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April 09, 2015, 02:12:31 PM
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Web wallet is undergoing some maintenance while we update it. Thank you for your patience.
In preparation of new features? new release? Dare I ask...

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April 09, 2015, 03:12:34 PM
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Really, can somebody either explain or give me a hint or a link on how Horizon/NXT Assets can be deleted after they are no longer valid?

I might start a very small experimental asset for some real life physical goods - but if one day the goods are sold, the asset holders should sell their asset shares back to me (for the value of the sold goods), and after they did, of course the shares have to be destroyed (because the goods can only be sold once). How do I do it?

Does it have something to do with the coloured coins like in this quote:?

...as the colored coins are turned in for services, they will be sent to a "burn" account and never used again, essentially removed from the supply and increasing the rarity.

And is there something in the NXT (HZ) system which can destroy obviously invalid, outdated assets? I asked this question before without any answer:

A question about assets:

There seem to be old assets in the system, e.g. assets for bets on the worldcup 2014. Will they stay there forever or is there a way to remove them?

I just want to understand it, or is this an unsolved problem in the system?

Thank you

P.S. Maybe I should look for the explanation on the NXT forum, not here...
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Really, can somebody either explain or give me a hint or a link on how Horizon/NXT Assets can be deleted after they are no longer valid?

I might start a very small experimental asset for some real life physical goods - but if one day the goods are sold, the asset holders should sell their asset shares back to me (for the value of the sold goods), and after they did, of course the shares have to be destroyed (because the goods can only be sold once). How do I do it?

Does it have something to do with the coloured coins like in this quote:?

...as the colored coins are turned in for services, they will be sent to a "burn" account and never used again, essentially removed from the supply and increasing the rarity.

And is there something in the NXT (HZ) system which can destroy obviously invalid, outdated assets? I asked this question before without any answer:

A question about assets:

There seem to be old assets in the system, e.g. assets for bets on the worldcup 2014. Will they stay there forever or is there a way to remove them?

I just want to understand it, or is this an unsolved problem in the system?

Thank you

P.S. Maybe I should look for the explanation on the NXT forum, not here...

You can send unused assets to genesis account. Just I don't ID of it. Maybe somebody from devs can write here ID of genesis account.

EDIT: Seems genesis account ID is NHZ-8HAA-H88W-UVT5-DUGLV. If yous send HZ or asset to it, they are gone forever.
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April 09, 2015, 04:18:04 PM
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Really, can somebody either explain or give me a hint or a link on how Horizon/NXT Assets can be deleted after they are no longer valid?

I might start a very small experimental asset for some real life physical goods - but if one day the goods are sold, the asset holders should sell their asset shares back to me (for the value of the sold goods), and after they did, of course the shares have to be destroyed (because the goods can only be sold once). How do I do it?

Does it have something to do with the coloured coins like in this quote:?

...as the colored coins are turned in for services, they will be sent to a "burn" account and never used again, essentially removed from the supply and increasing the rarity.

And is there something in the NXT (HZ) system which can destroy obviously invalid, outdated assets? I asked this question before without any answer:

A question about assets:

There seem to be old assets in the system, e.g. assets for bets on the worldcup 2014. Will they stay there forever or is there a way to remove them?

I just want to understand it, or is this an unsolved problem in the system?

Thank you

P.S. Maybe I should look for the explanation on the NXT forum, not here...

You can send unused assets to genesis account. Just I don't ID of it. Maybe somebody from devs can write here ID of genesis account.

EDIT: Seems genesis account ID is NHZ-8HAA-H88W-UVT5-DUGLV. If yous send HZ or asset to it, they are gone forever.

NHZ-8HAA-H88W-UVT5-DUGLV is right, Account with alias genesis.

See:
https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=account&id=13675701959091502344
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April 09, 2015, 04:42:12 PM
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Really, can somebody either explain or give me a hint or a link on how Horizon/NXT Assets can be deleted after they are no longer valid?

I might start a very small experimental asset for some real life physical goods - but if one day the goods are sold, the asset holders should sell their asset shares back to me (for the value of the sold goods), and after they did, of course the shares have to be destroyed (because the goods can only be sold once). How do I do it?

Does it have something to do with the coloured coins like in this quote:?

...as the colored coins are turned in for services, they will be sent to a "burn" account and never used again, essentially removed from the supply and increasing the rarity.

And is there something in the NXT (HZ) system which can destroy obviously invalid, outdated assets? I asked this question before without any answer:

A question about assets:

There seem to be old assets in the system, e.g. assets for bets on the worldcup 2014. Will they stay there forever or is there a way to remove them?

I just want to understand it, or is this an unsolved problem in the system?

Thank you

P.S. Maybe I should look for the explanation on the NXT forum, not here...

You can send unused assets to genesis account. Just I don't ID of it. Maybe somebody from devs can write here ID of genesis account.

EDIT: Seems genesis account ID is NHZ-8HAA-H88W-UVT5-DUGLV. If yous send HZ or asset to it, they are gone forever.

NHZ-8HAA-H88W-UVT5-DUGLV is right, Account with alias genesis.

See:
https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=account&id=13675701959091502344

Good, thank you  Smiley at least this problem would be solved - though for a wider use, imho, there should be some option directly included in the asset handling or in the "issue asset" function (the newest NXT superNET wallet seemingly has some asset functions like automatic dividend distribution included, but no function like "delete assets"  as far as I understand it).

And the problem of "asset corpses" seems to remain. This will also be disturbing with more and more assets accumulating over the years...
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April 09, 2015, 05:25:17 PM
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Hey !!

Is there a genesis account to HZ?
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April 09, 2015, 05:50:14 PM
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Hey !!

Is there a genesis account to HZ?

This is ridiculous Smiley you made my day Smiley
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April 09, 2015, 06:03:40 PM
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Hey !!

Is there a genesis account to HZ?

This is ridiculous Smiley you made my day Smiley


I'm happy I made you laugh Smiley

but can you answer the question?
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April 09, 2015, 06:14:29 PM
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Hey !!

Is there a genesis account to HZ?

This is ridiculous Smiley you made my day Smiley


I'm happy I made you laugh Smiley

but can you answer the question?


Do you know a coin without genesis?

To satisfy your curiosity: See 4 posts back.
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April 09, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
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Hey !!

Is there a genesis account to HZ?

This is ridiculous Smiley you made my day Smiley


I'm happy I made you laugh Smiley

but can you answer the question?


Spent additional seconds of my life: could you please check few post before you question? Smiley
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April 09, 2015, 07:12:04 PM
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Web wallet is still downloading the blockchain for almost 24 hours?
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April 09, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
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Hey !!

Is there a genesis account to HZ?

This is ridiculous Smiley you made my day Smiley


I'm happy I made you laugh Smiley

but can you answer the question?


Do you know a coin without genesis?

To satisfy your curiosity: See 4 posts back.

ok ok...
what i meant, and wasn't clear at all i guess is whether there is a genesis account which acts as a provably unspendable address?
like the one in NXT.
 
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April 09, 2015, 08:33:59 PM
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Hey !!

Is there a genesis account to HZ?

This is ridiculous Smiley you made my day Smiley


I'm happy I made you laugh Smiley

but can you answer the question?


Do you know a coin without genesis?

To satisfy your curiosity: See 4 posts back.

ok ok...
what i meant, and wasn't clear at all i guess is whether there is a genesis account which acts as a provably unspendable address?
like the one in NXT.
 

Yes, HZ is clone of NXT.
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April 09, 2015, 09:44:56 PM
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Web wallet is still downloading the blockchain for almost 24 hours?


Still down for maintenance.

I'm on Twitter: @mBTCPizpie
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April 10, 2015, 12:13:13 AM
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6 hours (and counting) to transfer from my wallet to trex doesn't seem normal.
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April 10, 2015, 03:15:13 AM
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6 hours (and counting) to transfer from my wallet to trex doesn't seem normal.


Did you send it with your message UNENCRYPTED???

If not just message support at trex with the transaction information and they will gladly help!
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April 10, 2015, 10:17:12 AM
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6 hours (and counting) to transfer from my wallet to trex doesn't seem normal.
Did you send it with your message UNENCRYPTED???
If not just message support at trex with the transaction information and they will gladly help!

Yes, they then have to do manual accounting.
Which can take up to 48 hours. They told me.
Open a ticket to bittrex.

Perhaps also send another tx (with a small amount of HZ)
from the same origin, and this time including the message.
Give them that tx info too. Then they can see that the originator
of both transactions knows the message.


By the way, feature request: I'd favour an automatism in the GUI
that when I type something into the message field that the
checkbox "ADD A MESSAGE?" gets activated automatically.


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April 10, 2015, 01:33:55 PM
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Hi, my web wallet is out of sync since the 1st april (and it's not a joke) and I have 32k HZ in pending, is this normal? What can I do? Just wait?


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April 10, 2015, 02:21:11 PM
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Hi, my web wallet is out of sync

Download your own node, that will solve it:

Windows:
https://horizonplatform.io/get-started/wallets/  

Linux, my new favorite way now is this one, really easy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823785.msg11013708#msg11013708



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April 10, 2015, 04:25:07 PM
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Hi, my web wallet is out of sync

Download your own node, that will solve it:

Windows:
https://horizonplatform.io/get-started/wallets/  

Linux, my new favorite way now is this one, really easy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823785.msg11013708#msg11013708

Thank you.

So, if I download the nodes I may used them in the web wallet, "forced" the synchro and getting back my HZ?

I'm sorry but I'm a noob to understand all this things, now if a web wallet exist I prefer waiting one or two years before downloading the full wallet because before this time there is to much updates and sometimes it's hard for me to doing it,  I don't want to make a mistake and lost all my coins Smiley

PS : Thank's to the dev for this really good coin  Grin
PS bis : English isn't my first language, sorry if I made some misspellings.
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