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July 13, 2018, 09:20:27 PM |
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I am quite sure that most that read these forums have no idea about clif high. As an avid reader of his works for about a decade, I will include some content from his most recent ALTA_2018_JulyCrypto.pdf so that the average reader can garner some context: data sets...are suggesting that a 'failure' within their 'governance model' will produce both 'discord' and (internal) contention' at levels that will 'threaten dissolution' of the 'effort.'
...at least one incident of 'manipulation' will be 'emerging (around) Cloak'...
Perhaps the management would like to address, specifically what, if any, failure of their governance model might occur. Could such, if any, be based upon manipulation? Further data suggests that within the early December economic chaos (both in CryptoSpace and DebtSpace) Cloak coin again has 'failure' reaching levels that have 'diminishing support (within its community)' as the dominating language. Cliff "High" and his spider bots that comb the Internet? Good grief. You have to be "high" to listen to his radio sessions. EDIT: From Cliff's July ALTA report -- "You admit to being mentally deficient if you invest real world assets based on this advice..." I couldn't have said it better. That Cliff, he is a shifty one with a wicked sense of humor! Interesting but somewhat true analysis He has also been quite wrong with his market predictions. It looks to me like that Cliff guy is covering for his mistakes and just turns on earlier predictions a bit.. Cloak is my true underdog in my portfolio and the one with imo big potential. Been holding most of my coins for over a year now. Cliff won’t make me sell :p Did Cliff talk anything about Cloak in specific? If yes I totally missed that, but isn't he more of a guy trying to explain things on the macro level? Further data suggests that within the early December economic chaos (both in CryptoSpace and DebtSpace) Cloak coin again has 'failure' reaching levels that have 'diminishing support (within its community)' as the dominating language. If Cloak management doesn't answer my question, specifically, I feel that I will be contributing to the last sentence of the above quote. Humm... In that case, refer to your own tag line: "I'm glad I'm not judgmental like all you smug, superficial idiots"
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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin
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July 13, 2018, 10:27:14 PM |
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I am quite sure that most that read these forums have no idea about clif high. As an avid reader of his works for about a decade, I will include some content from his most recent ALTA_2018_JulyCrypto.pdf so that the average reader can garner some context: data sets...are suggesting that a 'failure' within their 'governance model' will produce both 'discord' and (internal) contention' at levels that will 'threaten dissolution' of the 'effort.'
...at least one incident of 'manipulation' will be 'emerging (around) Cloak'...
Perhaps the management would like to address, specifically what, if any, failure of their governance model might occur. Could such, if any, be based upon manipulation? Further data suggests that within the early December economic chaos (both in CryptoSpace and DebtSpace) Cloak coin again has 'failure' reaching levels that have 'diminishing support (within its community)' as the dominating language. Cliff "High" and his spider bots that comb the Internet? Good grief. You have to be "high" to listen to his radio sessions. EDIT: From Cliff's July ALTA report -- "You admit to being mentally deficient if you invest real world assets based on this advice..." I couldn't have said it better. That Cliff, he is a shifty one with a wicked sense of humor! Interesting but somewhat true analysis He has also been quite wrong with his market predictions. It looks to me like that Cliff guy is covering for his mistakes and just turns on earlier predictions a bit.. Cloak is my true underdog in my portfolio and the one with imo big potential. Been holding most of my coins for over a year now. Cliff won’t make me sell :p Did Cliff talk anything about Cloak in specific? If yes I totally missed that, but isn't he more of a guy trying to explain things on the macro level? Further data suggests that within the early December economic chaos (both in CryptoSpace and DebtSpace) Cloak coin again has 'failure' reaching levels that have 'diminishing support (within its community)' as the dominating language. If Cloak management doesn't answer my question, specifically, I feel that I will be contributing to the last sentence of the above quote. Humm... In that case, refer to your own tag line: "I'm glad I'm not judgmental like all you smug, superficial idiots" Uhh, you do realize that that statement is pure sarcasm, right?
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Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature on optimism, and die on euphoria. - John Templeton
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July 14, 2018, 06:58:29 AM Last edit: July 14, 2018, 07:39:38 AM by PetATL |
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http://www.cloakphone.com Nice use cloakphone with cloakcoin we can beat bitcoin 👍
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R-J-F
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July 15, 2018, 06:35:18 PM |
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After it got listed on binance, the price went from $15 to $3.5. STAY THE FUCK AWAY!
How about YOU stay the FUCK away huh? There is no scam here, go bother someone else...
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July 16, 2018, 08:12:17 AM |
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Is that a real smartphone or just the operating system?
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July 16, 2018, 10:47:11 PM Last edit: July 16, 2018, 11:04:26 PM by cloakteam |
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Dear CLOAK Community,
We're glad to announce that CloakCoin is listed on Indacoin exchange.
Indacoin is a London-based Bitcoin exchange that enables the quickest Bitcoin purchases in more than 200 countries with a debit or credit card and no registration. It was founded in 2013 and can be used in many languages like English, Chinese, Spanish, and Russian.
Buy now!
Peace & Love
Team Cloak
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Life is like a box of chocolates :)
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July 17, 2018, 08:40:47 AM |
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Congratulations with CLOAK being accepted as way of payment at Indacoin. 2018 is a long yesr and people’s patience is being tested, but at least the Lambo’s are back in storage and things feel more realistic again.. In it for the long term with you guys 🍀💪
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vinnieG
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July 17, 2018, 08:46:44 AM |
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Dear CLOAK Community,
We're glad to announce that CloakCoin is listed on Indacoin exchange.
Indacoin is a London-based Bitcoin exchange that enables the quickest Bitcoin purchases in more than 200 countries with a debit or credit card and no registration. It was founded in 2013 and can be used in many languages like English, Chinese, Spanish, and Russian.
Buy now!
Peace & Love
Team Cloak
Well done Cloak team! Keep up the good work!
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July 17, 2018, 02:14:46 PM |
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July 18, 2018, 04:17:21 PM |
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After it got listed on binance, the price went from $15 to $3.5. STAY THE FUCK AWAY!
lol wtf are you talking about dude? prior to listing on Binance, Cloak coin was $5 as with every other coin in this bear market, it was continuously declining. Upon listing to Binance it pumped to $15 and again continued to decline. Let me guess..... You Fomo'd and bought it at a high as you didn't know what you where doing and now you're talking s**t because you lost money and want to blame anyone but yourself. Thanks for buying my bags during pump asshole Love you xxx
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July 18, 2018, 09:39:00 PM |
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After it got listed on binance, the price went from $15 to $3.5. STAY THE FUCK AWAY!
lol wtf are you talking about dude? prior to listing on Binance, Cloak coin was $5 as with every other coin in this bear market, it was continuously declining. Upon listing to Binance it pumped to $15 and again continued to decline. Let me guess..... You Fomo'd and bought it at a high as you didn't know what you where doing and now you're talking s**t because you lost money and want to blame anyone but yourself. Thanks for buying my bags during pump asshole Love you xxx From all his previous posts I can get only one conclusion, he doesn't know nothing about Cloak, nor he is trying to find out. His influence here on the mood is insignificant, not to mention pathetic account name..Typical troll. Actually I'm not sure what he is actually trying to do here, I only know that this is not constructive talk and he can easely be qualified as spamer, and this easely can be the end of his involment in this forum.
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July 19, 2018, 05:39:00 PM |
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Have you already read the CloakCoin-Enigma whitepaper? If you’re strapped for time, you can listen on the go to the audio version now!
cloakcoin.com/whitepaper
Peace & Love
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July 21, 2018, 01:29:45 PM |
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i also invested in cloak but i want to say that cloak also in P&D list because many time cloak price increase much but there is no any stability in price. investment in cloak so risky i can say much risky. i am not against cloak i also invested buy on between 0.002 to 0.003 btc price just look 35 usd ATH now down to 3.8 usd now
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July 21, 2018, 06:01:27 PM |
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After it got listed on binance, the price went from $15 to $3.5. STAY THE FUCK AWAY!
lol wtf are you talking about dude? prior to listing on Binance, Cloak coin was $5 as with every other coin in this bear market, it was continuously declining. Upon listing to Binance it pumped to $15 and again continued to decline. Let me guess..... You Fomo'd and bought it at a high as you didn't know what you where doing and now you're talking s**t because you lost money and want to blame anyone but yourself. Thanks for buying my bags during pump asshole Love you xxx From all his previous posts I can get only one conclusion, he doesn't know nothing about Cloak, nor he is trying to find out. His influence here on the mood is insignificant, not to mention pathetic account name..Typical troll. Actually I'm not sure what he is actually trying to do here, I only know that this is not constructive talk and he can easely be qualified as spamer, and this easely can be the end of his involment in this forum. Say hello to <$1. And the other moron weighs in. Don't you have something else to do instead of spending your time making stupid statements here? Let guess, you own and support another privacy coin and you are trolling for profit. Pathetic moron...
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R-J-F
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July 21, 2018, 06:03:20 PM |
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After it got listed on binance, the price went from $15 to $3.5. STAY THE FUCK AWAY!
lol wtf are you talking about dude? prior to listing on Binance, Cloak coin was $5 as with every other coin in this bear market, it was continuously declining. Upon listing to Binance it pumped to $15 and again continued to decline. Let me guess..... You Fomo'd and bought it at a high as you didn't know what you where doing and now you're talking s**t because you lost money and want to blame anyone but yourself. Thanks for buying my bags during pump asshole Love you xxx From all his previous posts I can get only one conclusion, he doesn't know nothing about Cloak, nor he is trying to find out. His influence here on the mood is insignificant, not to mention pathetic account name..Typical troll. Actually I'm not sure what he is actually trying to do here, I only know that this is not constructive talk and he can easely be qualified as spamer, and this easely can be the end of his involment in this forum. pumped to $15 before Binance. No one believes in cloakcoin. It was just P&D for the binance listing. RIP. Please don't play with the adult toys, they will hurt you in the long run...
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July 22, 2018, 03:06:58 AM |
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The problem with most POS coins is that they have no intrinsic value.
In Cloak's case there is also inflation with no incentive to secure the network. POS3, if implemented, should go some way to resolving this issue.
At least with POW coins the minimum value of the coins is linked to the energy cost associated with mining them.
I like Cloak but it won't take much effort for a better established, better funded PoW coin to clone Enigma and leave Cloak without a unique value proposition.
I hope this doesn't happen but I feel it is inevitable. Cloak will eventually become a victim of having good technology but being too small and slow to implement.
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July 22, 2018, 06:04:41 PM |
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I am quite sure that most that read these forums have no idea about clif high. As an avid reader of his works for about a decade, I will include some content from his most recent ALTA_2018_JulyCrypto.pdf so that the average reader can garner some context: data sets...are suggesting that a 'failure' within their 'governance model' will produce both 'discord' and (internal) contention' at levels that will 'threaten dissolution' of the 'effort.'
...at least one incident of 'manipulation' will be 'emerging (around) Cloak'...
Perhaps the management would like to address, specifically what, if any, failure of their governance model might occur. Could such, if any, be based upon manipulation? Cliff "High" and his spider bots that comb the Internet? Good grief. You have to be "high" to listen to his radio sessions. EDIT: From Cliff's July ALTA report -- "You admit to being mentally deficient if you invest real world assets based on this advice..." I couldn't have said it better. That Cliff, he is a shifty one with a wicked sense of humor! Interesting but somewhat true analysis He has also been quite wrong with his market predictions. It looks to me like that Cliff guy is covering for his mistakes and just turns on earlier predictions a bit.. Cloak is my true underdog in my portfolio and the one with imo big potential. Been holding most of my coins for over a year now. Cliff won’t make me sell :p I follow Clif and he has said different things at different times about privacy coins like Cloak. These may go up in value as the system collapses or goes through changes, but needless to say, governments don't like them. I am holding on to my Cloak as I see a good chance that their value may increase and I can make a profit from holding them. With Clif's work it is good to keep in mind that what his data actually tracks is changes in mood or outlook. That can change a lot over time. And now we have a new element entering the picture, manipulation by certain groups and individuals. That really messes up some of his predictions and interpretations. His strongest areas seem to be weather, earth changes, and secrets revealed.
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July 22, 2018, 08:29:54 PM |
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Hi;
Bear in mind, whales likes to much low cap projects like Cloak.
Kind regards
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July 23, 2018, 09:16:45 PM |
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Dear CLOAK Community,
We're pleased to announce the CloakCoin v2.2.0.0-beta 'rEVOLUTION' wallet for Linux and RPi/aarch64.
The Windows & Mac wallet will be available soon.
THESE WALLETS ARE IN PUBLIC BETA NOW - WARNING: STILL EXPERIMENTAL!!!
Version 2.2.0.0 'rEVOLUTION' brings various fixes & improvements; biggest change is full wallet file encryption/decryption on exit/start, fixing a major anonymity flaw detected and explained in Cognosec's audit report (balance & transaction information access).
For improved and added security, users can now enter a password on every wallet shutdown (if they want), fully encrypting the wallet file information, including balance & transactions. Users will be prompted for a passphrase to decrypt their wallet on startup if needed, software will automatically detect whether it's a standard or an encrypted wallet.
IMPORTANT: As always, please DON'T forget the passphrase entered - the coins/funds will be lost and wallet file rendered unusable!
The 'Encrypt wallet' functionality previously available in the wallet is still there - keep in mind it will only encrypt your private keys though, an evil actor with unrestricted access to your wallet.dat (such as a backup) might still view your balance and transactions data. 'Backup wallet' functionality was not modified and still creates standard/unencrypted backups - if you want to store an encrypted backup please exit the wallet, encrypt it with a passphrase when prompted and store a copy of current wallet.dat file.
Changes done:
- fully encrypted wallet.dat on QT wallet exit: safer storage of your wallet.dat & restricted access to account/transaction info (**backup wallet function still makes unencrypted backups**) - DLLs required and the app install folder are now read-only & hidden; elevated privileges required for write access - optimized loading performance by doing smart things with big numbers calculations: 20% faster blockchain index loading time - increased dbcache defaults in src/db.cpp & src/txdb-leveldb.cpp, resulted in 30-50% speed performance increase for syncing blocks - removal of BigNum dependency in some code parts & trust calculation optimization (uint256) seems to have fixed the memory leak/bloat on both QT & daemon (yay Anorak!)
Planned/in-progress TODOs:
- dev fund & governance - voting system (solid idea in place, wfc) - reskin the UI to something more modern (designs exist) - phase out BigNum completely and other possible structs/types that prevent compiling with openssl 1.1.x - upgrade btc-dependent code to more recent btc/ltc codebase (not looking forward to that, long overdue)
Linux Wallet (Debian/Kali build):
Download
RPi Wallet :
Download
The CloakCoin source code is on different repository. Head over to CloakCoin repository to view the code, open issues related to code and send pull requests.
For additional help and support you can find us on Rocketchat or view the CloakWiki
Peace & Love
Team Cloak
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