Moolah Scam on Mintpal - Reporting Missing Coins

[danosphere]

Very important news regarding our escrow funds!

https://twitter.com/selachii_llp/status/526732735575252992

@moolah_io Final Injunction granted today served by email and at your home address. Please seek immediate legal advice.

https://twitter.com/selachii_llp/status/526732995538190336

@moolah_io 2/ You have until 4pm GMT tomorrow (28th October 2014) to comply with the Order.

Deadline has been set by Royal Court.

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[RenegadeMan]

Do someone-team plan on taking legal action against Mintpal owners ?

Who run Mintpal twitter account ?

Syscoin team is taking legal action against them

A few people from the old team are trying to help with the withdrawal of the coins that never made it to the wallets at V2.

V2 Mintpal is 100% under control of Ryan/Alex.
V1 is not.

And Syscoin team is taking legal action against Ryan/Alex/Moolah, not V1 Mintpal.

Well, what proof do we have for the fact that old team is helping ?  No answers on twitter.  For me, if they have the wallets and not answering us owner, they are in the same bag then Ryan-Alex.  Why not at least answers anxious coins owners ?  I know that Faircoin team claim they are getting support, but still, what proof do we have of anything going out ?

As for legal action, I know for the SyS action, but I wonder if similar action is planned against those guys handling (as said) V1 wallets.  Do you guys have another way to contact them other then Twitter ?  

I think we have to wait a few days until Faircoin holders get their coins back to make sure V1 team is actually there to help.
If you take a look at the Faircoin thread, the devs came up with a recovery form (only for faircoin) to help V1 team with the recovery.
You can take a look here: https://chain.fair-coin.org/rt/mintpal-recovery.html

The form is to be filled until tomorrow, so i am hoping it gets sorted out, i guess that would prove that V1 staff is trying to help.

I've got to point out some naivety starting to creep in here. People are talking about the "V1 team" versus the "V2 personnel (i.e. Alex Green/Ryan Kennedy) like they're two separate entities, almost as if they have some sort of firewall between them. There's mention of V1 wallets versus post-migration V2 wallets. I think people are building mental constructs about how this is all playing out that are likely to have no bearing on the reality of the situation. To assume that there's a "V1 team" working under extraordinary pressure, trying to do the right thing and help the victims of the "V2 personnel" is to be making a whole raft of assumptions that aren't likely to be even remotely accurate.

Mintpal was sold to Moolah; whether we're talking V1 or V2, this shady character Alex Green/Ryan Kennedy appears to have control of the bulk of the coins, wallets and the payment process. Which of his employees (if any) are in there trying to serve us as Mintpal customers and get our coins back over and above what directives they still may be under via Green/Kennedy, we really have no idea.

I don't think we should be suggesting there's a "V1 team" per se. Even if the original Mintpal people (Jay, Jason?) are back in there somehow, what can they do if they  don't have access to all the stuff Green/Kennedy does?

I'm just very concerned people are getting too far ahead of themselves and there'll be even more disappointment when all these notions are shown to be a whole raft of guesses that people have started to assume are accurate.

[djnocide]

Very important news regarding our escrow funds!

https://twitter.com/selachii_llp/status/526732735575252992

@moolah_io Final Injunction granted today served by email and at your home address. Please seek immediate legal advice.

https://twitter.com/selachii_llp/status/526732995538190336

@moolah_io 2/ You have until 4pm GMT tomorrow (28th October 2014) to comply with the Order.

Deadline has been set by Royal Court.

Let's hope it have a real impact on the outcome. If legal actions truly happen, it will help to prevent future scammer to act or to do something against scammer. Let's hope it all turn well.

[ninjaskip]

Do someone-team plan on taking legal action against Mintpal owners ?

Who run Mintpal twitter account ?

Syscoin team is taking legal action against them

A few people from the old team are trying to help with the withdrawal of the coins that never made it to the wallets at V2.

V2 Mintpal is 100% under control of Ryan/Alex.
V1 is not.

And Syscoin team is taking legal action against Ryan/Alex/Moolah, not V1 Mintpal.

Well, what proof do we have for the fact that old team is helping ?  No answers on twitter.  For me, if they have the wallets and not answering us owner, they are in the same bag then Ryan-Alex.  Why not at least answers anxious coins owners ?  I know that Faircoin team claim they are getting support, but still, what proof do we have of anything going out ?

As for legal action, I know for the SyS action, but I wonder if similar action is planned against those guys handling (as said) V1 wallets.  Do you guys have another way to contact them other then Twitter ?  

I think we have to wait a few days until Faircoin holders get their coins back to make sure V1 team is actually there to help.
If you take a look at the Faircoin thread, the devs came up with a recovery form (only for faircoin) to help V1 team with the recovery.
You can take a look here: https://chain.fair-coin.org/rt/mintpal-recovery.html

The form is to be filled until tomorrow, so i am hoping it gets sorted out, i guess that would prove that V1 staff is trying to help.

I've got to point out some naivety starting to creep in here. People are talking about the "V1 team" versus the "V2 personnel (i.e. Alex Green/Ryan Kennedy) like they're two separate entities, almost as if they have some sort of firewall between them. There's mention of V1 wallets versus post-migration V2 wallets. I think people are building mental constructs about how this is all playing out that are likely to have no bearing on the reality of the situation. To assume that there's a "V1 team" working under extraordinary pressure, trying to do the right thing and help the victims of the "V2 personnel" is to be making a whole raft of assumptions that aren't likely to be even remotely accurate.

Mintpal was sold to Moolah; whether we're talking V1 or V2, this shady character Alex Green/Ryan Kennedy appears to have control of the bulk of the coins, wallets and the payment process. Which of his employees (if any) are in there trying to serve us as Mintpal customers and get our coins back over and above what directives they still may be under via Green/Kennedy, we really have no idea.

I don't think we should be suggesting there's a "V1 team" per se. Even if the original Mintpal people (Jay, Jason?) are back in there somehow, what can they do if they  don't have access to all the stuff Green/Kennedy does?

I'm just very concerned people are getting too far ahead of themselves and there'll be even more disappointment when all these notions are shown to be a whole raft of guesses that people have started to assume are accurate.

I kind of agree with you about the v1/v2 team, that they actually might be the same bullshit.
But the V1 said they will work on refunding the faircoins in the next few days, so let's wait and see where we are.

[bytemycoin]

Mintpal owes me 19.99381322 BTC. and the community much more.

Those responsible will soon understand why they should return funds ASAP.

I have named Ryan Kennedy (Alex Green), Miss Chelsea Hopkins and Landon Merrill as co-conspirators in an international fraud scheme.  As you can see via the attachment  I am in contact with ActionFraud.  I am also in contact with the New York an US Authorities mounting an international fraud ring charge.  It is one thing for a civil action when misappropriating monies from a company however it is criminal to take consumer funds.  I have been awaiting the return of my BTCs and given ample time. I am moving on a case of an international conspiracy ring to defraud consumers.  This will block the use of their passports and forced them to be detained in international airports restricting their movement.   Each one of their family members will be interrogated by international authorities. 

I am a long time member of the Bitcoin community.  I have supported the community as a whole and will continue to do so.  Some of you will recall that I was able to change Federal stance on bitcoin in Jan with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen) ruling I fought for at the federal level. Called: "Application of FinCEN’s Regulations to Virtual Currency Software Development and Certain Investment Activity" Now my fight will be to get the monies Ryan et al. refuses to return through international effort.  My goal is that the fraud charges I am mounting will position this for some lifetime sentences for all parties.



This is my move Ryan, lets see yours!

https://i.imgur.com/LwtnpTO.png


I am easily reachable

@AndreTechExec - twitter.

-Andre

[smartaction]

Do someone-team plan on taking legal action against Mintpal owners ?

Who run Mintpal twitter account ?

Syscoin team is taking legal action against them

A few people from the old team are trying to help with the withdrawal of the coins that never made it to the wallets at V2.

V2 Mintpal is 100% under control of Ryan/Alex.
V1 is not.

And Syscoin team is taking legal action against Ryan/Alex/Moolah, not V1 Mintpal.

Well, what proof do we have for the fact that old team is helping ?  No answers on twitter.  For me, if they have the wallets and not answering us owner, they are in the same bag then Ryan-Alex.  Why not at least answers anxious coins owners ?  I know that Faircoin team claim they are getting support, but still, what proof do we have of anything going out ?

As for legal action, I know for the SyS action, but I wonder if similar action is planned against those guys handling (as said) V1 wallets.  Do you guys have another way to contact them other then Twitter ?  

I think we have to wait a few days until Faircoin holders get their coins back to make sure V1 team is actually there to help.
If you take a look at the Faircoin thread, the devs came up with a recovery form (only for faircoin) to help V1 team with the recovery.
You can take a look here: https://chain.fair-coin.org/rt/mintpal-recovery.html

The form is to be filled until tomorrow, so i am hoping it gets sorted out, i guess that would prove that V1 staff is trying to help.

I've got to point out some naivety starting to creep in here. People are talking about the "V1 team" versus the "V2 personnel (i.e. Alex Green/Ryan Kennedy) like they're two separate entities, almost as if they have some sort of firewall between them. There's mention of V1 wallets versus post-migration V2 wallets. I think people are building mental constructs about how this is all playing out that are likely to have no bearing on the reality of the situation. To assume that there's a "V1 team" working under extraordinary pressure, trying to do the right thing and help the victims of the "V2 personnel" is to be making a whole raft of assumptions that aren't likely to be even remotely accurate.

Mintpal was sold to Moolah; whether we're talking V1 or V2, this shady character Alex Green/Ryan Kennedy appears to have control of the bulk of the coins, wallets and the payment process. Which of his employees (if any) are in there trying to serve us as Mintpal customers and get our coins back over and above what directives they still may be under via Green/Kennedy, we really have no idea.

I don't think we should be suggesting there's a "V1 team" per se. Even if the original Mintpal people (Jay, Jason?) are back in there somehow, what can they do if they  don't have access to all the stuff Green/Kennedy does?

I'm just very concerned people are getting too far ahead of themselves and there'll be even more disappointment when all these notions are shown to be a whole raft of guesses that people have started to assume are accurate.

I kind of agree with you about the v1/v2 team, that they actually might be the same bullshit.
But the V1 said they will work on refunding the faircoins in the next few days, so let's wait and see where we are.

I got contact with mintpal v1/v2 owners from recognized members of dogecoin community. And they have explained me that they got acces to mintpal v1 info and the wallets that was yet there or failed migration; and are working at legal level to get access to mintpal v2, and are having some progress in this way. Otherwise, they said, that are very busy at the lawyers level.  

Anyway After Faircoin form get filled tomorrow, i will negotiate with them the withdrawal of faircoin and this could be a proof of they good purpose.

[MrTheBoffin]

Mintpal owes me 19.99381322 BTC. and the community much more.

Those responsible will soon understand why they should return funds ASAP.

I have named Ryan Kennedy (Alex Green), Miss Chelsea Hopkins and Landon Merrill as co-conspirators in an international fraud scheme.  As you can see via the attachment  I am in contact with ActionFraud.  I am also in contact with the New York an US Authorities mounting an international fraud ring charge.  It is one thing for a civil action when misappropriating monies from a company however it is criminal to take consumer funds.  I have been awaiting the return of my BTCs and given ample time. I am moving on a case of an international conspiracy ring to defraud consumers.  This will block the use of their passports and forced them to be detained in international airports restricting their movement.   Each one of their family members will be interrogated by international authorities. 

I am a long time member of the Bitcoin community.  I have supported the community as a whole and will continue to do so.  Some of you will recall that I was able to change Federal stance on bitcoin in Jan with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen) ruling I fought for at the federal level. Called: "Application of FinCEN’s Regulations to Virtual Currency Software Development and Certain Investment Activity" Now my fight will be to get the monies Ryan et al. refuses to return through international effort.  My goal is that the fraud charges I am mounting will position this for some lifetime sentences for all parties.



This is my move Ryan, lets see yours!

https://i.imgur.com/LwtnpTO.png


I am easily reachable

@AndreTechExec - twitter.

-Andre

I am terribly sorry to hear your story, but I'm afraid that Moolah only managed Mintpal, and I was never an owner of Mintpal.  I would also note that I have been fired from Moolah, as well as I am owed funds from Ryan.  If I can be of any help, please feel free to get a hold of me.

-Landon

[danosphere]

Royal Court has ordered Moolah / Ryan to return Syscoin's 750BTC by 4pm GMT 10/28 or face legal consequences - http://www.coindesk.com/uk-court-syscoin-injunction-moolah-750-btc/

[MrTheBoffin]

Royal Court has ordered Moolah / Ryan to return Syscoin's 750BTC by 4pm GMT 10/28 or face legal consequences - http://www.coindesk.com/uk-court-syscoin-injunction-moolah-750-btc/

Glad to hear it!  I hope that you get them back

[trueberry]

Royal Court has ordered Moolah / Ryan to return Syscoin's 750BTC by 4pm GMT 10/28 or face legal consequences - http://www.coindesk.com/uk-court-syscoin-injunction-moolah-750-btc/

What about the other coins? Individual lawsuits for each person costing $10000 each?

[tombtc]

Royal Court has ordered Moolah / Ryan to return Syscoin's 750BTC by 4pm GMT 10/28 or face legal consequences - http://www.coindesk.com/uk-court-syscoin-injunction-moolah-750-btc/

What about the other coins? Individual lawsuits for each person costing $10000 each?

Have you filled actionfraud.police.uk?

[bytemycoin]

Mintpal owes me 19.99381322 BTC. and the community much more.

Those responsible will soon understand why they should return funds ASAP.

I have named Ryan Kennedy (Alex Green), Miss Chelsea Hopkins and Landon Merrill as co-conspirators in an international fraud scheme.  As you can see via the attachment  I am in contact with ActionFraud.  I am also in contact with the New York an US Authorities mounting an international fraud ring charge.  It is one thing for a civil action when misappropriating monies from a company however it is criminal to take consumer funds.  I have been awaiting the return of my BTCs and given ample time. I am moving on a case of an international conspiracy ring to defraud consumers.  This will block the use of their passports and forced them to be detained in international airports restricting their movement.   Each one of their family members will be interrogated by international authorities. 

I am a long time member of the Bitcoin community.  I have supported the community as a whole and will continue to do so.  Some of you will recall that I was able to change Federal stance on bitcoin in Jan with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen) ruling I fought for at the federal level. Called: "Application of FinCEN’s Regulations to Virtual Currency Software Development and Certain Investment Activity" Now my fight will be to get the monies Ryan et al. refuses to return through international effort.  My goal is that the fraud charges I am mounting will position this for some lifetime sentences for all parties.



This is my move Ryan, lets see yours!

https://i.imgur.com/LwtnpTO.png


I am easily reachable

@AndreTechExec - twitter.

-Andre

I am terribly sorry to hear your story, but I'm afraid that Moolah only managed Mintpal, and I was never an owner of Mintpal.  I would also note that I have been fired from Moolah, as well as I am owed funds from Ryan.  If I can be of any help, please feel free to get a hold of me.

-Landon

Landon, I should have really mentioned all the of the employees in my original post. I am not here to accuse you or anyone else however I spent the Morning with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and they were interested in the names of every employee.  Actually they were interested in every person and every party and even every name of every affected victim I could provide.  If you feel strongly that you are in the right (I don't disagree), my best recommendation is: if you are not part of the crime protect yourself and be part of the solution. 

Go to your local authorities and file a report that you have been witnesses to an international crime as I did.  Explain and divulge everything you can, timelines etc. so you have a report to show the authorities that you did everything in your power to expose the problem.  That you were not part of the conspiracy and criminal acts.

Please recommend the same to everyone that you believe is in the same position.  I can guarantee you that I am not discriminating. I am being guided to following proper procedure. I suggest you do the same. i don't hide and if you look me up you will see that I try my best to be affective with law enforcement.

This will be interpreted as an international conspiracy because it involves many people and obfuscation of companies to hide the perpetrators.  I would even recommend the same to the guys from Mintpal.  I cannot say for sure they did not have Mal intentions. From the little I know it seems as if they had no mal intentions but that is not for me to decide.

I am just using my influence to seek some justice.

Keep in mind that aiding a criminal act puts anyone in the same hot seat sometimes even without knowing that you are aiding.  Be part of the solution and don't get caught with your pants down. I am not about to stop the momentum I have started. 

Not against you or anyone else. I believe all victims should get their BTCs back.

Best of luck and if you need to reach me I am easy to reach.

Sincerely,

Andre

[stagehand099]

Mintpal owes me 19.99381322 BTC. and the community much more.

Those responsible will soon understand why they should return funds ASAP.

I have named Ryan Kennedy (Alex Green), Miss Chelsea Hopkins and Landon Merrill as co-conspirators in an international fraud scheme.  As you can see via the attachment  I am in contact with ActionFraud.  I am also in contact with the New York an US Authorities mounting an international fraud ring charge.  It is one thing for a civil action when misappropriating monies from a company however it is criminal to take consumer funds.  I have been awaiting the return of my BTCs and given ample time. I am moving on a case of an international conspiracy ring to defraud consumers.  This will block the use of their passports and forced them to be detained in international airports restricting their movement.   Each one of their family members will be interrogated by international authorities. 

I am a long time member of the Bitcoin community.  I have supported the community as a whole and will continue to do so.  Some of you will recall that I was able to change Federal stance on bitcoin in Jan with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen) ruling I fought for at the federal level. Called: "Application of FinCEN’s Regulations to Virtual Currency Software Development and Certain Investment Activity" Now my fight will be to get the monies Ryan et al. refuses to return through international effort.  My goal is that the fraud charges I am mounting will position this for some lifetime sentences for all parties.



This is my move Ryan, lets see yours!

https://i.imgur.com/LwtnpTO.png


I am easily reachable

@AndreTechExec - twitter.

-Andre

I am terribly sorry to hear your story, but I'm afraid that Moolah only managed Mintpal, and I was never an owner of Mintpal.  I would also note that I have been fired from Moolah, as well as I am owed funds from Ryan.  If I can be of any help, please feel free to get a hold of me.

-Landon

See I warned you Landon.....you will surely be served some rude papers in the coming days.....Time to spend a few dozens of your stolen BTC on some very good legal counsel....they're coming for you, you fat waste of air.

[count_cyrpto]

Can someone point me in the right direction to file a complaint when based out of the US?

[SnjafSnjaf]

Can someone point me in the right direction to file a complaint when based out of the US?

And out of UK, how do we file a complaint internationally?

[Nomercy82]

~Snip~

Hi Andre

I am a previous employee of the company. I have been in touch with several solicitors and various agencies on this. I am not involved with this ordeal in any way and they are happy with that.

Below is also my crime report response from Action Fraud:

https://i.imgur.com/HVvMqW8.jpg

I can assure you, there are several other 'ex employees' in similar situations to me, and while I cannot conclusively say 100%; to my knowledge, none of those fired on the same day as myself had any involvement.

I can't really state right now what the situation is with the case, but I can promise you that there has been some progress made.

I hope that with help from those of us here in the UK, we can find out what really happened in this whole situation.

As my email is above, feel free to get in touch if you have any other evidence, as depending on how proceedings go, I may be required to visit the Serious Fraud Office at some point in the coming weeks.

Thanks

Seb

Can someone point me in the right direction to file a complaint when based out of the US?

And out of UK, how do we file a complaint internationally?

I think all complaints directed at people within the UK should go to http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/

[nhrf3]

Mintpal owes me 19.99381322 BTC. and the community much more.

Those responsible will soon understand why they should return funds ASAP.

I have named Ryan Kennedy (Alex Green), Miss Chelsea Hopkins and Landon Merrill as co-conspirators in an international fraud scheme.  As you can see via the attachment  I am in contact with ActionFraud.  I am also in contact with the New York an US Authorities mounting an international fraud ring charge.  It is one thing for a civil action when misappropriating monies from a company however it is criminal to take consumer funds.  I have been awaiting the return of my BTCs and given ample time. I am moving on a case of an international conspiracy ring to defraud consumers.  This will block the use of their passports and forced them to be detained in international airports restricting their movement.   Each one of their family members will be interrogated by international authorities. 

I am a long time member of the Bitcoin community.  I have supported the community as a whole and will continue to do so.  Some of you will recall that I was able to change Federal stance on bitcoin in Jan with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen) ruling I fought for at the federal level. Called: "Application of FinCEN’s Regulations to Virtual Currency Software Development and Certain Investment Activity" Now my fight will be to get the monies Ryan et al. refuses to return through international effort.  My goal is that the fraud charges I am mounting will position this for some lifetime sentences for all parties.



This is my move Ryan, lets see yours!




I am easily reachable

@AndreTechExec - twitter.

-Andre

I am terribly sorry to hear your story, but I'm afraid that Moolah only managed Mintpal, and I was never an owner of Mintpal.  I would also note that I have been fired from Moolah, as well as I am owed funds from Ryan.  If I can be of any help, please feel free to get a hold of me.

-Landon

Butthole puckered a little huh

Better be part of the solution or else, my friend. Not a good look Landon

[trueberry]

Royal Court has ordered Moolah / Ryan to return Syscoin's 750BTC by 4pm GMT 10/28 or face legal consequences - http://www.coindesk.com/uk-court-syscoin-injunction-moolah-750-btc/

What about the other coins? Individual lawsuits for each person costing $10000 each?

Have you filled actionfraud.police.uk?

I have now. But Ferdous Ahmed / Torihiki LTD has my XMR, so it's very complex.

[bytemycoin]

Can someone point me in the right direction to file a complaint when based out of the US?

If you are in the US contact your local FBI office. Also file with your local police department. you can also file at www.ic3.gov (FBI internet crimes division) and even if you are in the US, Like I am, you can file at Action fraud in the UK like I did. It takes like an hour to fill everything out.  FBI can contact interpol to grab them where they are.

- I have two other agencies to contact I will keep everyone informed

- Goal is to get charges that leads to lifetime prison sentences and not white collar bullshit.  Since this is international it should be easy out of the US plus they too consumer funds and that is much worse than spending money from some partnership agreement.

Andre

[count_cyrpto]

Can someone point me in the right direction to file a complaint when based out of the US?

If you are in the US contact your local FBI office. Also file with your local police department. you can also file at www.ic3.gov (FBI internet crimes division) and even if you are in the US, Like I am, you can file at Action fraud in the UK like I did. It takes like an hour to fill everything out.  FBI can contact interpol to grab them where they are.

- I have two other agencies to contact I will keep everyone informed

- Goal is to get charges that leads to lifetime prison sentences and not white collar bullshit.  Since this is international it should be easy out of the US plus they too consumer funds and that is much worse than spending money from some partnership agreement.

Andre

Appreciate the help and I will be more than happy to take one hour out of my life to fill the necessary paperwork to get this done.