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June 14, 2017, 10:46:18 AM |
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Sentences like that really makes you look dumb, sp. Hashing is not like accelerating a car. When hashing starts, it is at full speed from moment one, but some speed measuring mechanisms have a buffer and so it looks as if speed is accelerating.
Try to run the alexis's miner on a 2 core celeron. It sometimes take 2 minutes to start all the 6 gpu threads. If you combine this buggy miner with a profit switcher software that switch between coins every 5 minutes you end up earning very little. The first 30 seconds is never mining with 6 gpu's. (Nemos miner) Imagine what happens if you add a cheap bad internet connection too... I dont get why you're so mean to my miner though...  You want me to push any fixes and then have you around calling it "shitty gpl code" while selling my fork in the same time?
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June 14, 2017, 10:58:58 AM |
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Sentences like that really makes you look dumb, sp. Hashing is not like accelerating a car. When hashing starts, it is at full speed from moment one, but some speed measuring mechanisms have a buffer and so it looks as if speed is accelerating.
Try to run the alexis's miner on a 2 core celeron. It sometimes take 2 minutes to start all the 6 gpu threads. If you combine this buggy miner with a profit switcher software that switch between coins every 5 minutes you end up earning very little. The first 30 seconds is never mining with 6 gpu's. (Nemos miner) Well, Excavator does NOT have this issue at all and can switch from one algorithm to another instantly. And guess why? Because the most of the time spent when launching a miner is cuda context initialization. And if that is done only once, at start of mining, then there are no mining looses during switches. And from next NHM version, there are only two popular algorithms that aren't coevered by Excavator (dagger and lyra2rev2), but we are getting to that part soon. Maybe, sp, you should invest your time into creating better code base instead of reusing old crappy ccminer? 
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June 14, 2017, 11:37:20 AM |
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I dont get why you're so mean to my miner though...  You want me to push any fixes and then have you around calling it "shitty gpl code" while selling my fork in the same time? You fork others work and include new bugs in the code that makes the miner unstable and unusable. It's been 8 months since your last commit to github, and still you waste time in my thread and complain. My fork doesn't have this bug.
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June 14, 2017, 11:38:19 AM |
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Maybe, sp, you should invest your time into creating better code base instead of reusing old crappy ccminer?  Why don't you opensource the Excavator?
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June 14, 2017, 11:42:31 AM |
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There is no bug with alexis78 miner. You can start all 7 gpus at the start with a simple command. Had no issue on all of my nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus).
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June 14, 2017, 11:43:33 AM |
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Maybe, sp, you should invest your time into creating better code base instead of reusing old crappy ccminer?  Why don't you opensource the Excavator? Why would we? So you can copy paste it and resell? ^^
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June 14, 2017, 11:55:28 AM Last edit: June 14, 2017, 12:06:48 PM by sp_ |
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There is no bug with alexis78 miner. You can start all 7 gpus at the start with a simple command. Had no issue on all of my nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus).
Here is a snapshot of the alexisminer bug: 13:45:12 start the miner (6 card celeron rig) 4 gpu thread's is starting (3 seconds delay) and produce almost nothing, and the pool is reducing the difficulty to get a response. 13:48:31 The 5th gpu thread is starting. (2.5 minutes later) The 6th gpu thread was enabled after 5 minutes of mining. 
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June 14, 2017, 12:12:27 PM |
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I've never seen that alexis bug, probably it's windows only. Blame Microsoft.
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June 14, 2017, 12:13:24 PM |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues. I told many times who buys cheap buys twice or should shut up about performance issues obviously caused my morons thinking to save money and complain afterwards about bad performance.
I have no problems with alexis miner..it's stable and faster than anything else
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June 14, 2017, 12:15:26 PM |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues. I told many times who buys cheap buys twice or should shut up about performance issues obviously caused my morons thinking to save money and complain afterwards about bad performance.
I have no problems with alexis miner..it's stable and faster than anything else
@Pallas: its because he thought a cheap celeron is super duper deal for miner with 6-7gpus. lol I never had any issue like many others with alexis miner and no not blame microsoft but blame guys that try to blame others for their faults and mistakes. (e.g putting a crappy cpu into a 6+ gpu mining rig) lol
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June 14, 2017, 12:16:10 PM |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues.
This is working in all the other forks. Most rig owners use cheap celeron cpu's. You rather want to buy another GPU than waste the money on ram, hd and cpu.
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June 14, 2017, 12:25:09 PM Last edit: June 14, 2017, 01:19:43 PM by ioglnx |
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SP not everyone buying cheap crap CPUs. It's not alexis issues.
This is working in all the other forks. Most rig owners use cheap celeron cpu's. You rather want to buy another GPU than waste the money on ram, hd and cpu. Instead you are complaining about your weak cpu has issues then? Well I don't think a good Xeon or i7 is a waste of money...sofar all those issues even if it is about OpenCL miner eting all cpu on nvidia or like your complain about alexis i couldn't observe with a good Xeon/i7 while I saw those issues on crappy celeron ..even a Qualcomm 835 has more performance than those Celeron crappies.
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June 14, 2017, 12:44:39 PM |
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Instead you are complain about your weak cpu has issues then? Well I don't think a good Xeon or i7 is a waste of money...sofar all those issues even if it is about OpenCL miner eting all cpu on nvidia or like your complain about alexis i couldn't observe with a good Xeon/i7 while I saw those issues on crappy celeron ..even a Qualcomm 835 has more performance than those Celeron crappies.
I have more than 100 rigs and they all have cheap celeron cpu's. I don't waste money on an I7. Bether to spend the money on 100 more gpu's. The name of the program is "GPU miner", if I wanted to mine with the CPU I would use a "CPU miner".
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June 14, 2017, 12:52:06 PM |
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Yeah, I've also had the same issue with alexis miner. Didn't know it's the miner and at first thought there was something wrong with my rig. 8* gtx 1060 and skylake celeron with 4gb ram. Other miners work fine. Kinda worked around it by starting 4 miner instances with 2 gpu per instance. I don't think that issue affected the total hashrate though, just an inconvenience.
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June 14, 2017, 12:57:31 PM |
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The total hashrate is affected the first 2-5 minutes of mining because the gpu's doesn't start to work. If you open gpu-z you can see that only some of the gpu's are working. This isn't a problem if you mine at the same pool for a long period of time. (If all the 6 gpu's have started). But it is a problem when you use it with a profit switcher software like the Nemosminer, minercontrol, nicehash(3rd party) or similar software. 
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June 14, 2017, 01:14:01 PM |
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The total hashrate is affected the first 2-5 minutes of mining because the gpu's doesn't start to work. If you open gpu-z you can see that only some of the gpu's are working. This isn't a problem if you mine at the same pool for a long period of time. (If all the 6 gpu's have started). But it is a problem when you use it with a profit switcher software like the Nemosminer, minercontrol, nicehash(3rd party) or similar software.  Kinda worked around it by starting 4 miner instances with 2 gpu per instance. I don't think that issue affected the total hashrate though, just an inconvenience.
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June 14, 2017, 02:10:01 PM |
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On skein algo i get about 305Mh/s for gtx1060 3GB with intensity 31 pl 80W and clock +90 and memory +460 
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June 14, 2017, 02:57:43 PM |
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The total hashrate is affected the first 2-5 minutes of mining because the gpu's doesn't start to work. If you open gpu-z you can see that only some of the gpu's are working. This isn't a problem if you mine at the same pool for a long period of time. (If all the 6 gpu's have started). But it is a problem when you use it with a profit switcher software like the Nemosminer, minercontrol, nicehash(3rd party) or similar software. http://i66.tinypic.com/2a95cur.pngKinda worked around it by starting 4 miner instances with 2 gpu per instance. I don't think that issue affected the total hashrate though, just an inconvenience.
How would you start multiple instances in a multswitch batch like Nemosminer?
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June 14, 2017, 06:26:59 PM |
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Never seen more then 33.3 mhs eth even with my record-breaking palit sjs samsung running 2200/2400 gpu/mem. Any proof about 36mhs with genoil, sp?
You modded bios, and modded code to do 36MHASH stable, and this is too expensive for you my friend.
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June 14, 2017, 08:21:17 PM |
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There is no bug with alexis78 miner. You can start all 7 gpus at the start with a simple command. Had no issue on all of my nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus).
Here is a snapshot of the alexisminer bug: 13:45:12 start the miner (6 card celeron rig) 4 gpu thread's is starting (3 seconds delay) and produce almost nothing, and the pool is reducing the difficulty to get a response. 13:48:31 The 5th gpu thread is starting. (2.5 minutes later) The 6th gpu thread was enabled after 5 minutes of mining.  As I have said multiple times on this forum, if you just use cuda-schedule 0 than all of the cards start at the beginning with absolutely no problem.
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