GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[truckinusa]

I was amazed myself.  As soon as it is pointed out, the scammer hides it by deleting the thread.

[vObh0n]6W]

I was amazed myself.  As soon as it is pointed out, the scammer hides it by deleting the thread.

It wasn't deleted, just renamed.

[m3]

I own btcfeed.net and after publishing articles about paycoin in the past we have been mysteriously hit with a DDOS attack shortly after. We decided to stop reporting about paycoin because we didnt want to loose traffic from the ddos that followed. I salute cryptocoinsnews for standing up against this scum and we will soon be publishing an additional report about gawceo and paycoin.

Are you serious? Just this Friday, one of your most prolific writers offered Garza to write a positive review of CoinStand on BTCFeed "to rebuild the trust".

wasnt aware of that. Thanks for letting me know, as an editor I would never let anything remotely positive to be posted about GAW or paycoin or coinstand on my site.

edit: also, unlike CCN, NewsBTC, And Bitcoinist we never accepted GAWs scam money to host banners for paybase

[MrCEO]

Hello, I no understand why you must be hating on me coin all the times. Don't you half jobs and stuffses to do? Howbouts I give you each tons of xpy and you be stopping to troll my briliant coin? Me thinks it very good idea.

Anyone who no longer be trolling me coin post paycoin addresses and me send you someting. That is all.

[capsqrl]

I own btcfeed.net and after publishing articles about paycoin in the past we have been mysteriously hit with a DDOS attack shortly after. We decided to stop reporting about paycoin because we didnt want to loose traffic from the ddos that followed. I salute cryptocoinsnews for standing up against this scum and we will soon be publishing an additional report about gawceo and paycoin.

Are you serious? Just this Friday, one of your most prolific writers offered Garza to write a positive review of CoinStand on BTCFeed "to rebuild the trust".

wasnt aware of that. Thanks for letting me know, as an editor I would never let anything remotely positive to be posted about GAW or paycoin or coinstand on my site.

That's good to hear, but doesn't change the fact that at least one of your most prolific writers is a Paycoin shill who declared his lack of journalistic integrity and his willingness to use your site for pure shilling purposes. Not only do you have writers like that, but those writers are also seemingly unaware of the policy you proudly announce on this forum against writing about Paycoin. The kindest possible interpretation is that you don't have a very good grip on your own site. The less kind interpretations I will not enumerate, but I find them easier to believe.

[vizique]

I own btcfeed.net and after publishing articles about paycoin in the past we have been mysteriously hit with a DDOS attack shortly after. We decided to stop reporting about paycoin because we didnt want to loose traffic from the ddos that followed. I salute cryptocoinsnews for standing up against this scum and we will soon be publishing an additional report about gawceo and paycoin.

Are you serious? Just this Friday, one of your most prolific writers offered Garza to write a positive review of CoinStand on BTCFeed "to rebuild the trust".

wasnt aware of that. Thanks for letting me know, as an editor I would never let anything remotely positive to be posted about GAW or paycoin or coinstand on my site.

That's good to hear, but doesn't change the fact that at least one of your most prolific writers is a Paycoin shill who declared his lack of journalistic integrity and his willingness to use your site for pure shilling purposes. Not only do you have writers like that, but those writers are also seemingly unaware of the policy you proudly announce on this forum against writing about Paycoin. The kindest possible interpretation is that you don't have a very good grip on your own site. The less kind interpretations I will not enumerate, but I find them easier to believe.

Wow, biiiiatch!!!

As someone who knows and talks to jdebunt regularly, I can tell you he isn't a shill for GAW. YOU however seem to want a fight ..that or just want to be a real snipe....

anyhoo, as many notice, one of the only ways to get anywhere near GAW and its related products is to behave in an obsequious manner, this was clearly a "polite" attempt to get on aboard a program that many have suspected is a sham...trust a reporter to try an get an inside line eh?! whatever next?

So, reading between the lines AND knowing the lad as I do, I suspect no ill intent from jdebunt. You however should probably get off the hobby horse and put something cool where its likely to do the most good, likely a suppository.

[m3]

I own btcfeed.net and after publishing articles about paycoin in the past we have been mysteriously hit with a DDOS attack shortly after. We decided to stop reporting about paycoin because we didnt want to loose traffic from the ddos that followed. I salute cryptocoinsnews for standing up against this scum and we will soon be publishing an additional report about gawceo and paycoin.

Are you serious? Just this Friday, one of your most prolific writers offered Garza to write a positive review of CoinStand on BTCFeed "to rebuild the trust".

wasnt aware of that. Thanks for letting me know, as an editor I would never let anything remotely positive to be posted about GAW or paycoin or coinstand on my site.

That's good to hear, but doesn't change the fact that at least one of your most prolific writers is a Paycoin shill who declared his lack of journalistic integrity and his willingness to use your site for pure shilling purposes. Not only do you have writers like that, but those writers are also seemingly unaware of the policy you proudly announce on this forum against writing about Paycoin. The kindest possible interpretation is that you don't have a very good grip on your own site. The less kind interpretations I will not enumerate, but I find them easier to believe.

yea dude calm down and smoke some weed why are you trying to start a fight with someone who is on the same aide as you.

[Paul Revere]

Brilliant Blockchain detective work, as usual Paul Revere.

Thanks for the ego boost my friend, but I am only someone with a basic knowledge of this stuff that has the patience to click through all of this to trace things. Speaking of which, I decided to try to trace backwards from the associated groups of 30,000-40,000XPY in that 2,100,000XPY block. Something I can say for sure is that all of those groups in that block (accounting for ~90% of the block) are controlled by the same person, and ALL of them are being endlessly shuffled, with about every 10th transaction sending a small amount to an exchange. I chose one that showed some being siphoned off and going directly to Bittrex:

Tracing backwards this group sends small amounts to accumulator addresses (which link all of these groups together) and about every 10th transaction some goes to one of the exchanges:





I gave up counting shuffle transactions at 200, I think I am about 500 back now. Here is where I currently have traced this group backwards to, this being on the 27th: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474669.htm The group has 42,571 XPY in it at this point, so ~11,000 XPY have been siphoned off from this point forward, about ~1,000 going directly to exchanges, and the rest going to accumulator addresses, some growing real large, others being reshuffled and sent to exchanges already. I have a lunch to cook, and then I will try to find the source of this ~42,000 XPY group. Any guesses as to where this will lead?

[rawbot]

And he did say he would gladly "REVIEW"  Coinstand.    He didn't say he would review it gladly.  I can't imagine there would be anything good to say after reviewing that car crash of a shopping site.

[m3]

And he did say he would "REVIEW"  Coinstand.    He didn't say he would lie about it.  I can't imagine there would be anything good to say after reviewing that car crash of a shopping site.

i messaged him and will have him check in this thread with a statement. He is one of my top writers and always reported honestly.

[coinits]

The proof is everywhere you look, hell, these fraudster assholes are getting lazy and not even bothering to try to hide their tracks anymore. Figure it the fuck out already! H. Josh Garza and has team of fraudsters are playing all of you investing in XPY for FOOLS! H. Josh Garza (aka Homero Garza aka Josh Garza aka GAWCEO aka Mr CEO) lured people into investing in Paycoin with various promises, one of which is that he and GAW would NOT and have not dumped XPY into the open market. There is 100% conclusive proof that they are in fact doing exactly that and have been all along. Promising investors something and then intentionally doing the opposite is called FRAUD.

Homero will claim that it is your fault the he had to perpetrate fraud on his GAWTARDS because you exposed his fraud and he had to act fast to have money so he could keep the fraud going so he could convince the GAWTARDS to buy more PayCoin so he can continue milking them. Yes it is all your fault.

[capsqrl]

anyhoo, as many notice, one of the only ways to get anywhere near GAW and its related products is to behave in an obsequious manner, this was clearly a "polite" attempt to get on aboard a program that many have suspected is a sham...trust a reporter to try an get an inside line eh?! whatever next?

Ah, it was just an ingenious trap to get closer to Josh. I didn't understand that at first. Sorry for exposing it then. I honestly don't want a fight. Hope I didn't ruin a scoop for BTCFeed.

[vObh0n]6W]

Brilliant Blockchain detective work, as usual Paul Revere.

Thanks for the ego boost my friend, but I am only someone with a basic knowledge of this stuff that has the patience to click through all of this to trace things. Speaking of which, I decided to try to trace backwards from the associated groups of 30,000-40,000XPY in that 2,100,000XPY block. Something I can say for sure is that all of those groups in that block (accounting for ~90% of the block) are controlled by the same person, and ALL of them are being endlessly shuffled, with about every 10th transaction sending a small amount to an exchange. I chose one that showed some being siphoned off and going directly to Bittrex:

Tracing backwards this group sends small amounts to accumulator addresses (which link all of these groups together) and about every 10th transaction some goes to one of the exchanges:





I gave up counting shuffle transactions at 200, I think I am about 500 back now. Here is where I currently have traced this group backwards to, this being on the 27th: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474669.htm The group has 42,571 XPY in it at this point, so ~11,000 XPY have been siphoned off from this point forward, about ~1,000 going directly to exchanges, and the rest going to accumulator addresses, some growing real large, others being reshuffled and sent to exchanges already. I have a lunch to cook, and then I will try to find the source of this ~42,000 XPY group. Any guesses as to where this will lead?

A bunch of small transactions to exchanges is likely people withdrawing from either zencloud or paybase.

[MrCEO]

The proof is everywhere you look, hell, these fraudster assholes are getting lazy and not even bothering to try to hide their tracks anymore. Figure it the fuck out already! H. Josh Garza and has team of fraudsters are playing all of you investing in XPY for FOOLS! H. Josh Garza (aka Homero Garza aka Josh Garza aka GAWCEO aka Mr CEO) lured people into investing in Paycoin with various promises, one of which is that he and GAW would NOT and have not dumped XPY into the open market. There is 100% conclusive proof that they are in fact doing exactly that and have been all along. Promising investors something and then intentionally doing the opposite is called FRAUD.

Homero will claim that it is your fault the he had to perpetrate fraud on his GAWTARDS because you exposed his fraud and he had to act fast to have money so he could keep the fraud going so he could convince the GAWTARDS to buy more PayCoin so he can continue milking them. Yes it is all your fault.

This no be my fault! Jerks like Paully had to go and dump my coin and that's why it fell so low! I've got a super duper New Thing Coming Soon™ that I can't tell you about yet!

Also, I haven't made a single penny from this whole business.

_{(Bitcoin, yes.)}

[Paul Revere]

Brilliant Blockchain detective work, as usual Paul Revere.

Thanks for the ego boost my friend, but I am only someone with a basic knowledge of this stuff that has the patience to click through all of this to trace things. Speaking of which, I decided to try to trace backwards from the associated groups of 30,000-40,000XPY in that 2,100,000XPY block. Something I can say for sure is that all of those groups in that block (accounting for ~90% of the block) are controlled by the same person, and ALL of them are being endlessly shuffled, with about every 10th transaction sending a small amount to an exchange. I chose one that showed some being siphoned off and going directly to Bittrex:

Tracing backwards this group sends small amounts to accumulator addresses (which link all of these groups together) and about every 10th transaction some goes to one of the exchanges:





I gave up counting shuffle transactions at 200, I think I am about 500 back now. Here is where I currently have traced this group backwards to, this being on the 27th: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474669.htm The group has 42,571 XPY in it at this point, so ~11,000 XPY have been siphoned off from this point forward, about ~1,000 going directly to exchanges, and the rest going to accumulator addresses, some growing real large, others being reshuffled and sent to exchanges already. I have a lunch to cook, and then I will try to find the source of this ~42,000 XPY group. Any guesses as to where this will lead?

A bunch of small transactions to exchanges is likely people withdrawing from either zencloud or paybase.

Wrong as usual, imbecile GAW shill, ikeboy. These groups of XPY are being shuffled in and out of hundreds and hundreds of addresses that are used exactly once and then never again. The amounts siphoned off and NOT sent directly to exchanges are all directly linked to the rest of the huge amount of XPY being laundered in various accumulator addresses. The small amounts sent to exchanges are taken directly from the large group, most of them being extremely small amounts, many being less than 1 XPY. This is precisely what your hero Homero described as "mixing" to hide the origin of coins less than a week ago.

[GAW_DUMP_ANALYSIS]

More Josh/Jonah babble about NDAs shared by PRODIGI on GH:

https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/2836/33e8a58f0018b6e2.jpg

[jdebunt]

I own btcfeed.net and after publishing articles about paycoin in the past we have been mysteriously hit with a DDOS attack shortly after. We decided to stop reporting about paycoin because we didnt want to loose traffic from the ddos that followed. I salute cryptocoinsnews for standing up against this scum and we will soon be publishing an additional report about gawceo and paycoin.

Are you serious? Just this Friday, one of your most prolific writers offered Garza to write a positive review of CoinStand on BTCFeed "to rebuild the trust".

Are you serious? It's called "investigative journalism".

Anyone can say this or that, but at least I have the balls to publicly say that I want to review it for myself instead of jumping on a bandwagon.

And to be clear, I don't have a stake in BTCFeed, I just do freelance writing. Freelance writing doesn't mean my articles aren't properly researched though. Sometimes that means going out on a limb.


And tell me again, where did I use the word "POSITIVE" in my statement? nowhere.

To be even more transparent : so far, still no invite.

[vObh0n]6W]

Brilliant Blockchain detective work, as usual Paul Revere.

Thanks for the ego boost my friend, but I am only someone with a basic knowledge of this stuff that has the patience to click through all of this to trace things. Speaking of which, I decided to try to trace backwards from the associated groups of 30,000-40,000XPY in that 2,100,000XPY block. Something I can say for sure is that all of those groups in that block (accounting for ~90% of the block) are controlled by the same person, and ALL of them are being endlessly shuffled, with about every 10th transaction sending a small amount to an exchange. I chose one that showed some being siphoned off and going directly to Bittrex:

Tracing backwards this group sends small amounts to accumulator addresses (which link all of these groups together) and about every 10th transaction some goes to one of the exchanges:





I gave up counting shuffle transactions at 200, I think I am about 500 back now. Here is where I currently have traced this group backwards to, this being on the 27th: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474669.htm The group has 42,571 XPY in it at this point, so ~11,000 XPY have been siphoned off from this point forward, about ~1,000 going directly to exchanges, and the rest going to accumulator addresses, some growing real large, others being reshuffled and sent to exchanges already. I have a lunch to cook, and then I will try to find the source of this ~42,000 XPY group. Any guesses as to where this will lead?

A bunch of small transactions to exchanges is likely people withdrawing from either zencloud or paybase.

Wrong as usual, imbecile GAW shill, ikeboy. These groups of XPY are being shuffled in and out of hundreds and hundreds of addresses that are used exactly once and then never again. The amounts siphoned off and NOT sent directly to exchanges are all directly linked to the rest of the huge amount of XPY being laundered in various accumulator addresses. The small amounts sent to exchanges are taken directly from the large group, most of them being extremely small amounts, many being less than 1 XPY. This is precisely what your hero Homero described as "mixing" to hide the origin of coins less than a week ago.

Why does that imply it isn't people withdrawing? Sending to a single change address that never gets used again is standard behavior for wallets.

(And Josh isn't my "hero", however many times you want to claim he is.)

[capsqrl]

And tell me again, where did I use the word "POSITIVE" in my statement? nowhere.

I interpreted it as implied. "If it could help to rebuild the trust", you said. A negative review wouldn't help rebuild trust. And it seemed strange to me that you would offer Josh to write something for him specifically to help rebuild trust in his project. I took it as implied that you wouldn't write the review unless Josh thought it would help to rebuild trust.

I guess it's just investigative journalism though. I'm not a journalist myself, so I'm not familiar with how you guys work. Sorry about this.

[jdebunt]

And tell me again, where did I use the word "POSITIVE" in my statement? nowhere.

I interpreted it as implied. "If it could help to rebuild the trust", you said. A negative review wouldn't help rebuild trust. And it seemed strange to me that you would offer Josh to write something for him specifically to help rebuild trust in his project. I took it as implied that you wouldn't write the review unless Josh thought it would help to rebuild trust.

I guess it's just investigative journalism though. I'm not a journalist myself, so I'm not familiar with how you guys work. Sorry about this.

Well I can see how it would be implied....You have a point

The wording of "rebuilding trust" is because I - as a journalist - still keep an open mind about this service despite all the negative things I hear. So I just want to try & get into this "elite club" and see how it works. If I'd order, and get the goods, great. If not, fine with me. Either way, there would be a very detailed article - which is something the community deserves.

No need to apologize, water under the bridge & all that