a new user here, i see your website on Google, the first transaction i made was 0.8BTC. after a while, the game was not completed. You don't have contact page on your website but i found a link "Discuss on Bitcointalk.org". Let's see transaction time and my registration on the forum... (It's same). You are right, it was my first bet... i played before on binary trading and played big amont. It's a crime to play big bet ? And i played later on your website until i see it was over limit... I never played txdice... my first bet was on ODD EVEN x2. The game was not played, right? so why you don't want to refund ? O.o Please refund me, i will remove trust and will edit all negative about you. can you tell me other proof that you are not a partner of rabiow12? The circumstances of the time, I have reason to doubt you. but it is just doubt.
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My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam. so payout for the scam was not proceeded. at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited). and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer. so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited . 2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours). 3. the requester were newbie. ( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id. the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding .. you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too. thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you. but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses and there is no any information . if he bets first , 0.8 btc is too big amount . most people initially start small. i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12. i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or more transactions thank you. Hello, secondstrade, please don't ignore message, i wrote clear situation.I'm not rabiow12 (i don't know him...) and he is not in my case. (tautvilis was in my case).It is normal i'm a new user here, i see your website on Google, the first transaction i made was 0.8BTC. after a while, the game was not completed. You don't have contact page on your website but i found a link "Discuss on Bitcointalk.org". Let's see transaction time and my registration on the forum... (It's same). You are right, it was my first bet... i played before on binary trading and played big amont. It's a crime to play big bet ? And i played later on your website until i see it was over limit... I never played txdice... my first bet was on ODD EVEN x2. The game was not played, right? so why you don't want to refund ? O.o Please refund me, i will remove trust and will edit all negative about you. can you tell me other proof that you are not a partner of rabiow12? The circumstances of the time, I have reason to doubt you. but it is just doubt. I agree with you, registration time has difference of 2 days... What other proof do you want? i don't have other proof... sincerely and i don't know how to prove it. Let's see how i'm typing and him. I deleted my negative trust against you. Contact OP, whatever you want i'm not rabiow12 and not a partner, i don't know him. Check your PM, i sent you other informations
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how with the latest features for your site
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