[ANN] ARCHcoin [ARCH] The ARCH Network - NEWS

[coinme.info]

And name calling is all you can come up with.

[InitialDat]

Coinme.info, just quit crypto please.

Because what i've read from you is another level of stupid.

I tried to be nice, but how dumb can you get for blaming people for your mistake.

[coinme.info]

Don't feed the troll.

Anyone who would suggest that it is anyone's responsibility but their own to handle their own security practices re: their crypto wallets is just that - a troll.

Yes don't address any of the issues raised or pressure the company to improve their product.

Instead just keep telling yourself that everything is sweet and dandy and anyone who suggests anything to the contrary should be ignored.

In the mean time I suggest having a look at this post.

JUST HAD 0.92329 BTC STOLEN - HOW???

Was it the entire balance of your wallet?

Was it an imported address?

Did you recently install anything Bitcoin-related or suspicious recently?

Do you have AV?

Was the wallet password protected and if so when did you last type that password?

Yes all of it wiped out

No I'm very tech savvy

Yes I have AV - keep on top of security quite well and the wallet is on a VM

The wallet was password protected

WTF

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045264.0


Seems a password protected wallet did not help.

No final answer at this stage so maybe, just maybe you can stop harping on about

"It's ALL your fault"

and remember that I'm the one highlighting the shortcomings in the system here
and because of the name calling, head in the sand, kneejerk reactions I've had
to try and spell out the consequences of continued ignorance regarding the flaws
in the POS and wallet system used by ARCH.

I'm sure Edgar can appreciate the seriousness of where this could end, but you will
notice he is silent on the matter in public, so it obviously is a big issue as otherwise
he would be defending his product and assuring his customers that everything is
ok.

Instead he leaves the speculation open to debate and offers no remedy.
Very poor management decision there and speaks volumes about the real motivations
behind this company, IMO.

So I'll leave you with all this to ponder and just maybe changes will be made
to ensure the these attacks and thefts become a thing of the past and future customers
do not have to go through this experience.

[CryptoRekt]

And name calling is all you can come up with.

coinme.info,

When you play in a volatile high risk environment; you run the risk of losing it all. Regardless of how you lost everything whether it would have been on a bad play on a new Alt or someone hacking into your computer.. you still lost. Sitting in front of your computer face rolling your keyboard because you are angry and trying to pin the blame on someone other then yourself (when its your fault for not encrypting your wallet) only contributes to our community's falling opinion of you as a contributor and as a person.

sitting here crying to people who could care less about your unfortunate situation is a huge waste of time.

[InitialDat]

[infinitechaos]

@coinme.info

Yes, sadly, theft of coins is a common occurrence in the crypto scene. It is not, however, a problem that is unique to ARCH.

Exercise some personal responsibility like everyone else in this scene and take care of your own security.

If you hadn't been such an ignorant fuck in this thread, I may have helped you track down your coins.

But you've already made your bed, and it's full of shit, and you can lay in it. Enjoy.

[Askuzai]

For the love of god please stop shitting up this thread and baiting everyone into responding to your security breach, the responsibility is yours -- message Arch directly if you need it addressed -- none of us care as we took the time to research adequate safeguards. End of subject.

[Jamil.Kamil]

This a greatest Symbol of salvation of the humankind...😊

[andreibi]

Don't single out ARCH


From: [ANN][NINJA][Scrypt] RavenCoin - From RavenCoinTeam

What kind of virus is it ?

Scan appdata for bitcoin/darkcoin etc wallet.dat

Yup it is a wallet stealer. Hijacks bitcoin and darkcoin wallet.dat

Well everyone with an encrypted wallet is at least safe

[david1365]

What is the "to da moon price" for ARCH ?
Please tell me

[david1365]

No idea but lets say we sell 500 Mobys over the first slow year (Our economist says 1000-2000 so I'm playing it safe) , this would represent about $30,000,000 of capital, not counting any special orders, merchandising, piers or any capital from our other Ventures like BlockTrust...Take the revenue and multiply it by 4 years (simple math used to calculate a company's net worth)
Let's say 1/3rd excluding expenses... Thats about $40,000,000
So maybe 10x the actual price when we exchange the Arch for actual shares?

Wow, i'm impressed

[newguy12]

No idea but lets say we sell 500 Mobys over the first slow year (Our economist says 1000-2000 so I'm playing it safe) , this would represent about $30,000,000 of capital, not counting any special orders, merchandising, piers or any capital from our other Ventures like BlockTrust...Take the revenue and multiply it by 4 years (simple math used to calculate a company's net worth)
Let's say 1/3rd excluding expenses... Thats about $40,000,000
So maybe 10x the actual price when we exchange the Arch for actual shares?

Wow, i'm impressed

And that's the "conservative" version? Oh my... 

[Uran0s]

I am trully amazed, however you didnt consider BTC's price change, which may take serious dip in 4 years, or serious jump...

Everything looks nice just on paper, reality is quite different, and many things may happen.

People will get emotional reading such numbers, however I would be more thoughtful.

I am supporter of ARCH, because I think it's the one legit coin here, considering all scams.

Good luck with your project BTCA, I hope you will realize your plans, and will make this crypto world better.

[WhalePanda]

I am trully amazed, however you didnt consider BTC's price change, which may take serious dip in 4 years, or serious jump...

Everything looks nice just on paper, reality is quite different, and many things may happen.

People will get emotional reading such numbers, however I would be more thoughtful.

I am supporter of ARCH, because I think it's the one legit coin here, considering all scams.

Good luck with your project BTCA, I hope you will realize your plans, and will make this crypto world better.

BTC price has 0 influence on Moby sales since the people who are buying the mobys have nothing to do with crypto. They will pay their mobys in fiat.
Even if Bitcoin goes to 0, it will change nothing about the sales of mobys, the only thing it might have influence on is Blocktrust which is a seperate entity and it's clearly stated that the capital of the other ventures are not in those calculations

[woozii]

Hey guys I got a secret. Mobys arent real, its just a 3d image put in a terragen landscape. Its called Moby because they need whales to carry their coin on their false promises.

[15266]

Hey guys I got a secret. Mobys arent real, its just a 3d image put in a terragen landscape. Its called Moby because they need whales to carry their coin on their false promises.

You have obviously read nor verified anything for yourself

[woozii]

Hey guys I got a secret. Mobys arent real, its just a 3d image put in a terragen landscape. Its called Moby because they need whales to carry their coin on their false promises.

You have obviously read nor verified anything for yourself

Please show me one person happily on their moby in the water some where. Please show me where they are selling these.

Lol at the pre-order page. Good luck with your endeavors,

[JayTrain]

"the Moby project already has FIVE signed build contracts and EIGHT new contracts coming in."

All this talk of signed contracts and potential contracts is great, but my question is... do you have proof?

From my persepective, these are merely words... which don't mean anything. How do you I know that this is real? Do you have proper documentations?

Since there are a lot of scams in crypto, I am just being extra careful, so please don't view this as fud.

You are completely right and shouldn't buy arch or any other token based on words on twitter or much less expressed in this forum.
Everyone already inside arch has asked me for this and to me its as easy as scanning the docs and posting them.
Thing is I don't believe these are the right mediums to share such documents so I suggest you wait until they are published through the right media outlets in the upcoming days before investing.
Cheers

Again, all this talks of Mobys are superb. But these are just word of mouth. There's no actual proof to validate that Mobys are signed or in the process of being built. You said "upcoming days" in the previous post, but it seems like this topic has been swept under the rug. Not sure how I feel about this anymore.

Also, with the 1000-2000 mobys being built per year, how is that number estimated from your economist?

[bobcaticus]

Dont ask questions like that.

Archers get upset when you ask questions they can't easily knee-jerk reply with 'Its in the Whitepaper!'

[JayTrain]

Dont ask questions like that.

Archers get upset when you ask questions they can't easily knee-jerk reply with 'Its in the Whitepaper!'

I'm not entitled to ask questions?

My question is legitimate and it needs to be addressed.

To this very day there is not a single proof that Moby exists or any proof of it being signed. I've been patiencely waiting for Btcarchitect to release it to the news outlets like he wrote back on April, 29th.

Whitepapers can be changed, and most of the time, development never happens.

You can't estimate 1000-2000 Mobys a year when there's no actual product or confirmation that the product exist.

But I'm sure my question will most likely be swept under the rug again.