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Yikes! This is getting really redicious by how many failed payouts there are. Imagine the amount of people who just give up and don't bother making an account to complain. You guys really need to fix your website.
yes, we agree with you. but there are a lot of things to consider. .. we are keep considering about that and we are fixing the payout system now. most of the payout have been paid , but there are some case that do not be paid . in this case, it will be paid manually now, but it will be fixed soon. thank you. why dont you mention those "things" im sure the players would be interested to know them |
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joeh6922
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November 07, 2016, 03:44:56 AM |
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joeh6922
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November 07, 2016, 03:57:32 AM |
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I'd like to say that maybe some of you guys should lay off secondstrade a little bit.
Yes there have been some issues, and I don't agree with everything, but all in all the admin has been a pretty stand up guy.
What everyone seems to forget is that this is GAMBLING. In every type of gambling I've ever seen, the house has the odds on their side. Otherwise the house would not even exist. The more you play, the higher the likelyhood of you LOSING. Looking at the math, you WILL lose overall in the end, unless you are just one extremely lucky person there is no way around it. Bottom line is that, if you can't afford to lose the money, DO NOT GAMBLE WITH IT. That's a sure fire way to make sure you lose every penny.
I play alot at secondstrade, win some lose some, have some payout issues, but he always fixes it. I don't think he is any kind of scam, or being sneaky or unfair. He doesn't need to, the odds are in his favor already, remember? Getting pissed off and bashing him in a forumbecause you were silly enough to gamble away money that you need desperately is just lame. Seriously. .
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November 07, 2016, 04:19:14 AM |
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I'd like to say that maybe some of you guys should lay off secondstrade a little bit.
Yes there have been some issues, and I don't agree with everything, but all in all the admin has been a pretty stand up guy.
What everyone seems to forget is that this is GAMBLING. In every type of gambling I've ever seen, the house has the odds on their side. Otherwise the house would not even exist. The more you play, the higher the likelyhood of you LOSING. Looking at the math, you WILL lose overall in the end, unless you are just one extremely lucky person there is no way around it. Bottom line is that, if you can't afford to lose the money, DO NOT GAMBLE WITH IT. That's a sure fire way to make sure you lose every penny.
I play alot at secondstrade, win some lose some, have some payout issues, but he always fixes it. I don't think he is any kind of scam, or being sneaky or unfair. He doesn't need to, the odds are in his favor already, remember? Getting pissed off and bashing him in a forumbecause you were silly enough to gamble away money that you need desperately is just lame. Seriously. .
I have not played binary options in this site with some problems as : Delay times Can not control your bid with their quotes provider in short times ( orther sites use the average value of ask price and bid price, but secondstrade just use ask price) so you can get an incredible value when you bid or lost in a moment ( actually I got this situation a lot). They never admit their faults, always trying to turn it into the player's fault ( by blaming blockchain.info ) so i recommend you guys play binary options on liberoptions.com , iqoption.com or olymptrade.com for best support and fair  |
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Nimbulan
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November 07, 2016, 04:19:16 AM |
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I'd like to say that maybe some of you guys should lay off secondstrade a little bit.
Yes there have been some issues, and I don't agree with everything, but all in all the admin has been a pretty stand up guy.
What everyone seems to forget is that this is GAMBLING. In every type of gambling I've ever seen, the house has the odds on their side. Otherwise the house would not even exist. The more you play, the higher the likelyhood of you LOSING. Looking at the math, you WILL lose overall in the end, unless you are just one extremely lucky person there is no way around it. Bottom line is that, if you can't afford to lose the money, DO NOT GAMBLE WITH IT. That's a sure fire way to make sure you lose every penny.
I play alot at secondstrade, win some lose some, have some payout issues, but he always fixes it. I don't think he is any kind of scam, or being sneaky or unfair. He doesn't need to, the odds are in his favor already, remember? Getting pissed off and bashing him in a forumbecause you were silly enough to gamble away money that you need desperately is just lame. Seriously. .
well he never gave any decent reason why they dont fix the payouts and I have never seen that happening anywhere else on a decent gambling website, not giving any reason why its not working is really fishy and I wouldnt be surprised if its not being fixed intentionally |
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joeh6922
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November 07, 2016, 05:23:08 AM |
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From what I can tell, it's bigger payouts that have the error usually, like 0.2BTC+. Payouts that even the sloppiest, most random, unorganized gamblers (me) notice, and won't very likely just be letting it go. Were it intentional, it would be pretty stupid, and only create a bunch of work having to come here every day and manually make payouts. I know if I had a site that had the potential to just sit and make money, with minimal input from me, I would not be trying to create work for myself. I would be kicked back on the beach in Jamaica or something, personally. That's just me though. Anyhow, I'm pretty sure that making payouts manually isn't on the list of his favorite things to do.
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savel
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November 07, 2016, 01:05:02 PM |
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savel
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November 07, 2016, 01:19:47 PM |
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let us say, transaction fee less 0.0002
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play_secondstrade
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November 07, 2016, 01:20:48 PM |
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let us say, transaction fee less 0.0002
Does that make me a doublespender? My transaction got confirmed in the first block that was mined, you can check it. |
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adaseb
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November 07, 2016, 01:26:09 PM |
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is this you?
1Hr81w9orbx5rWuAvtD6yfQFjuSZWuZnk1
If so you double spent, you sent 45 seconds later the exact same BTC with a fee thats 10x larger, that transaction confirmed and the other one will never confirm.
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November 07, 2016, 01:29:07 PM |
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MY ACCOUNT GOT HACKED DONT RETURN TO THIS ADDRESS THAT IS GIVEN, RETURN TO THE ADDRESS I SENT FFROMis this you?
1Hr81w9orbx5rWuAvtD6yfQFjuSZWuZnk1
If so you double spent, you sent 45 seconds later the exact same BTC with a fee thats 10x larger, that transaction confirmed and the other one will never confirm.
It's not me
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adaseb
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November 07, 2016, 01:36:16 PM |
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MY ACCOUNT GOT HACKED DONT RETURN TO THIS ADDRESS THAT IS GIVEN, RETURN TO THE ADDRESS I SENT FFROMis this you?
1Hr81w9orbx5rWuAvtD6yfQFjuSZWuZnk1
If so you double spent, you sent 45 seconds later the exact same BTC with a fee thats 10x larger, that transaction confirmed and the other one will never confirm.
It's not me Did your forum account get hacked or your wallet.dat file got stolen somehow. Were you the one that did the double spend attack? |
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November 07, 2016, 01:42:04 PM |
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This isn't actually binary option is it? this is more like gambling to me and the name is misleading imo.
There are binary option tradings services out there which are not gamble but depend on real data and market changes, if this was like that it'd be great.
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November 07, 2016, 01:43:06 PM |
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MY ACCOUNT GOT HACKED DONT RETURN TO THIS ADDRESS THAT IS GIVEN, RETURN TO THE ADDRESS I SENT FFROMis this you?
1Hr81w9orbx5rWuAvtD6yfQFjuSZWuZnk1
If so you double spent, you sent 45 seconds later the exact same BTC with a fee thats 10x larger, that transaction confirmed and the other one will never confirm.
It's not me Did your forum account get hacked or your wallet.dat file got stolen somehow. Were you the one that did the double spend attack? Someone managed to guessed my forum password, the refund shouldn't be send to the address that is stated in the post, it should be sent to the address that I sent the transaction from. Also I did not double spend anything http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=354c6a722b17287b2b2b3168813c572a5814a4dfaaeaa8cd1a25aa6ef34a9696this transaction is mine and it is the only one I have ever done to secondstrade address. |
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adaseb
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November 07, 2016, 01:53:22 PM |
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This isn't actually binary option is it? this is more like gambling to me and the name is misleading imo.
There are binary option tradings services out there which are not gamble but depend on real data and market changes, if this was like that it'd be great.
They have some Forex and Gold and Oil and S&P 500 pairs which are real binary options since they are backed by the actual market rates. But people mostly use this website for the 5 second guess type options which are pretty much a gamble based on luck. The BTC/USD binary options are disabled due to some hack that was pulled a few months ago. |
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adaseb
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November 07, 2016, 01:55:43 PM |
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MY ACCOUNT GOT HACKED DONT RETURN TO THIS ADDRESS THAT IS GIVEN, RETURN TO THE ADDRESS I SENT FFROMis this you?
1Hr81w9orbx5rWuAvtD6yfQFjuSZWuZnk1
If so you double spent, you sent 45 seconds later the exact same BTC with a fee thats 10x larger, that transaction confirmed and the other one will never confirm.
It's not me Did your forum account get hacked or your wallet.dat file got stolen somehow. Were you the one that did the double spend attack? Someone managed to guessed my forum password, the refund shouldn't be send to the address that is stated in the post, it should be sent to the address that I sent the transaction from. Also I did not double spend anything http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=354c6a722b17287b2b2b3168813c572a5814a4dfaaeaa8cd1a25aa6ef34a9696this transaction is mine and it is the only one I have ever done to secondstrade address. Yeah don't worry about that, the admin only sends it back to the address where it origined from to prevent these types of abuses. Plus when you make a bet, you can only bet from your own wallet since its automatically sent back to you. |
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November 07, 2016, 02:00:22 PM |
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MY ACCOUNT GOT HACKED DONT RETURN TO THIS ADDRESS THAT IS GIVEN, RETURN TO THE ADDRESS I SENT FFROMis this you?
1Hr81w9orbx5rWuAvtD6yfQFjuSZWuZnk1
If so you double spent, you sent 45 seconds later the exact same BTC with a fee thats 10x larger, that transaction confirmed and the other one will never confirm.
It's not me Did your forum account get hacked or your wallet.dat file got stolen somehow. Were you the one that did the double spend attack? Someone managed to guessed my forum password, the refund shouldn't be send to the address that is stated in the post, it should be sent to the address that I sent the transaction from. Also I did not double spend anything http://secondstrade.com/tx.jsp?tx=354c6a722b17287b2b2b3168813c572a5814a4dfaaeaa8cd1a25aa6ef34a9696this transaction is mine and it is the only one I have ever done to secondstrade address. Yeah don't worry about that, the admin only sends it back to the address where it origined from to prevent these types of abuses. Plus when you make a bet, you can only bet from your own wallet since its automatically sent back to you. Ok I got it, thank you for your help  |
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adaseb
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November 07, 2016, 02:53:57 PM |
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These double spends are occuring more and more. Basically they make a bet, see if they win, if they win they do nothing. If they lose then they do a double spend attack by sending 10x the miners reward so most likely the second transaction will confirm and the first won't. The solution to this would make an entire site redesign so we have an account with a password and have a BTC balance we can trade with. It would fix all these double spends AND hopefully no more of these missed payments.
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