CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[bensam1231]

Yeah, anyday you want to release this miner that'll be good.

Curious though, I've asked for improvements to Cryptonote over the last couple years. Years ago when it was addressed I was told that there is no room for improvement because Cryptonote is so memory intensive.

well memory amount & bandwith available on gpu's sure skyrocked quite a bit since the last few years

This was about a year ago. Bandwidth hasn't increased much between 970s and 1070s.

Ahhh you said Years so i supposed it was 2+ years back Also well 970 against 1070, 1070 got 10% more mem bandwith, 50% more mem clock and 50% more memory (8gb against 4gb), this is quite big and also 20% more cuda cores aside from a few others things. Im eager to see what nvidia mining in 6 months will look, with all the optimisation coming, seems to get some traction well at least till the VEGA, that one seems very strong on paper

Closer to a year and a half. The Maxwell series released in 2014 as well, so still within the 2-3 year timeframe.

You can also run the available Cryptonote miner, it doesn't max out the MCU, so no, it wasn't completely memory bound.

Memory size doesn't matter with most cryptos, only thing that changes with that is straps/latency, which is why some people buy 480s with 8g.

Cuda cores has nothing to do with what we were talking about. That's like comparing GPU processing power for Ethereum.

Hey look you're actually completely wrong on almost every account and don't know what you're talking about.

Do you also like condescending smileys?

The original post I made wasn't for a eth-baby like you, it was for devs who talk about algos and haven't taken time to look at them deeply enough and spit out a generic answer.

monero also wans't that strong back in the day in value, there was no real incentive to make a better miners, it was all about bot-fest...

Absolute bullshit. Monero and cryptonote coins in general have always been really strong, the price wasn't as high, but the hashrate wasn't either. Look at the volume.

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/

http://chainradar.com/xmr/chart

Enter 500 hash into Whattomine and look at what it gives you.

[Amph]

i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today

so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time

[bensam1231]

i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today

so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time

And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts.

Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then.

[Amph]

i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today

so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time

And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts.

Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then.

how can you compare now with what it was back then whattomine can't do anything, there were another better coins before, if you are talking about 2015

if you said "years" before and not "year" i can even assume 2014 which is even worse for monero, jackpotcoin alone put it to shame on profit

[m1n1ngP4d4w4n]

Hey look you're actually completely wrong on almost every account and don't know what you're talking about.

Do you also like condescending smileys?

Why are you always this condescending mr bullshit-pro ?, i understand why people hate you, you're a jerk and a prick, and you have nothing to do on any forum with this tone, and you don't know what you are talking about either... go read up some gpu papers, or find a better hobby than harrass people that don't find grace in your eyes (you were bullied in your childhood to have this much hate or what ?) in the meantime go to my ignore list and the hell with you...

[antantti]

750ti has been doing 300h/s and 970 500h/s on xmr since 2014. There have been some small tweaks to miner in 2016 but biggest boost was actually p0 state.

Has it been profitable or not? Most of the time there was something else to mine, during 2015 sak boom a rig that could mine 2 xmr/ day made 12 xmr/ day when selling quark and buying xmr with that.

What happened in mining profitability is that everything else came down to xmr levels. I don't have my rig fleet anymore, what is left can do ~7K on xmr which is what they have been doing since early October. I don't care about daily profitability, I am holding every xmr I mine.

They are really good space heaters btw, right now it is -16C out there ))

[bensam1231]

i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today

so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time

And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts.

Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then.

how can you compare now with what it was back then whattomine can't do anything, there were another better coins before, if you are talking about 2015

if you said "years" before and not "year" i can even assume 2014 which is even worse for monero, jackpotcoin alone put it to shame on profit

Wow dude, you can't even keep your responses organized and confuse yourself when talking. If you type in 500 hash into Whattomine TODAY, look at how much you earn, less then $1. That's for a 1070. Now we take things back another notch, a 970 has less then 500 hash rate, closer to 400 (you can search this thread for some of SPs responses to people asking about his custom Cryptonote miner). When you start factoring in power that gets very close to 0.

There were better coins to mine because the miners sucked dick. Cryptonote has always been a really strong algorithm, which is why I always asked for improvements towards it.

Now lets separate that, lets talk about Price vs Difficulty. There has always been a lot of volume on Cryptonote. You argued that price has increased a lot recently, which is why it's now profitable. That is incorrect. Difficulty has also increased quite a bit to match the increase in price. Look at the two charts I posted, that's not hard. Even if you don't listen to me and actively confuse yourself, you should at very least be able to look at two links which show the rise in price (volume has always been very healthy) and rise in difficulty.

Hey look you're actually completely wrong on almost every account and don't know what you're talking about.

Do you also like condescending smileys?

Why are you always this condescending mr bullshit-pro ?, i understand why people hate you, you're a jerk and a prick, and you have nothing to do on any forum with this tone, and you don't know what you are talking about either... go read up some gpu papers, or find a better hobby than harrass people that don't find grace in your eyes (you were bullied in your childhood to have this much hate or what ?) in the meantime go to my ignore list and the hell with you...

I don't know, maybe it has to do with the fact that you're using condescending smileys. You know in order to get the point across you have to make sure you look down on the other person.

I think I got that point across without the smileys simply with the eth-baby comment. Don't comment on something unless you know what the fuck you're talking about.

You don't even address my points you just go 'go read a GPU paper' because that's going to make a algo that isn't being strangled by the MCU become strangled by it.

And nope, my childhood was lovely. Unfortunately this is my workplace and I have to deal with retards like yourself cluttering it up with uninformed stupid shit which we then have to deal with so this doesn't turn into the Ethereum or Zcash forums.

[Amph]

there were better things to mine in 2014, in 2015 i don't know i was not mining no real profit early 2015 with my power

monero was obscured by better alternative, unless back then it was possibile to reach crazy hash with a 970 like 1000 hash, not sure about the potential of this algo

or simply private miner for it well all over the place, like with byteball the cryptonote coin which monero copyed

[antantti]

970 mining xmr, open source miner, no secret trics, ~100W:

[Amph]

970 mining xmr, open source miner, no secret trics, ~100W:

yeah but i remember that when the price was at 200k staoshi it was far above pointless to mine it, in the sense that even a 2x boost in price/hash would not have done anything

[Epsylon3]

some day miners will understand the 4 dimensions ... but that require a brain and patience

i see you understand, antantti :p

[djm34]

i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today

so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time

And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts.

Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then.

how can you compare now with what it was back then whattomine can't do anything, there were another better coins before, if you are talking about 2015

if you said "years" before and not "year" i can even assume 2014 which is even worse for monero, jackpotcoin alone put it to shame on profit

Wow dude, you can't even keep your responses organized and confuse yourself when talking.

wow    coming from you who makes totally unreadable posts, that must be a compliment.

btw: are you planning a Troll Anniversary of some sort soon ? 3 years of insane trolling, you should celebrate

bensam: making bitcointalk trolled again (and again, and again ....)

[antantti]

that require a brain and patience

In my case brains (don't have), some patience and luck. It also helps if you get beaten too many times by the markets haha!

I too had a time where I invested so much that I only cared about €/ day, that period ended when eth crossed 4.6€ mark. Now I am free of that stress and just happy I have a free ringside seat to yet another revolution western world is going to see. If I am lucky I might earn a dime every now and then too.
 

[Epsylon3]

The times are harder this year... since lbry launch in fact, at least the BTC rised.. something positive :p

but im a bit angry/disappointed by the community in general

[antantti]

Yep, as this is sp_'s thread, and I happen to know he likes youtube...

This is how I see current mining 'community'. Race to... where? Happy mining!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOOs8MaR1YM

[pallas]

The times are harder this year... since lbry launch in fact, at least the BTC rised.. something positive :p

but im a bit angry/disappointed by the community in general

I agree... And by the greedy market manipulators.

[Nikolaj]

i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today

so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time

And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts.

Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then.

how can you compare now with what it was back then whattomine can't do anything, there were another better coins before, if you are talking about 2015

if you said "years" before and not "year" i can even assume 2014 which is even worse for monero, jackpotcoin alone put it to shame on profit

Wow dude, you can't even keep your responses organized and confuse yourself when talking.

wow    coming from you who makes totally unreadable posts, that must be a compliment.

btw: are you planning a Troll Anniversary of some sort soon ? 3 years of insane trolling, you should celebrate

bensam: making bitcointalk trolled again (and again, and again ....)

Haha.. I call them the regurgitating brothers, they won't be any different in the future

[bensam1231]

there were better things to mine in 2014, in 2015 i don't know i was not mining no real profit early 2015 with my power

monero was obscured by better alternative, unless back then it was possibile to reach crazy hash with a 970 like 1000 hash, not sure about the potential of this algo

or simply private miner for it well all over the place, like with byteball the cryptonote coin which monero copyed

Or we can look at the simpler solution here which is the miners have always sucked for Cryptonote and they needed to be improved but no one took a look at them for the last two years or so.

some day miners will understand the 4 dimensions ... but that require a brain and patience

i see you understand, antantti :p

Derp... My mission continues.

i was talking about the price obviously, not the coin itself, back it was dumped to the ground as low as 200k satoshi, not comparable with today

so dev weren't incentivated to do a better miner, not to mention there were far better option to mine at that time

And I mentioned that the difficulty has increased to match the price in addition to talking about the price. You know difficulty is correlative to how much you make, right? Literally right there... Even included links to charts.

Far better option then what? As I said put 500hash into whattomine and look at profits for a 1070. 970s had even less hashrate back then.

how can you compare now with what it was back then whattomine can't do anything, there were another better coins before, if you are talking about 2015

if you said "years" before and not "year" i can even assume 2014 which is even worse for monero, jackpotcoin alone put it to shame on profit

Wow dude, you can't even keep your responses organized and confuse yourself when talking.

wow    coming from you who makes totally unreadable posts, that must be a compliment.

btw: are you planning a Troll Anniversary of some sort soon ? 3 years of insane trolling, you should celebrate

bensam: making bitcointalk trolled again (and again, and again ....)

Coming from a self-proclaimed troll who has mentioned he should 'get paid for trolling SPs thread', not sure what to make of that.

The times are harder this year... since lbry launch in fact, at least the BTC rised.. something positive :p

but im a bit angry/disappointed by the community in general

Yup, with the uprising of Ethereum GPU mining has grown more centralized. Although profits in general have seemed to be on a down hill slope, it seems like profits are becoming overall more stable. IE less likely for things to become completely unprofitable as they sometimes used to.

Sadly the attention Ethereum has garnered hasn't been good. There is more and more large scale deployments happening and I suspect revenue per 1070 will eventually be pushed south of $1.

[Epsylon3]

yes, its what i meant. That and the multiplication of closed source projects which take and rarely share

[bensam1231]

Makes me wonder if someone is trying to replicate the BTC crash of '13-14.