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June 14, 2017, 09:04:46 AM |
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Zen up... Holy shit finally making remotely decent profits with mainstream cards. Still, comparatively speaking, a 1070 should be earning a $18 a day.
now with zencash about 9$
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June 14, 2017, 09:22:30 AM |
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Zen up... Holy shit finally making remotely decent profits with mainstream cards. Still, comparatively speaking, a 1070 should be earning a $18 a day.
amd was lucky that ETH is still increasing so much, still i would choose nvidia because of better option, when ETH will go pos or diff boom there will be no more profit for amd
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June 14, 2017, 09:57:33 AM |
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with Zen you are making NOTHING... since wallet at trex is offline. Speaking of daily profits when you cant trade the coin is nonsense.
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June 14, 2017, 10:19:16 AM |
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Of course. And 1080 should do more, at least 35. And 1080 Ti should do 50+. If you check 1080 Ti, you can see it reaches 35, but memload is only 75% and you cannot change that no matter OC. There is something seriously NOT adjusted for GDDR5X.
It is all about latency and I'm very doubt that you can mask it in software when we talk about dagger-hashimoto. Polaris cards with stock bios are also showin < 100% mem load and poor performance until better timings resulting lower latency are applied. It is not software - but hardware feature. Big latency can be properly hidden with correct programming approach. The current one used by Genoil's CUDA kernel is obviously not the correct one. At the end, big mem bandwidth is more important when proper coding is applied. constant switching and miners that need 2 minutes to run at full speed Sentences like that really makes you look dumb, sp. Hashing is not like accelerating a car. When hashing starts, it is at full speed from moment one, but some speed measuring mechanisms have a buffer and so it looks as if speed is accelerating.
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June 14, 2017, 10:22:45 AM |
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Sentences like that really makes you look dumb, sp. Hashing is not like accelerating a car. When hashing starts, it is at full speed from moment one, but some speed measuring mechanisms have a buffer and so it looks as if speed is accelerating.
Try to run the alexis's miner on a 2 core celeron. It sometimes take 2 minutes to start all the 6 gpu threads. If you combine this buggy miner with a profit switcher software that switch between coins every 5 minutes you end up earning very little. The first 30 seconds is never mining with 6 gpu's. (Nemos miner)
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June 14, 2017, 10:46:18 AM |
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Sentences like that really makes you look dumb, sp. Hashing is not like accelerating a car. When hashing starts, it is at full speed from moment one, but some speed measuring mechanisms have a buffer and so it looks as if speed is accelerating.
Try to run the alexis's miner on a 2 core celeron. It sometimes take 2 minutes to start all the 6 gpu threads. If you combine this buggy miner with a profit switcher software that switch between coins every 5 minutes you end up earning very little. The first 30 seconds is never mining with 6 gpu's. (Nemos miner) Imagine what happens if you add a cheap bad internet connection too... I dont get why you're so mean to my miner though... You want me to push any fixes and then have you around calling it "shitty gpl code" while selling my fork in the same time?
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June 14, 2017, 10:58:58 AM |
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Sentences like that really makes you look dumb, sp. Hashing is not like accelerating a car. When hashing starts, it is at full speed from moment one, but some speed measuring mechanisms have a buffer and so it looks as if speed is accelerating.
Try to run the alexis's miner on a 2 core celeron. It sometimes take 2 minutes to start all the 6 gpu threads. If you combine this buggy miner with a profit switcher software that switch between coins every 5 minutes you end up earning very little. The first 30 seconds is never mining with 6 gpu's. (Nemos miner) Well, Excavator does NOT have this issue at all and can switch from one algorithm to another instantly. And guess why? Because the most of the time spent when launching a miner is cuda context initialization. And if that is done only once, at start of mining, then there are no mining looses during switches. And from next NHM version, there are only two popular algorithms that aren't coevered by Excavator (dagger and lyra2rev2), but we are getting to that part soon. Maybe, sp, you should invest your time into creating better code base instead of reusing old crappy ccminer?
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June 14, 2017, 11:37:20 AM |
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I dont get why you're so mean to my miner though... You want me to push any fixes and then have you around calling it "shitty gpl code" while selling my fork in the same time? You fork others work and include new bugs in the code that makes the miner unstable and unusable. It's been 8 months since your last commit to github, and still you waste time in my thread and complain. My fork doesn't have this bug.
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June 14, 2017, 11:38:19 AM |
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Maybe, sp, you should invest your time into creating better code base instead of reusing old crappy ccminer? Why don't you opensource the Excavator?
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June 14, 2017, 11:42:31 AM |
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There is no bug with alexis78 miner. You can start all 7 gpus at the start with a simple command. Had no issue on all of my nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus).
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June 14, 2017, 11:43:33 AM |
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Maybe, sp, you should invest your time into creating better code base instead of reusing old crappy ccminer? Why don't you opensource the Excavator? Why would we? So you can copy paste it and resell? ^^
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June 14, 2017, 11:55:28 AM Last edit: June 14, 2017, 12:06:48 PM by sp_ |
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There is no bug with alexis78 miner. You can start all 7 gpus at the start with a simple command. Had no issue on all of my nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus).
Here is a snapshot of the alexisminer bug: 13:45:12 start the miner (6 card celeron rig) 4 gpu thread's is starting (3 seconds delay) and produce almost nothing, and the pool is reducing the difficulty to get a response. 13:48:31 The 5th gpu thread is starting. (2.5 minutes later) The 6th gpu thread was enabled after 5 minutes of mining.
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June 14, 2017, 12:12:27 PM |
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I've never seen that alexis bug, probably it's windows only. Blame Microsoft.
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June 14, 2017, 12:13:24 PM |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues. I told many times who buys cheap buys twice or should shut up about performance issues obviously caused my morons thinking to save money and complain afterwards about bad performance.
I have no problems with alexis miner..it's stable and faster than anything else
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June 14, 2017, 12:15:26 PM |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues. I told many times who buys cheap buys twice or should shut up about performance issues obviously caused my morons thinking to save money and complain afterwards about bad performance.
I have no problems with alexis miner..it's stable and faster than anything else
@Pallas: its because he thought a cheap celeron is super duper deal for miner with 6-7gpus. lol I never had any issue like many others with alexis miner and no not blame microsoft but blame guys that try to blame others for their faults and mistakes. (e.g putting a crappy cpu into a 6+ gpu mining rig) lol
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June 14, 2017, 12:16:10 PM |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues.
This is working in all the other forks. Most rig owners use cheap celeron cpu's. You rather want to buy another GPU than waste the money on ram, hd and cpu.
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June 14, 2017, 12:25:09 PM Last edit: June 14, 2017, 01:19:43 PM by ioglnx |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues.
This is working in all the other forks. Most rig owners use cheap celeron cpu's. You rather want to buy another GPU than waste the money on ram, hd and cpu. Instead you are complaining about your weak cpu has issues then? Well I don't think a good Xeon or i7 is a waste of money...sofar all those issues even if it is about OpenCL miner eting all cpu on nvidia or like your complain about alexis i couldn't observe with a good Xeon/i7 while I saw those issues on crappy celeron ..even a Qualcomm 835 has more performance than those Celeron crappies.
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June 14, 2017, 12:44:39 PM |
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Instead you are complain about your weak cpu has issues then? Well I don't think a good Xeon or i7 is a waste of money...sofar all those issues even if it is about OpenCL miner eting all cpu on nvidia or like your complain about alexis i couldn't observe with a good Xeon/i7 while I saw those issues on crappy celeron ..even a Qualcomm 835 has more performance than those Celeron crappies.
I have more than 100 rigs and they all have cheap celeron cpu's. I don't waste money on an I7. Bether to spend the money on 100 more gpu's. The name of the program is "GPU miner", if I wanted to mine with the CPU I would use a "CPU miner".
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June 14, 2017, 12:52:06 PM |
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Yeah, I've also had the same issue with alexis miner. Didn't know it's the miner and at first thought there was something wrong with my rig. 8* gtx 1060 and skylake celeron with 4gb ram. Other miners work fine. Kinda worked around it by starting 4 miner instances with 2 gpu per instance. I don't think that issue affected the total hashrate though, just an inconvenience.
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June 14, 2017, 12:57:31 PM |
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The total hashrate is affected the first 2-5 minutes of mining because the gpu's doesn't start to work. If you open gpu-z you can see that only some of the gpu's are working. This isn't a problem if you mine at the same pool for a long period of time. (If all the 6 gpu's have started). But it is a problem when you use it with a profit switcher software like the Nemosminer, minercontrol, nicehash(3rd party) or similar software.
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