GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[alienesb]

Notice how quick all the mods resigned then came in here to say "I don't know anything" lol. The rats are jumping from the bilge and are swearing they didn't know the boat they were on were selling products illegally. or better yet, "NDA". Homero taught them well.

Simply because they probably don't know anything, if MODs did know something a number of them would have created sock puppet accounts behind a VPN and spilled what they knew a long time ago.  

Incorrect. Based on chat dialogue alone GAW could probably trace the conversation and find who it really was that leaked it.

Clearly you are overestimating their capabilities.  Here's how GAW runs:

1) Josh announces something
2) Joe and everybody else hears about the feature and scrambles to make it "work"
3) They launch the "thing"
4) It's broken
5) Spend a month fixing it.
6) Repeat.

Oh, and before you start stomping and ranting I have "inside knowledge" this is SOP for them and anybody with a brain can see this.

Yeah that sounds about right. They went to far this time though.

[interstellar]

Can agree with him, Josh did listen. Josh did also act quickly, so no lies. Yep its in the right direction. BACKWARDS

https://hashtalk.org/topic/27661/good-news-paybase-update/69

Its funny that post was actually edited and changed I thought it looked familiar and realized I took a screen shot of the original minutes after it came out.

This new @Paybase king seems just the same as the old...

[galdur]

What's my prize?

Bragging rights. Best prize the intertubes can offer.

[ZiG]

Being first on page 666 would really make my day.

Do you worship Lucifer ...

ZiG

[interstellar]

I think you're blowing this mod thing out of proportion, I could see a lot of people wanting to be mods and signing an NDA if they were asked to simply thinking it applied to the information they see and the standard user doesn't.  Ban reasons comes to mind.

I agree that an NDA for a public forum is questionable but on the other hand I can understand people wanting to be mods and not thinking twice about signing it before the last couple of weeks.  Lots of them probably saw being a mod as an honor (for lack of a better word) at some point, it doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to change their mind or think constructively.

hashtalk is the centerpiece of Garza's whole scam operation which stretches beyond paycoin and includes Hashlets and other products before that. The censorship is used, along with the RA-RA cultists, the grandiose announcements, and manipulative fake accounts as necessary, to lure investors into the scam. That's why being a mod is so complicit in the scam. They are handling one of the critical parts of the scam, censorship. I'm sure not every mod knew, but I'm sure some knew what was up.

I don't see why they would have shared any incriminating evidence with MODs, it would make no sense to me.

I do agree with your statement that being a MOD means you have to censor but I think it was easier to do because of the turf wars, it's easy to ban a user who ends up saying "you're a piece of s***" after being taunted and called a troll by the consensus.  

We're all humans, I'm sure they were thinking they would do good when they signed up and over time changed their mind and became uncomfortable.  Some people may have a binary mind but it takes time for most to go from "this is great" to "I can't continue to do this".

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that it's all roses and pink, I just think people are blowing this issue out of proportion and there's no need to resort to name calling.

They weren't banning just users saying shit. They were banning any users asking wise questions that they didn't want to answer or to be seen by the followers. I know, cause I was one (the very first time I got banned).

[galdur]

Being first on page 666 would really make my day.

Do you worship Lucifer ...

ZiG

Absolutely. I sacrifice a goat every Sunday to ensure trading success.

[WaffleMaster]

They weren't banning just users saying shit. They were banning any users asking wise questions that they didn't want to answer or to be seen by the followers. I know, cause I was one (the very first time I got banned).

No, they're really nice people who signed an NDA without being told anything an NDA would be required for. Come on, they're good people and not at all sponsoring a cult with limited views and no acceptance of visual proof or even slight questioning. That's blasphemy.

[cryptofunk]

I think you're blowing this mod thing out of proportion, I could see a lot of people wanting to be mods and signing an NDA if they were asked to simply thinking it applied to the information they see and the standard user doesn't.  Ban reasons comes to mind.

I agree that an NDA for a public forum is questionable but on the other hand I can understand people wanting to be mods and not thinking twice about signing it before the last couple of weeks.  Lots of them probably saw being a mod as an honor (for lack of a better word) at some point, it doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to change their mind or think constructively.

hashtalk is the centerpiece of Garza's whole scam operation which stretches beyond paycoin and includes Hashlets and other products before that. The censorship is used, along with the RA-RA cultists, the grandiose announcements, and manipulative fake accounts as necessary, to lure investors into the scam. That's why being a mod is so complicit in the scam. They are handling one of the critical parts of the scam, censorship. I'm sure not every mod knew, but I'm sure some knew what was up.

I don't see why they would have shared any incriminating evidence with MODs, it would make no sense to me.

I do agree with your statement that being a MOD means you have to censor but I think it was easier to do because of the turf wars, it's easy to ban a user who ends up saying "you're a piece of s***" after being taunted and called a troll by the consensus.  

We're all humans, I'm sure they were thinking they would do good when they signed up and over time changed their mind and became uncomfortable.  Some people may have a binary mind but it takes time for most to go from "this is great" to "I can't continue to do this".

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that it's all roses and pink, I just think people are blowing this issue out of proportion and there's no need to resort to name calling.

They weren't banning just users saying shit. They were banning any users asking wise questions that they didn't want to answer or to be seen by the followers. I know, cause I was one (the very first time I got banned).

I know, I got shadow banned myself for no reason.  I'm saying that it's easier to censor when people are pushed beyond their breaking point, then you can justify the ban on an actual rule being broken. A lot of the critical question bans were made that way, you let the person be pushed beyond their breaking point and write something stupid and use that as the ban reason.  

[ZiG]

who did that

It is strange, been watching the buy orders on Cryptsy for a while. That 5000 xpy buy order seems to float around under the current bid protected by some slightly higher small 0.00002 bids.
Any bot or trading experts around can explain this?

Homero "bots" ...he is the "Market Maker" ...His wall is not BUYING ...it is pumping the price up...psychologically...to create a buying pressure from the "Public"...so Homero Can sell to them...OK...

ZiG

That could very well be the case as they are so they say about ready to implement credit card purchases.

https://i.imgur.com/Dy9HaxL.jpg

Credit or debit cards is JUST "Another smoke & mirrors" BS ...just to distract the guys from HIS SELLING activities ...and to keep the clowns in his "Sphere of influence" ...and to continue be interested in BUYING his 12+ millions virtual goods with THEIR REAL $$$ ...

NOTHING ELSE...

ZiG

EDIT...: "The FOOLS are soon separated from THEIR MONEY" ...or something like that...

I like your Quote better, with the ....or something like that. I have made a request to add it on BrainyQuote

I am deeply "Honored" ...

Thanks...

After reading so many pages...full of so little substance ...you are getting a bit of "retarded", aren't you...
At least I am...

ZiG

[Mad Macs]

I think you're blowing this mod thing out of proportion, I could see a lot of people wanting to be mods and signing an NDA if they were asked to simply thinking it applied to the information they see and the standard user doesn't.  Ban reasons comes to mind.

I agree that an NDA for a public forum is questionable but on the other hand I can understand people wanting to be mods and not thinking twice about signing it before the last couple of weeks.  Lots of them probably saw being a mod as an honor (for lack of a better word) at some point, it doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to change their mind or think constructively.

hashtalk is the centerpiece of Garza's whole scam operation which stretches beyond paycoin and includes Hashlets and other products before that. The censorship is used, along with the RA-RA cultists, the grandiose announcements, and manipulative fake accounts as necessary, to lure investors into the scam. That's why being a mod is so complicit in the scam. They are handling one of the critical parts of the scam, censorship. I'm sure not every mod knew, but I'm sure some knew what was up.

I don't see why they would have shared any incriminating evidence with MODs, it would make no sense to me.

I do agree with your statement that being a MOD means you have to censor but I think it was easier to do because of the turf wars, it's easy to ban a user who ends up saying "you're a piece of s***" after being taunted and called a troll by the consensus.  

We're all humans, I'm sure they were thinking they would do good when they signed up and over time changed their mind and became uncomfortable.  Some people may have a binary mind but it takes time for most to go from "this is great" to "I can't continue to do this".

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that it's all roses and pink, I just think people are blowing this issue out of proportion and there's no need to resort to name calling.

They weren't banning just users saying shit. They were banning any users asking wise questions that they didn't want to answer or to be seen by the followers. I know, cause I was one (the very first time I got banned).

I know, I got shadow banned myself for no reason.  I'm saying that it's easier to censor when people are pushed beyond their breaking point, then you can justify the ban on an actual rule being broken. A lot of the critical question bans were made that way, you let the person be pushed beyond their breaking point and write something stupid and use that as the ban reason.  

Josh shadow banned.

[nemesio]

I think you're blowing this mod thing out of proportion, I could see a lot of people wanting to be mods and signing an NDA if they were asked to simply thinking it applied to the information they see and the standard user doesn't.  Ban reasons comes to mind.

I agree that an NDA for a public forum is questionable but on the other hand I can understand people wanting to be mods and not thinking twice about signing it before the last couple of weeks.  Lots of them probably saw being a mod as an honor (for lack of a better word) at some point, it doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to change their mind or think constructively.

hashtalk is the centerpiece of Garza's whole scam operation which stretches beyond paycoin and includes Hashlets and other products before that. The censorship is used, along with the RA-RA cultists, the grandiose announcements, and manipulative fake accounts as necessary, to lure investors into the scam. That's why being a mod is so complicit in the scam. They are handling one of the critical parts of the scam, censorship. I'm sure not every mod knew, but I'm sure some knew what was up.

I don't see why they would have shared any incriminating evidence with MODs, it would make no sense to me.

I do agree with your statement that being a MOD means you have to censor but I think it was easier to do because of the turf wars, it's easy to ban a user who ends up saying "you're a piece of s***" after being taunted and called a troll by the consensus.  

We're all humans, I'm sure they were thinking they would do good when they signed up and over time changed their mind and became uncomfortable.  Some people may have a binary mind but it takes time for most to go from "this is great" to "I can't continue to do this".

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that it's all roses and pink, I just think people are blowing this issue out of proportion and there's no need to resort to name calling.

They weren't banning just users saying shit. They were banning any users asking wise questions that they didn't want to answer or to be seen by the followers. I know, cause I was one (the very first time I got banned).

I know, I got shadow banned myself for no reason.  I'm saying that it's easier to censor when people are pushed beyond their breaking point, then you can justify the ban on an actual rule being broken. A lot of the critical question bans were made that way, you let the person be pushed beyond their breaking point and write something stupid and use that as the ban reason.  

Josh shadow banned.

Until the new 'admins' began abusing the power themselves.

[Mad Macs]

I think you're blowing this mod thing out of proportion, I could see a lot of people wanting to be mods and signing an NDA if they were asked to simply thinking it applied to the information they see and the standard user doesn't.  Ban reasons comes to mind.

I agree that an NDA for a public forum is questionable but on the other hand I can understand people wanting to be mods and not thinking twice about signing it before the last couple of weeks.  Lots of them probably saw being a mod as an honor (for lack of a better word) at some point, it doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to change their mind or think constructively.

hashtalk is the centerpiece of Garza's whole scam operation which stretches beyond paycoin and includes Hashlets and other products before that. The censorship is used, along with the RA-RA cultists, the grandiose announcements, and manipulative fake accounts as necessary, to lure investors into the scam. That's why being a mod is so complicit in the scam. They are handling one of the critical parts of the scam, censorship. I'm sure not every mod knew, but I'm sure some knew what was up.

I don't see why they would have shared any incriminating evidence with MODs, it would make no sense to me.

I do agree with your statement that being a MOD means you have to censor but I think it was easier to do because of the turf wars, it's easy to ban a user who ends up saying "you're a piece of s***" after being taunted and called a troll by the consensus.  

We're all humans, I'm sure they were thinking they would do good when they signed up and over time changed their mind and became uncomfortable.  Some people may have a binary mind but it takes time for most to go from "this is great" to "I can't continue to do this".

Don't get me wrong, I don't think that it's all roses and pink, I just think people are blowing this issue out of proportion and there's no need to resort to name calling.

They weren't banning just users saying shit. They were banning any users asking wise questions that they didn't want to answer or to be seen by the followers. I know, cause I was one (the very first time I got banned).

I know, I got shadow banned myself for no reason.  I'm saying that it's easier to censor when people are pushed beyond their breaking point, then you can justify the ban on an actual rule being broken. A lot of the critical question bans were made that way, you let the person be pushed beyond their breaking point and write something stupid and use that as the ban reason.  

Josh shadow banned.

Until the new 'admins' began abusing the power themselves.

Yeah, root dude seems like an asshole.  Always posting about having a hammer. Makes me think he has a wee one of his own he's compensating for.

[vancefox]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/27761/what-and-why-is-this-address-so-important/9

So someone put up the question about the non-prime prime350 getting >3000%......  Oh it's great...

"The blockchain will expose all..."  -Every BTC holder

[suchmoon]

Until the new 'admins' began abusing the power themselves.

A certain dope-currency-fan-person?

https://hashtalk.org/topic/27761/what-and-why-is-this-address-so-important/9

So someone put up the question about the non-prime prime350 getting >3000%......  Oh it's great...

"The blockchain will expose all..."  -Every BTC holder

They will run out of 30 days before they get to that.

[maildir]

Par for the course, Homero now decides to post to Reddit for real after stating officially communications would only be released on his forum. Desperately seeking even more attention or simply drunk. He posts are response to Reddit, which gets deleted and once again all the attention and spot light is swung his way ona quiet Saturday evening.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/27762/gawceo-on-reddit/4

Maybe Jessica is really just a beard?

[nemesio]

Until the new 'admins' began abusing the power themselves.

A certain dope-currency-fan-person?

How did you guess?

[Liquid71]

What possibly would warrant mere simple moderators on a forum to be under NDA? Does the owner make them privy to critical decisions, methods of operations and plans of action, perhaps directions to take and why and if so why? Or does he simply exclude them from an business related meetings and discussions.

The fact that there was a NDA for mods is proof they know more than the public victims. The fact that they were willing to sign an NDA to be a forum mod speaks for itself.

GAW Required everyone that did business for them to sign an NDA.

Just because of the fact that we MIGHT be told something. Which in my dealings we weren't.

You guys requested facts, they have been provided. But please, continue with speculative attacks.

Were you guys paid or compensated in any way for being mods?

If anyone was paid, that was between them and GAW, I can't speak on behalf on that, for i don't know.

So you are saying, no you were not paid or you are taking the 5th on that?

I answered the question already.

As everything is being turned to an attack by an angry mob. I'm off. This is no longer a discussion and information being exchanged, this is a witch hunt to individuals that were brought blindly into a position who left because they realized what was going on.

Umm, where did I miss this exactly? And I don't mean implied.

Jesus, these mods are just employees trying to save their own asses. They deserve no sympathy whatsoever and should hang right next to Garza. I don't buy any of their bullshit. They know exactly what was going on in the scheme to bilk innocents out of large sums of money in that cesspool boiler-room scam site hashtalk.

Let em hang boys!

+1

None of them were jumping ship when the lie about the Amazon integration was exposed or any of the other obvious lies. They only jumped ship after they dumped and the price crashed and the house of cards was coming down. They didn't leave because they have morals..

[Liquid71]

I think you're blowing this mod thing out of proportion, I could see a lot of people wanting to be mods and signing an NDA if they were asked to simply thinking it applied to the information they see and the standard user doesn't.  Ban reasons comes to mind.

I agree that an NDA for a public forum is questionable but on the other hand I can understand people wanting to be mods and not thinking twice about signing it before the last couple of weeks.  Lots of them probably saw being a mod as an honor (for lack of a better word) at some point, it doesn't mean that they aren't entitled to change their mind or think constructively.

Did ANY of the mods LOSE money on this scam? If so then maybe they too are victims, but I haven't seen any of them that haven't admitted they dumped for a profit weeks ago, and only jumped ship now. I could be wrong, I only follow this thread not HT

[suchmoon]

How did you guess?

NDA.

Par for the course, Homero now decides to post to Reddit for real after stating officially communications would only be released on his forum. Desperately seeking even more attention or simply drunk. He posts are response to Reddit, which gets deleted and once again all the attention and spot light is swung his way ona quiet Saturday evening.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/27762/gawceo-on-reddit/4

Maybe Jessica is really just a beard?

This is interesting:

Having said that, we are working on some options for our customers. We will NOT allow any of our customers, that purchased through us or HashPoints, suffer a loss from their original investment.
We will stand behind Paycoin and our customers, we are not going anywhere. We will face the challenges ahead and we will deliver what we promised.

It's funny how he seems to offer an apology for bad communication yet AGAIN does the same thing with vague promises. Will deliver $20?

I like tom14cat14's interpretation of that:

My guess is that is just normal trading risk. They are trying to protect their customers which the way I read it is they will allow some sort of buy back for $4 per coin for those. Of course just a guess and even if I am right we will see if it ever happens. I am glad he is saying he will do something but I will not really believe it until I see it happen.

[nemesio]

What possibly would warrant mere simple moderators on a forum to be under NDA? Does the owner make them privy to critical decisions, methods of operations and plans of action, perhaps directions to take and why and if so why? Or does he simply exclude them from an business related meetings and discussions.

The fact that there was a NDA for mods is proof they know more than the public victims. The fact that they were willing to sign an NDA to be a forum mod speaks for itself.

GAW Required everyone that did business for them to sign an NDA.

Just because of the fact that we MIGHT be told something. Which in my dealings we weren't.

You guys requested facts, they have been provided. But please, continue with speculative attacks.

Were you guys paid or compensated in any way for being mods?

If anyone was paid, that was between them and GAW, I can't speak on behalf on that, for i don't know.

So you are saying, no you were not paid or you are taking the 5th on that?

I answered the question already.

As everything is being turned to an attack by an angry mob. I'm off. This is no longer a discussion and information being exchanged, this is a witch hunt to individuals that were brought blindly into a position who left because they realized what was going on.

Umm, where did I miss this exactly? And I don't mean implied.

Jesus, these mods are just employees trying to save their own asses. They deserve no sympathy whatsoever and should hang right next to Garza. I don't buy any of their bullshit. They know exactly what was going on in the scheme to bilk innocents out of large sums of money in that cesspool boiler-room scam site hashtalk.

Let em hang boys!

+1

None of them were jumping ship when the lie about the Amazon integration was exposed or any of the other obvious lies. They only jumped ship after they dumped and the price crashed and the house of cards was coming down. They didn't leave because they have morals..

Incorrect - That happened in the last week. The mods in question left long before.

https://hashtalk.org/topic/23482/nemesio-appreciation-thread/2
https://hashtalk.org/topic/23469/animoesto-appreciation-thread/20