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October 16, 2016, 05:51:38 PM |
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You can set a new rule like "Bets with fee > or = 0.0001 BTC can be played". |
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prominerx
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October 16, 2016, 09:35:41 PM |
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cabron
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October 16, 2016, 09:58:51 PM |
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its been an issue ever since, you can't let users kept asking for refunds. secondstrade should be fixing this problem.
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anhbao1608
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October 17, 2016, 01:54:13 AM |
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please fix problem of delay showbet. it delay along time,not good.
Thanks.
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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October 17, 2016, 01:57:53 AM |
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Hi? Everyone ?
If transaction fee is below 0.0001, the transaction will not be bet.
It is to defence double spendig attack.
If one of the transaction have 1 confirmation, we will refund it.
Thank you.
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axrhuls
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October 17, 2016, 04:33:48 AM |
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Exactly. I am sufficiently certain that rabiow12 is one of the players who abused this vulnerability. and very likely a liar.
Any evidences to back-up your claims ? If he is one who abused the vulnerability,wouldn't he take the profits and disappear instead of demanding the coins which he genuinely lost ? If you scroll back a few pages,secondstrade says they lost about 9 bitcoins and they won't be refunding anybody.Doesn't make sense to me.It is basically their fault.And on-topic they haven't replied to rabiow's claims with any logical reasons.Calling him a scammer doesn't make him one. Secondstrade is a scammer, very obvious, like you said, they don't want to pay 9 bitcoin. |
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axrhuls
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October 17, 2016, 04:35:57 AM |
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its been an issue ever since, you can't let users kept asking for refunds. secondstrade should be fixing this problem.
They will not fix it, you know why? Asking refund here is a way to bump the thread, to scam more noobs, to scam more people, it is free traffic. |
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secondstrade.com (OP)
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October 17, 2016, 12:26:26 PM |
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My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam.
so payout for the scam was not proceeded.
at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited).
and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer.
so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited .
2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours).
3. the requester were newbie.
( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id.
the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding ..
you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too. thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you. but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses and there is no any information . if he bets first , 0.8 btc is too big amount . most people initially start small. i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12. i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or more transactions thank you. It is normal i'm a new user here, i see your website on Google, the first transaction i made was 0.8BTC. after a while, the game was not completed. You don't have contact page on your website but i found a link "Discuss on Bitcointalk.org". Let's see transaction time and my registration on the forum... (It's same). You are right, it was my first bet... i played before on binary trading and played big amont. It's a crime to play big bet ? And i played later on your website until i see it was over limit... I never played txdice... my first bet was on ODD EVEN x2. The game was not played, right? so why you don't want to refund ? O.o Please refund me, i will remove trust and will edit all negative about you. the refund was completed now. we can not any other proof that you have relation whith rabiow12. sorry for late refund and doubt . refund transaction id is https://blockchain.info/tx/ada08d5f6659ccf29c357384da3fe3193d68166ef99bdecb54c9f5bb68fa0898thank you. |
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qwertygv15
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October 17, 2016, 12:57:18 PM |
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anhbao1608
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October 17, 2016, 01:55:34 PM |
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congratulations...!!!!
admin win about 10btc.
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Cryptorast
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October 17, 2016, 02:23:35 PM |
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congratulations...!!!!
admin win about 10btc.
Yeah! |
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savel
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October 17, 2016, 03:01:58 PM |
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sp3edm
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October 17, 2016, 07:35:34 PM |
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My bet was finally (after a week of waiting) refunded. Thank you to everyone who had replied in this topic, PM'ed secondstrade, or added him negative feedback. I have removed my negative feedback and I will be messaging Vod and suchmoon that I no longer have any complaints about secondstrade. Today I got this PM from secondstrade: but at the day, our hot wallet balance was become insufficient , because the scam.
so payout for the scam was not proceeded.
at the time, these two amount above max(0.9 and 0.8 were deposited).
and these bitcoin were also paid to the scammer.
so we thought that the two bet will be partner of the scammer or scammer themselves.
the reason that we thought such that.
1. the bitcoin above max amount did not often deposited .
2. scam time was very short (about 30 minutes ~1 hours).
3. the requester were newbie.
( i don't think the will be a newbie. they have a ability that can select transaction id.
the reason that they are newbie is because they do not want to know who is. )
but for you , we will consider refunding ..
you are not a newbie , and we can not find a proof that you are partner of them.
please wait some more.
Their reasoning behind my delay of refund is pretty logical considering they were the ones who suffered a loss. Though regarding sp3edm case, yes it is strange that this happened exactly at this time and his first (and only) transaction was over a limit. But that is no way near enough for anyone to consider it as a valid proof. My advice is that you should probably refund sp3edm his 0.8BTC or else I doubt you will get out of red trust rating, and I doubt you will get any new players. As of rabiow12 I have already given my analysis so if I were to bet whether he did or didn't abuse it I would bet on, that he did abuse it. rabiow12 has already lied after he was asked if he's at profit, and is still lying that it was all his Bitcoins left, so I wouldn't be surprised if he lied about not abusing the game too. If you don't want to refund rabiow12 you will have to talk it through with Vod and suchmoon and explain it with all the proofs on your thread too. thank you for your help. and very sorry that i doubted you. but sp3edm's case is not a your case. he is newbie , and his bet is only one or use multiple addresses and there is no any information . if he bets first , 0.8 btc is too big amount . most people initially start small. i still think that he may be partner of rabiow12. i think he have to show more proof that he is not a partner of rabiow12 or more transactions thank you. It is normal i'm a new user here, i see your website on Google, the first transaction i made was 0.8BTC. after a while, the game was not completed. You don't have contact page on your website but i found a link "Discuss on Bitcointalk.org". Let's see transaction time and my registration on the forum... (It's same). You are right, it was my first bet... i played before on binary trading and played big amont. It's a crime to play big bet ? And i played later on your website until i see it was over limit... I never played txdice... my first bet was on ODD EVEN x2. The game was not played, right? so why you don't want to refund ? O.o Please refund me, i will remove trust and will edit all negative about you. the refund was completed now. we can not any other proof that you have relation whith rabiow12. sorry for late refund and doubt . refund transaction id is https://blockchain.info/tx/ada08d5f6659ccf29c357384da3fe3193d68166ef99bdecb54c9f5bb68fa0898thank you. THANKS YOU SECONDSTRADE  Have a nice day ! |
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anhbao1608
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October 18, 2016, 04:11:18 AM |
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hi admin,you should made a small even of second member,because your site earn than 10btc after one night,lol.... |
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qwertygv15
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October 18, 2016, 09:37:04 AM |
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adaseb
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October 18, 2016, 11:13:52 AM |
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I had these huge 30 seconds delays happen also in the past, thats why I find it very risky to do anytype of 60-300 second scalps with this website. I don't think its the sites fault but the way it was relayed. |
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joeh6922
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October 19, 2016, 02:50:37 AM |
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