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July 05, 2015, 08:58:16 PM
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Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

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July 06, 2015, 12:09:18 AM
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The NFD swap is over.

With a total of 3.01B NFD sent to the swap address, 120M HZ (12% of the total supply) have been distributed to the former NFD community. The received NFD were sent to the genesis address.
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July 06, 2015, 12:55:50 AM
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Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

The fee of a transaction is equal to the number of nodes it is paid for.
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July 06, 2015, 07:38:41 AM
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<<Update 6>>
Here you can find a summary about the node payments of the last days.

Payment_Date | Payment per Node | Node count | Number of Payments | Node Bounties to pay | Remark | Remaining HZ
2015-06-25 | 443.06602 | 2257 | 2256 | 1,000,000 | single payments
2015-06-26 | 0.0 | ?| 0 | 1,000,000 | no paymants
2015-06-27 | 539.66541 | 1853 | 367 | 1,000,000| combined payments
2015-06-28 | 479.84645 | 2084 | 2083 | 1,000,000 | replayed payments
2015-06-29 | 591.71598 | 1690 | 391 | 1,000,000 | combined payments
2015-06-30 | 570.12543 | 1754 | 338 | 1,000,000 | combined payments
2015-06-30 | 571.10223 | -     | 1365 | - | extra payments
2015-07-01 | 571.10223 | 1751 | 2113 | 1,000,000 | combined payments
2015-07-02 | 510.20408 | 1961 | 1987 | 1,000,000 | combined payments
2015-07-03 | 495.54014 | 2018 | 2018 | 1,000,000 | combined payments
2015-07-04 | 458.08520 | 2183 | 2184 | 1,000,000 | combined payments | 148748935
2015-07-05 | 327.36754 | 2272 | 2149 | 743,744 ? | combined payments | 138900329
2015-07-06 | 351.43720 | 1976 | 1981 | 694,501 ? | combined payments | 136115844

The red values indicate incomplete payments.
2015-07-01: The extra payments late yesterday seems to be the missing payments from 2015-06-30.
2015-07-02: Seems no missing payments today.
2015-07-03: All ok.
2015-07-04: All ok.
2015-07-05: First day of new distribution method. (0.5% of remaining HZ per day)
2015-07-06: ok.
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July 06, 2015, 08:01:57 AM
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Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

The fee of a transaction is equal to the number of nodes it is paid for.


Ok, so I just get the number of payments made.
But I would like to have the number of nodes that should be paid for.
Alternatively the height of the "remaining distribution" would be ok, which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.
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July 06, 2015, 09:17:57 AM
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I am still having problems.  I now get this:

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.


Is that normal?  Where is my actual wallet?   I am not technical so an idiot guide would be great.

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July 06, 2015, 09:44:51 AM
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I am still having problems.  I now get this:

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.


Is that normal?  Where is my actual wallet?   I am not technical so an idiot guide would be great.


type http://127.0.0.1:7776/index.html in your browser
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July 06, 2015, 10:03:52 AM
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Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
    If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.


I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.

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July 06, 2015, 10:13:47 AM
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Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
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I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.

you can use web wallet http://nexthorizon.github.io/hz-source/
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July 06, 2015, 10:18:55 AM
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I know but for my purposes, I wanted the desktop or nothing.  Oh well.  I don't know why its not compiling properly.

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July 06, 2015, 10:21:26 AM
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Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

The fee of a transaction is equal to the number of nodes it is paid for.


Ok, so I just get the number of payments made.
But I would like to have the number of nodes that should be paid for.
Alternatively the height of the "remaining distribution" would be ok, which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.

1B - https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/api.php?page=distributed
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July 06, 2015, 10:22:44 AM
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Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
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I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.

Do you use a proxy to access the internet? If yes, please check the proxy configuration. localhost (127.0.0.1) must not be routed through the proxy.
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July 06, 2015, 10:38:38 AM
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Hi pharesim,

can you please add the total node count to the message? With the new distribution method the total amount of distributed HZ per day is  difficult to determine.

The fee of a transaction is equal to the number of nodes it is paid for.


Ok, so I just get the number of payments made.
But I would like to have the number of nodes that should be paid for.
Alternatively the height of the "remaining distribution" would be ok, which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.

1B - https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/api.php?page=distributed

This is not really usable:
04-07-2015; 10:00 UTC; distributed 851,251,064
05-07-2015; 14:00 UTC; distributed 861,099,671 -> Difference from prev. day: 9,848,607
06-07-2015; 07:35 UTC; distributed 863,884,156 -> Difference from prev. day: 2,784,485

The change per day is too much. Which time should I use?
The distribution changed from Saturday to Sunday at almost 10 million. Of these, about 9 million HZ !!! were no node bounties.
I need the "remaining distribution", which was the basis for the calculation of payment amount.
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July 06, 2015, 10:44:32 AM
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Thanks for the tip.  I  did that and get this:

Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 127.0.0.1:7776.

    The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments.
    If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
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I have tried on different browsers but with the same result.  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad   Oh well.  Thanks for trying.

Do you use a proxy to access the internet? If yes, please check the proxy configuration. localhost (127.0.0.1) must not be routed through the proxy.

No proxy.  Just normal connection.  So there are 2 problems here, 1. it does not compile and 2, the connection problems.  I have a dozen other Crypto wallets on my mac and never had these problems before. It must be some setting or something.  I don't know  Sigh.

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July 06, 2015, 11:40:55 AM
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...  I guess I will have to skip the world of NHZ for now.  Sad  ...

You don't need to run your own node to use HZ. There's the web wallet for transactions and forging pools you can lease your balance to.
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July 06, 2015, 11:52:43 AM
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I just feel its safer having it on my mac rather than online.  If nobody can offer a solution I might consider it but as I said, I would prefer a wallet on my mac.  Thanks for all your help.  Any other suggestions would be welcome.

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July 06, 2015, 12:10:51 PM
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I just feel its safer having it on my mac rather than online.  If nobody can offer a solution I might consider it but as I said, I would prefer a wallet on my mac.  Thanks for all your help.  Any other suggestions would be welcome.

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.

You NHZ server is working correctly. The problem is in localhost accessibility. It could be firewall if not proxy...
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July 06, 2015, 12:11:26 PM
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Just to make sure you got that right - there's no "wallet" in the traditional sense. All you need is your passphrase, you can access your account with it no matter which client/node you use.
When you use an online wallet the passphrase is not sent to the remote server, transaction signing is done in your browser.
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July 06, 2015, 12:20:34 PM
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I have a dozen other Crypto wallets on my mac and never had these problems before.
Remember you first day in crypto. To get the very first wallet running, was still a bit new, right?
After that probably all your following different cryptos were just clones of Bitcoin. All same same.

This one is a new start, a completely different approach.

I am still having problems.  I now get this:

2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Started peer networking server at 0.0.0.0:7774
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Initialization took 35 seconds
2015-07-06 10:15:01 INFO: Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully.

Is that normal?  Where is my actual wallet?   I am not technical so an idiot guide would be great.
yes, totally normal, looking good.
You now have wallet access through webpages on that local server on  127.0.0.1:7776

"Nhz server NHZ V3.9.1 started successfully." - That looks perfect.

"Started API server at 127.0.0.1:7776" - that is where this NHZ NRS is listening to your webbrowser requests.


You kept the "NHZ NRS" window open, right?!!!

The NRS is the "back end" of the system, it has to continue to run, for wallet access, or forging.

If you are sure that have no proxy settings in the way, then perhaps you have httpsanywhere in your browsers?
The browser can not go to https://127.0.0.1:7776 it has to go to http://127.0.0.1:7776


Oh well.  I don't know why its not compiling properly.
You do not actually have to compile anything.

Just start the NRS - and you have done that.
Your message above says that all is fine.

I know but for my purposes, I wanted the desktop or nothing.  

By what I understand now,
all passphrase entering happens only locally in the browser anyway,
your passphrase does not leave your browser.

So local wallet, and webwallet do not differ that much as in other technologies.

But I still understand that you feel safer with your own desktop NRS.

What about giving the webwallet a try, first with a test address, then you know better what to expect.
And then you solve your local wallet issues. How does that sound?

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July 06, 2015, 12:35:02 PM
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Wow!  Thanks for the indepth reply.  I will double check everything.  Sorry for being so dim!

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