Moolah Scam on Mintpal - Reporting Missing Coins

[statdude]

5,000.20000000 XMR.

Edited balance, please update and PM,

Also requested withdraw 10/16/2014.

[BlockaFett]

Here are some links for fighting financial crime in the UK.

http://www.fca.org.uk/about/what/protecting/financial-crime

http://www.sfo.gov.uk/

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome

http://www.rics.org/uk/regulation/regulation-uk/guidance-for-regulated-firms/reporting-information/

Can't someone living in the UK just drop them a line and say a large number of people are concerned that there may be a crime happening here and provide them with the information they need to investigate if that's the case because we are talking millions of $ at stake?  

The fact that MooPay Ltd are being so evasive about who owns what, taken the Mintpal site offline with a dubious reason given whilst simultaneously liquidating their own company, the large volume of people who had zero balances and zero response on any support for 2 weeks, shouldn't this be enough to at least investigate this before it's too late???

[Mickeyb]

Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.

Add Vircurex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!!

[The One]

Oh jolly goods news.......the weak exchanges will die and the few strong ones will survive = more security.

Too many exchanges for a small market is akin to having 30 superstores in a village.

[oshnap]

Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.

Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!!

Are there any viable decenteralized alternatives? That is what the bitcoin/altcoin space really needs! We need an exchange where trust is not an issue!

[BlockaFett]

Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.

Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!!

Are there any viable decenteralized alternatives? That is what the bitcoin/altcoin space really needs! We need an exchange where trust is not an issue!

I think an exchange where at least you didn't have to store coins on would be good, or the coins only transacted through the exchange at the time of sale like an escrow.

[ninjaskip]

Here are some links for fighting financial crime in the UK.

http://www.fca.org.uk/about/what/protecting/financial-crime

http://www.sfo.gov.uk/

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome

http://www.rics.org/uk/regulation/regulation-uk/guidance-for-regulated-firms/reporting-information/

Can't someone living in the UK just drop them a line and say a large number of people are concerned that there may be a crime happening here and provide them with the information they need to investigate if that's the case because we are talking millions of $ at stake?  

The fact that MooPay Ltd are being so evasive about who owns what, taken the Mintpal site offline with a dubious reason given whilst simultaneously liquidating their own company, the large volume of people who had zero balances and zero response on any support for 2 weeks, shouldn't this be enough to at least investigate this before it's too late???

Put it this way: Karpeles got away with stealing 500Million US ... yeah that is half a billion US Dollars!
This people, and i mean Karpelles, cryptorsh, Mintpal .. etc etc, they are all "working" together, and they know very well what they doing( and i mean stealing) there is nothing legal we can do about it, as all this is not even regulated.
We are trading bitcoins, not FIAT, and that is the key for them to get away with stealing.

I am in London, and if you give me an address i will go tomorrow and knock on their door.

[Mickeyb]

Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.

Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!!

Are there any viable decenteralized alternatives? That is what the bitcoin/altcoin space really needs! We need an exchange where trust is not an issue!

Not yet! Last I heard is that NXT is working on it's first decentralized NXT/BTC multigateway. It is already up and running but it is not yet fully decentralized. When finished and decentralized it will also support many altcoins. This is what they claim! I hope they deliver, because honestly after all these exchanges going down, you can't but wonder which one is next!!!

[The One]

Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.

Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!!

Poloniex still trading and doing well.

[oshnap]

Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.

Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!!

Are there any viable decenteralized alternatives? That is what the bitcoin/altcoin space really needs! We need an exchange where trust is not an issue!

Not yet! Last I heard is that NXT is working on it's first decentralized NXT/BTC multigateway. It is already up and running but it is not yet fully decentralized. When finished and decentralized it will also support many altcoins. This is what they claim! I hope they deliver, because honestly after all these exchanges going down, you can't but wonder which one is next!!!

I will keep an eye out for it for sure!



I think this should be a call out to all of the developers in this space. They are spending a lot of their time working on shatcoins that may or may not(probably not) succeed. However, if they were to spend those same resources on the development of a truly decentralized exchange I bet they would see more than a  modest return for their efforts.

[BlockaFett]

I'm being told that 2 of our larger holders have over 300K BlackCoin between them on MintPal

Why?  god knows, we've all seen the shit exchanges cause when they go bang.... so you would have thought people would know better right?

I feel for these guys.

However, we dont know what the outcome of all this is yet so Glass Half Full for now.

Viz

I would ask your large holders if they think it's a bit strange that the same day that Moopay Ltd Directors announce their intention to dissolve the company, they also take Mintpal offline, claiming there is a 'critical bug' and not providing any details.

And also if they feel comfortable that the day they announce dissolution they also claim for the first time that that company does not own Mintpal when up until now they said they did, and in saying this do not say who actually owns it.

Then maybe send them my links above on how to report potential financial crimes

Because once Moopay Ltd is liquidated, if they did own Mintpal, there is zero recourse, they can just say there was an inaccuracy in their blog post and puff it's gone.........

[BlockaFett]

Here are some links for fighting financial crime in the UK.

http://www.fca.org.uk/about/what/protecting/financial-crime

http://www.sfo.gov.uk/

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome

http://www.rics.org/uk/regulation/regulation-uk/guidance-for-regulated-firms/reporting-information/

Can't someone living in the UK just drop them a line and say a large number of people are concerned that there may be a crime happening here and provide them with the information they need to investigate if that's the case because we are talking millions of $ at stake?  

The fact that MooPay Ltd are being so evasive about who owns what, taken the Mintpal site offline with a dubious reason given whilst simultaneously liquidating their own company, the large volume of people who had zero balances and zero response on any support for 2 weeks, shouldn't this be enough to at least investigate this before it's too late???

Put it this way: Karpeles got away with stealing 500Million US ... yeah that is half a billion US Dollars!
This people, and i mean Karpelles, cryptorsh, Mintpal .. etc etc, they are all "working" together, and they know very well what they doing( and i mean stealing) there is nothing legal we can do about it, as all this is not even regulated.
We are trading bitcoins, not FIAT, and that is the key for them to get away with stealing.

I am in London, and if you give me an address i will go tomorrow and knock on their door.

I don't know their address but I do know it's not hard to find, e.g. you can find out any UK Director's address from Companies House, or from a company credit report.

But the UK has strict financial rules, Mintpal / Moolah are dealing with assets, and if the Directors knowingly steal these assets then I am sure there will be a recourse - they are claiming to provide a service and taking $ to provide that service and assets are transacting right?

EDIT: btw I am not condoning any illegal activity here if that's what you are implying.  What I am saying is that the address on file is just a virtual office, someone mentioned they had an actual office and I would be interested in knowing that address and potentially going there and demanding to know what is happening and also giving it to the authorities.

[Mickeyb]

Gox, Cryptorush, Mintpal, CoinEx, Coinmarket + maybe some more. Crypto is crazy, sorry for your loss.

Add Poloniex to this list as well!! Too many bloody rip offs!!

Poloniex still trading and doing well.

I am sorry, I meant to say Vircurex! My bad!

[CryptoConnection]

I am missing over 350 XMR , 30,000 Supercoin and 25,000 CINNIcoin.
I am absolutely supportive of any action taken against these thieves.

My post about this matter:
XMR miraculously unavailable for withdrawal. Price dips below .003 right after mintpal goes down for "v2" implementation... What was v2? Nothing but a cheap, $5 UI. See for yourself. http://themeforest.net/item/proui-responsive-bootstrap-admin-template/full_screen_preview/6769035 (EXAMPLE ONLY) . No answers. Cites daemon failures, etc. but no solutions. Moofarm taking over for moopay? Interesting. It does sound as though they have nothing to do with each other. This entire farce should be heavily scrutinized.

Some additional information:

companieshouse.gov.uk/

Search Moopay

Name & Registered Office:
MOOPAY LTD
1ST FLOOR
2 WOODBERRY GROVE
FINCHLEY
LONDON
ENGLAND
N12 0DR
Company No. 08920347

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 03/03/2014

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC):
None Supplied
Accounting Reference Date: 31/03
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 03/12/2015
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 31/03/2015

[DarthMuffin]

Missing approx:

.2 BTC
225 DRK

Haven't used it since mintpal 1.0.  I transferred my DRK in because I was going on vacation for 2 weeks, expected some movement on DRK and wanted to be able to sell while away.  Today I go to withdraw and site is down.

[aragoon]

I have / had 92100 SYS on M2.
Shudder to think how it feels for those who lost high value coins and amounts.
I stick with Poloniex now.
Got dangly bits out of old Cryptorush just in time.
I'm hoping VIA coin with Clearwallet/Clearinghouse will get a decentralised exchange up soon.
Good luck to everyone getting coins back from Mintpal2.

[coinlighter]

Tried to withdraw after their so called "V2" "failgration".

Some Tx haven't been broadcasted to network.
Some TX's "error-failed", but the coins haven't been refunded to the balance.

Lost
3665000 FLT
3227535 HIRO

Overall, ~7BTC at today prices  

"MintPal is currently down for a number of necessary changes and fixes. A separate method of withdrawing funds will be made available on October 16th, 2014."

Let's see what happens tomorrow.

[daveolake]

Im missing 101.99998000xc put in ticket no responce. not much but for me it was a bit of work to gather it up. I feel sorry for others with large sums on there.

[cryptohunter]

says tomorrow they will make withdrawals possible again.

However, for me i have only been able to withdraw btc for ages now, The other coins balances show up but you can not withdraw them. Just shows balance of the coins but nothing to click on anywhere.

[schutzhund]

I heard on cryptocoinsnews they are filling bankruptcy and ceasing all operations that's bad i want my ltc back.  
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/mintpal-shutdown-moopay-bankruptcy-prompts-bitcoin-foundations-brock-pierce-reach-out/