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The total hashrate is affected the first 2-5 minutes of mining because the gpu's doesn't start to work. If you open gpu-z you can see that only some of the gpu's are working. This isn't a problem if you mine at the same pool for a long period of time. (If all the 6 gpu's have started). But it is a problem when you use it with a profit switcher software like the Nemosminer, minercontrol, nicehash(3rd party) or similar software. Kinda worked around it by starting 4 miner instances with 2 gpu per instance. I don't think that issue affected the total hashrate though, just an inconvenience.
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June 14, 2017, 02:10:01 PM |
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On skein algo i get about 305Mh/s for gtx1060 3GB with intensity 31 pl 80W and clock +90 and memory +460
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cryptoinvestor_x
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June 14, 2017, 02:57:43 PM |
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The total hashrate is affected the first 2-5 minutes of mining because the gpu's doesn't start to work. If you open gpu-z you can see that only some of the gpu's are working. This isn't a problem if you mine at the same pool for a long period of time. (If all the 6 gpu's have started). But it is a problem when you use it with a profit switcher software like the Nemosminer, minercontrol, nicehash(3rd party) or similar software. http://i66.tinypic.com/2a95cur.pngKinda worked around it by starting 4 miner instances with 2 gpu per instance. I don't think that issue affected the total hashrate though, just an inconvenience.
How would you start multiple instances in a multswitch batch like Nemosminer?
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sp_ (OP)
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June 14, 2017, 06:26:59 PM |
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Never seen more then 33.3 mhs eth even with my record-breaking palit sjs samsung running 2200/2400 gpu/mem. Any proof about 36mhs with genoil, sp?
You modded bios, and modded code to do 36MHASH stable, and this is too expensive for you my friend.
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June 14, 2017, 08:21:17 PM |
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There is no bug with alexis78 miner. You can start all 7 gpus at the start with a simple command. Had no issue on all of my nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus).
Here is a snapshot of the alexisminer bug: 13:45:12 start the miner (6 card celeron rig) 4 gpu thread's is starting (3 seconds delay) and produce almost nothing, and the pool is reducing the difficulty to get a response. 13:48:31 The 5th gpu thread is starting. (2.5 minutes later) The 6th gpu thread was enabled after 5 minutes of mining. As I have said multiple times on this forum, if you just use cuda-schedule 0 than all of the cards start at the beginning with absolutely no problem.
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June 14, 2017, 08:37:43 PM |
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There is no bug with alexis78 miner. You can start all 7 gpus at the start with a simple command. Had no issue on all of my nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus).
Here is a snapshot of the alexisminer bug: 13:45:12 start the miner (6 card celeron rig) 4 gpu thread's is starting (3 seconds delay) and produce almost nothing, and the pool is reducing the difficulty to get a response. 13:48:31 The 5th gpu thread is starting. (2.5 minutes later) The 6th gpu thread was enabled after 5 minutes of mining. As I have said multiple times on this forum, if you just use cuda-schedule 0 than all of the cards start at the beginning with absolutely no problem. i have tried cuda-schedule 0 command .. it did work but not for long ill test it again... seeing you Had no issue on all of your nvidia rigs ( 6 - 7 gpus). (ive added sp-mod to NemosMiner so users have the option).. Best Regards #Nemo
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June 14, 2017, 08:41:40 PM |
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Never seen more then 33.3 mhs eth even with my record-breaking palit sjs samsung running 2200/2400 gpu/mem. Any proof about 36mhs with genoil, sp?
You modded bios, and modded code to do 36MHASH stable, and this is too expensive for you my friend. You know pascal bios is signed and protected even if you flash it somehow card would not start if you don`t crack signing....
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minerx117
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June 14, 2017, 08:42:00 PM |
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The total hashrate is affected the first 2-5 minutes of mining because the gpu's doesn't start to work. If you open gpu-z you can see that only some of the gpu's are working. This isn't a problem if you mine at the same pool for a long period of time. (If all the 6 gpu's have started). But it is a problem when you use it with a profit switcher software like the Nemosminer, minercontrol, nicehash(3rd party) or similar software. Kinda worked around it by starting 4 miner instances with 2 gpu per instance. I don't think that issue affected the total hashrate though, just an inconvenience.
How would you start multiple instances in a multswitch batch like Nemosminer? added gpu select command so you now can run 2-3 gpus multiple instances.. MPH 1.7.3 will be up soon which will also have the same options..
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June 14, 2017, 09:48:38 PM |
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Good old crypto summer dump?
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bensam1231
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June 15, 2017, 12:22:50 AM |
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Zen up... Holy shit finally making remotely decent profits with mainstream cards. Still, comparatively speaking, a 1070 should be earning a $18 a day.
now with zencash about 9$ Yeah happened like 30 mins after I posted that. It was up for almost 24hours though. XD Zen up... Holy shit finally making remotely decent profits with mainstream cards. Still, comparatively speaking, a 1070 should be earning a $18 a day.
amd was lucky that ETH is still increasing so much, still i would choose nvidia because of better option, when ETH will go pos or diff boom there will be no more profit for amd There is no magical fairy land of 'if there were no Eth'. If ETH goes away, we're all doomed. AMD hashrate isn't going to disappear. That means it'll overflow to every other coin in existence and we'll all be royally fucked. Even if something isn't as profitable right now, that doesn't mean it wont be profitable nor does it mean they wont mine negative (or what is considered negative to you due to power). Nvidia is not the better option, it hasn't been for months. I keep saying this and there are still the koolaid drinkers and the fanbois that sneak out of the cracks. I'm mining with Nvidia because I've bought it over the last years. New baby miners that buy Nvidia hardware are fucking retarded. Do some research before you drop $10k on something. There are currently roughly 1.2M~ 480s mining Ethereum at the moment. There is no way we'll survive if Eth goes PoS or disappears. Of course. And 1080 should do more, at least 35. And 1080 Ti should do 50+. If you check 1080 Ti, you can see it reaches 35, but memload is only 75% and you cannot change that no matter OC. There is something seriously NOT adjusted for GDDR5X.
It is all about latency and I'm very doubt that you can mask it in software when we talk about dagger-hashimoto. Polaris cards with stock bios are also showin < 100% mem load and poor performance until better timings resulting lower latency are applied. It is not software - but hardware feature. Big latency can be properly hidden with correct programming approach. The current one used by Genoil's CUDA kernel is obviously not the correct one. At the end, big mem bandwidth is more important when proper coding is applied. And there is more of the Koolaid, notice how he ignores all my posts. He's still talking about Genoil's cuda miner for Ethereum, even though there are multiple miners for Ethereum for Nvidia. Genoils is just one of them. For instance, one you guys may have heard of Claymore also works for Nvidia (I don't even know why you would be using Genoil's right now). Performance is almost identical and Claymore built his from the ground up. And no, you can't magically make latency go away. If they could, as I mentioned before, it would've been done before as Dagger is huge. However, a good dual miner is something that needs to be done since Claymore delays all the important changes to his miner for Nvidia by six months. That is something that can be worked on and fixed. Currently Nvidia doesn't have the assembly changes that AMD does and that offered a huge boost to dual mining performance for AMD. Since Nvidia GPUs are more performance heavy instead of memory heavy, focusing on the other algos that are meshed with it would help out immensely.
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June 15, 2017, 06:44:59 AM |
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.. and Claymore built his from the ground up.
How do you know that? ^^
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sp_ (OP)
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June 15, 2017, 09:37:11 AM |
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There are currently roughly 1.2M~ 480s mining Ethereum at the moment. There is no way we'll survive if Eth goes PoS or disappears.
There are currently 0.5M ~ 480s mining zcash at the moment. and 0.1M ~ 480s mining ethereum classic and.. 600++ other mineable gpu coins. The marketcap of ethereum classic is 2 times the marketcap of ethereum April last year.
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June 15, 2017, 09:56:01 AM |
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all the amd that mining eth at moment will move to other dagger coins ,amd is up to 6 time slower compared to nvidia to every other algo.
nvidia is best deal atm especially in efficency... and believe me ... i have amd too
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June 15, 2017, 10:12:52 AM |
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According to coinmarketcap LBRY credits is the 59th biggest altcoin.
The LBRY nethash is currently 6.6 Terrahash
37 714 cards (1060 3gb@175 MHASH each)
or about
113 142 (480 cards) with the opensource opencl miner.
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June 15, 2017, 01:33:34 PM |
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There are currently roughly 1.2M~ 480s mining Ethereum at the moment. There is no way we'll survive if Eth goes PoS or disappears.
There are currently 0.5M ~ 480s mining zcash at the moment. and 0.1M ~ 480s mining ethereum classic and.. 600++ other mineable gpu coins. The marketcap of ethereum classic is 2 times the marketcap of ethereum April last year. Marketcap has literally nothing to do with mining income, emission does as do marketprices and stability (which has a lot to do with volume). Marketcap is one of the worst metrics, it literally tells you nothing about a coin except how much is in circulation. That's a nicely inflated number as well, as we both know AMD isn't really great at mining Equihash compared to Nvidia. Since Equihash is pretty much exclusively Nvidia, if Ethereum completely disappeared Equihash would get hit hard as AMD miners aren't on it. Also like that you keep picking smaller and smaller cards which aren't really optimal to mine with. all the amd that mining eth at moment will move to other dagger coins ,amd is up to 6 time slower compared to nvidia to every other algo.
nvidia is best deal atm especially in efficency... and believe me ... i have amd too
And since you're a smart guy you know how much you make on coins is determined by hashrate. As I mentioned earlier, suboptimal coins can still be profitable compared to mining nothing at all or already saturated coins. There are others that mine when things are negative as well hoping their coins will gain more value. 'Up to', yeah that's a nice little weasel word. Like a super niche algo that support almost no miners like NeoScrypt.
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June 15, 2017, 06:10:41 PM |
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up to means that there are algo where nvida rapes ati (example lbry has 3 times hash rate with 3/4 of power consumption). btw i dont mean that amd miners wont mine other coin ... i also mined algo where my amd did not excel at (as nist5) .... just saying that amd is not the best choice ATM.... lets see what will be next with vega.
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June 16, 2017, 01:27:36 AM |
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up to means that there are algo where nvida rapes ati (example lbry has 3 times hash rate with 3/4 of power consumption). btw i dont mean that amd miners wont mine other coin ... i also mined algo where my amd did not excel at (as nist5) .... just saying that amd is not the best choice ATM.... lets see what will be next with vega.
AMD 100% is the best choice right now if you exclude the shortages. If you can get your hands on 580s for less then $300 or even $400 they're worth buying. They use the same amount of energy as a 1070 (give or take), and you can mine mainstream coins with them to get decent revenue. With Nvidia you have to mine niche coins which are easily saturated or you make like 30% less with a 1070 vs a 580 (Equihash vs Eth+Sia). AMD also has niche coins, which you can also find that Nvidia is bad at. Mainstream coins offer stability and safeguards against your revenue dropping out from under you, either due to a big miner hoping on it, buy support disappearing, or the market just outright crashing. There is absolutely no reason to buy Nvidia. You offer absolutely no points to back up your argument besides 'Nvidia best4evar'. I mean I want to feel good about the $10k worth of hardware I bought too, but that's not the way reality works.
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AMD 100% is the best choice right now if you exclude the shortages. If you can get your hands on 580s for less then $300 or even $400 they're worth buying. They use the same amount of energy as a 1070 (give or take), and you can mine mainstream coins with them to get decent revenue.
While $300 is indeed a good price for 480/580 8gb cards, I see no point buying them for $400. That's a GTX 1070 price, and I think it's just a better card overall. Better in gaming, and better in most mining algos. I mostly have 1060s and 1080s in my nvidia rigs, but just yesterday added a 1070 to one of them. Without much tinkering, it's mining ETH at 31 MH/s (+700 MHz Micron memory) @ ~110W, so pretty much on par with Polaris. It's a lot faster on Equihash though (~450 sol vs 300 sol). Slower in cryptonight (no one is mining it with GPUs now, but still it's a mainstream algo so should be mentioned). And while there are of course niche algorithms that run faster on amd cards, for the past year or so nvidia did have more of those. Lbry, Lyra, Skein, Neoscrypt - those are just what came to mind instantly. I can't recall anything like those for AMDs at the moment (they most likely exist, I just don't know or don't remember any). I'm not a fan of anything and don't care about brands at all, but when presented with a choice between amd 580 or nvidia 1070 for the same price — I'd definitely get the nvidia. Simply because it's a more powerful gpu overall.
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June 16, 2017, 02:45:28 AM |
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AMD 100% is the best choice right now if you exclude the shortages. If you can get your hands on 580s for less then $300 or even $400 they're worth buying. They use the same amount of energy as a 1070 (give or take), and you can mine mainstream coins with them to get decent revenue.
While $300 is indeed a good price for 480/580 8gb cards, I see no point buying them for $400. That's a GTX 1070 price, and I think it's just a better card overall. Better in gaming, and better in most mining algos. I mostly have 1060s and 1080s in my nvidia rigs, but just yesterday added a 1070 to one of them. Without much tinkering, it's mining ETH at 31 MH/s (+700 MHz Micron memory) @ ~110W, so pretty much on par with Polaris. It's a lot faster on Equihash though (~450 sol vs 300 sol). Slower in cryptonight (no one is mining it with GPUs now, but still it's a mainstream algo so should be mentioned). And while there are of course niche algorithms that run faster on amd cards, for the past year or so nvidia did have more of those. Lbry, Lyra, Skein, Neoscrypt - those are just what came to mind instantly. I can't recall anything like those for AMDs at the moment (they most likely exist, I just don't know or don't remember any). I'm not a fan of anything and don't care about brands at all, but when presented with a choice between amd 580 or nvidia 1070 for the same price — I'd definitely get the nvidia. Simply because it's a more powerful gpu overall. Great, now I have a rig with 1080ti x1, 1070 x1 and 1060 6g x2, which algo should I mine to get most profits? thanks!
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June 16, 2017, 05:35:26 AM |
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AMD 100% is the best choice right now if you exclude the shortages. If you can get your hands on 580s for less then $300 or even $400 they're worth buying. They use the same amount of energy as a 1070 (give or take), and you can mine mainstream coins with them to get decent revenue.
While $300 is indeed a good price for 480/580 8gb cards, I see no point buying them for $400. That's a GTX 1070 price, and I think it's just a better card overall. Better in gaming, and better in most mining algos. I mostly have 1060s and 1080s in my nvidia rigs, but just yesterday added a 1070 to one of them. Without much tinkering, it's mining ETH at 31 MH/s (+700 MHz Micron memory) @ ~110W, so pretty much on par with Polaris. It's a lot faster on Equihash though (~450 sol vs 300 sol). Slower in cryptonight (no one is mining it with GPUs now, but still it's a mainstream algo so should be mentioned). And while there are of course niche algorithms that run faster on amd cards, for the past year or so nvidia did have more of those. Lbry, Lyra, Skein, Neoscrypt - those are just what came to mind instantly. I can't recall anything like those for AMDs at the moment (they most likely exist, I just don't know or don't remember any). I'm not a fan of anything and don't care about brands at all, but when presented with a choice between amd 580 or nvidia 1070 for the same price — I'd definitely get the nvidia. Simply because it's a more powerful gpu overall. I agree with wacko. 1070 is just great. You must be retarded(I'm using the same words...) if You pay 1070 price for any AMD. 1060 6gb is also ok with 25+ Mh eth and probably a good resell value. 1080 is just too slow on eth to be worth buying but still very good on many other algos.
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