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June 10, 2014, 05:48:03 PM
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oh ok.
missed split-key somehow...
is there opportunity to use list of prefixes with list of Public Keys with oclvanityminer?

also is there opportunity to generate priv key without pubkey and than combine somehow?

Or it is only possible with oclvanitygen to generate 1 address at a time with split-key requirements?

thank you!

If it not possible to generate it without public key being used. Otherwise you are compromising the security of the private key by knowing it. As far as I remember, you can use vanityminer and specify the public key in it even if you are generating offline. Best look at samr7's vanitygen thread for instructions.

Trying vanityminer on pool:
Is it normal to have 1.2y 50% prob on 50mkey/sec?

A lot of the time Vanity Pool doesn't have very profitable work. However, new work comes in a few times a week that has better payout. If you automate your vanity miner to fetch work from the pool automatically you should be on that work quickly.

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June 10, 2014, 05:58:03 PM
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oh ok.
missed split-key somehow...
is there opportunity to use list of prefixes with list of Public Keys with oclvanityminer?

also is there opportunity to generate priv key without pubkey and than combine somehow?

Or it is only possible with oclvanitygen to generate 1 address at a time with split-key requirements?

thank you!

If it not possible to generate it without public key being used. Otherwise you are compromising the security of the private key by knowing it. As far as I remember, you can use vanityminer and specify the public key in it even if you are generating offline. Best look at samr7's vanitygen thread for instructions.

Trying vanityminer on pool:
Is it normal to have 1.2y 50% prob on 50mkey/sec?

A lot of the time Vanity Pool doesn't have very profitable work. However, new work comes in a few times a week that has better payout. If you automate your vanity miner to fetch work from the pool automatically you should be on that work quickly.


but it still pure luck - as you are not paid by shares or work contributed - first who found takes all prize?
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June 10, 2014, 06:10:18 PM
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but it still pure luck - as you are not paid by shares or work contributed - first who found takes all prize?
Correct.  There have been suggestions to make it more pool-like, but really there would first have to be more interest in vanity addresses again to begin with.  They have gone somewhat out of vogue Smiley

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June 15, 2014, 09:20:57 AM
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I downloaded the latest version and compiled it for OSX but I can't seem to specify a public address when I use ./oclvanitygen instead of ./vanitygen however the topic start mentions it's both possible. What am I missing? -P doesn't seem to be an option for oclvanitygen.

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June 15, 2014, 11:17:21 PM
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I downloaded the latest version and compiled it for OSX but I can't seem to specify a public address when I use ./oclvanitygen instead of ./vanitygen however the topic start mentions it's both possible. What am I missing? -P doesn't seem to be an option for oclvanitygen.

Best ask on the vanitygen's topic.

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June 25, 2014, 10:50:05 AM
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is it profitable to "mine" this?

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June 25, 2014, 11:21:39 AM
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is it profitable to "mine" this?
That depends on the available work.  The work currently available (as I'm writing this), is too high in difficulty - meaning you would be better off just mining Bitcoin directly.

If you check this list: https://vanitypool.appspot.com/availableWork
Look for the last column, 'Lavishness'.  If that is above 1.0, it makes sense to try generating that vanity address.

Such work pops up from time to time, but you're basically best off setting up a system that checks for such work and only tries mining it when it pops up, instead of 'wasting' processing time on the hard ones that you could otherwise be using for something else.
( I believe there's a fork that semi-automatically does this, but I can't think of it off the top of my head. )

And therein lies a bit of a rub: the Lavishness is only with respect to mining Bitcoin.  It's entirely possible that you can get better returns by mining an Altcoin, even if a relatively lucrave Bitcoin vanity address pops up.

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June 27, 2014, 10:09:34 PM
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Thanks for the info

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July 19, 2014, 02:55:47 PM
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This project has so much potential!

I don't understand why ever aspect of this project is made out to be so complicated. 

You don't see the engine from the drivers seat when driving a car.  Why does the common user need to know 98% of the stuff described on the https://vanitypool.appspot.com page?  It's noise that turns potential miners and buyers off.  Tech people love it.  Great!  Hide it in a section that tech people can find but that takes it away from others.

Both the ordering page and the mining page could really be improved.

Why does it need to be so complicated? 

Sorry if it sounds like I am whining.  I am.  I haven't had much sleep.  Just upsets me that so much work has been done but that this project has been left to the joys of an engineer instead of a marketing person. lol.  Please clean up the pages so that a 7 year old could order!

There is hardly any work to be done because this page is written in a way that it requires a bitcoin software programmer to use it!
https://vanitypool.appspot.com/newWork

Just take the 80/20 rule... make this page so AN AVERAGE BITCOIN USER can order their own vanity address!

Geez... this whole thing could big as big as web address registrars become... please improve it and DUMB IT DOWN.  Smiley

(Sorry if I should have written this when I had more sleep.)
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July 19, 2014, 06:23:18 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. The website is long overdue for a frontend overhaul, but I'm not really that good at frontend design. I also am rather busy with my other projects at the moment, so I don't have the time to improve this one. At the moment it's functioning quite well by itself.

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July 19, 2014, 07:36:49 PM
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So are the prices on the website still current? Are they in BTC?

In other words, do I understand correctly that if I would want to request a search for a pattern with eight characters (1Abcdefg) that that would cost BTC 8.3 or USD 5222?
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July 20, 2014, 03:49:52 AM
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So are the prices on the website still current? Are they in BTC?

In other words, do I understand correctly that if I would want to request a search for a pattern with eight characters (1Abcdefg) that that would cost BTC 8.3 or USD 5222?

Prices are calculated based on the current Bitcoin difficulty. The front page prices are a bit outdated.

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July 23, 2014, 12:50:44 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. The website is long overdue for a frontend overhaul, but I'm not really that good at frontend design. I also am rather busy with my other projects at the moment, so I don't have the time to improve this one. At the moment it's functioning quite well by itself.

If you allow me I could design a rough template for a new site and share it with you. As already mentioned, this project has great potential and all it really needs to grow is more available work, which can be solved by using different language and terminology on the landing page. I can do that for you.
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July 24, 2014, 06:28:17 AM
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If you allow me I could design a rough template for a new site and share it with you. As already mentioned, this project has great potential and all it really needs to grow is more available work, which can be solved by using different language and terminology on the landing page. I can do that for you.

If you're up for that, sure. Just keep in mind I don't have much of a budget for this, so I wouldn't want you to spend too much work on it Wink.

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July 29, 2014, 12:08:30 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. The website is long overdue for a frontend overhaul, but I'm not really that good at frontend design. I also am rather busy with my other projects at the moment, so I don't have the time to improve this one. At the moment it's functioning quite well by itself.

If you allow me I could design a rough template for a new site and share it with you. As already mentioned, this project has great potential and all it really needs to grow is more available work, which can be solved by using different language and terminology on the landing page. I can do that for you.

Jorijnsmit, I think it needs more than that; if you're aiming for average bitcoin-joe-on-the-street to be able to use vanity addresses, even copying and pasting the private key into a website/app key-import text box might be more trouble than they'd be comfortable with. Certainly if they generated the key on a website then had to import it into a phone app (or any other device), or the other way round. The ideal would be a point-and-click interface to "download" the key and apply it. There's no mime-type or file format or filename-type-extension set up for that, and no apps I'm aware of have considered to make it easy enough to do anything like that. Because of the low demand for usage of that kind of feature, I think - bit of a chicken and egg type problem.

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July 29, 2014, 12:21:04 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion. The website is long overdue for a frontend overhaul, but I'm not really that good at frontend design. I also am rather busy with my other projects at the moment, so I don't have the time to improve this one. At the moment it's functioning quite well by itself.

If you allow me I could design a rough template for a new site and share it with you. As already mentioned, this project has great potential and all it really needs to grow is more available work, which can be solved by using different language and terminology on the landing page. I can do that for you.

Jorijnsmit, I think it needs more than that; if you're aiming for average bitcoin-joe-on-the-street to be able to use vanity addresses, even copying and pasting the private key into a website/app key-import text box might be more trouble than they'd be comfortable with. Certainly if they generated the key on a website then had to import it into a phone app (or any other device), or the other way round. The ideal would be a point-and-click interface to "download" the key and apply it. There's no mime-type or file format or filename-type-extension set up for that, and no apps I'm aware of have considered to make it easy enough to do anything like that. Because of the low demand for usage of that kind of feature, I think - bit of a chicken and egg type problem.

Are you talking about importing a private key? Because in that what I think you are describing are QR codes. Of course not all smartphone apps would support this, so some people would just have to retype the private key or copy-paste it somehow.

Anyway I do think Vanity Pool lends itself very well for providing keys to bitcoin-joe-on-the-street guys, if the site is presented in a different way that is.

Do you keep (Google) analytics statistics ThePiachu? I wonder what your bounce rate is, e.g. how many people decide to visit the site but close it after seeing the front page. The bounce rate for the "request a vanity address" page would be even more interesting.

I never heard back from you on some text I rewrote for the front page...
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July 29, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
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I do have analytics. It looks like my bounce rate overall is 42.52%. For /newWork, it's 44.44%.

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August 16, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
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Hi, I would like to send in some work, but I would like to know several things:

1. Is this project still active?
2. How long can I expect it to take (8 characters including the 1 in the beginning)
3. What if my work is not solved. Do I get the money back?
4. I presume that if my lavishness is the highest, then my work would be first to be solved/worked on?

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August 16, 2014, 09:59:30 PM
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Hi, I would like to send in some work, but I would like to know several things:

1. Is this project still active?
2. How long can I expect it to take (8 characters including the 1 in the beginning)
3. What if my work is not solved. Do I get the money back?
4. I presume that if my lavishness is the highest, then my work would be first to be solved/worked on?

Thanks

The project is active, but there isn't much new development - it's a service that works by itself. 8 characters can take a few days or more, depending on how much money you put down as a reward. I can cancel the work and refund you if you change your mind, but it's not an automated process. In most cases miners should work on highest lavishness work, but some prefer smaller lavishness but also smaller complexity work for more predictable return.

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August 16, 2014, 10:35:58 PM
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I believe it would be better if the system was changed to actually pay everybody for their work. Shares etc, no idea how this would work(perhaps from a pattern of 1GoldMoney, valid addresses like 1GoLdMoNeY should be considered like shares?), but right now it's every man for himself so it makes mining addresses a bit useless.

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