Diggit.io | Over Dice? | Brand new game! | 800+ BTC Invested! | 1% Edge

[CryptoFuture]

Im really starting to like this site. One of the sites i feel i can actually win on and the crowds amazing! Come join and give it a try

Glad you're having fun! See you back soon

[joksim299]

Site is offline for me.

[xPooky]

Site is offline for me.

Its online here

[omahapoker]

site works for me. looks like profit is up. congrats

[chazley]

I find it laughable that your reasoning behind not doing a multi-sig cold wallet with dooglus is 'it would greatly lower our security'. That is one of the most mind-boggling excuses I have ever heard, and I cannot believe no one called you out on it. You don't think there are preventative measures put in place in the event Dooglus dies tomorrow and has control of the private keys? Of course there are. Dooglus is, and will forever be, the most trusted member on bitcointalk because he ran a dice site flawlessly, and the day he shut down returned 100% of the funds. Any new sites to the bitcoin gambling investment market should have a multisig REQUIREMENT before people trust a single cent to anybody. Sorry, but you don't get the benefit of the doubt, and to say it greatly lowers your security to do so is either incredibly naive or shows intent to eventually run off with funds. Maybe you are trustworthy now, but who's to say the temptation to eventually run off with funds when you reach 5,000 or 10,000 bitcoin won't be too much to ignore?

Is the decision to hold onto your cold wallet funds with no multi-sig, and slowly build your reputation over time with the community, an acceptable stance to take? Yes, absolutely. But that SHOULD result in you getting zero investors. Of course, there will always be the suckers who never learn from history and will invest anyways.

At the very least, detailed personal information of the site owners should be held in escrow by a highly trusted member of the community. That would be a start, but for me or anyone else in the community with half a brain to EVER invest in another bitcoin gambling site, you need to have a multisig cold wallet partly controlled by dooglus. If you intend to run an honest site, there is not a valid excuse not to do it. The rules have changed in this market, and failure for new operators to follow them should result in people staying away from your site like the plague.

Best of luck, and I hope for the community's sake you change your mind.

Giving the coins to a third party such as dooglus won't matter. If I was malicious, I could use a server_seed to act like a lucky player winning lots of bitcoins, then simply ask dooglus for the winnings to pay out.

I'm sorry but I've answered this question multiple times in this thread. We won't be having a third party hold our coins. We have analysed many methods of coin-storing security and came to a conclusion which we are happy with, and that involves holding our own coins.

We already have 780+ BTC invested and that is more than enough for one week into launch. No one has come close to the max bet yet, if I was pushing for more investors and had a tiny amount of bitcoins already invested I might have looked at other options to get the initial reputation.

I understand you require dooglus to hold the coins for you to trust us, and I completely understand. There is lots of scams in the Bitcoin world and I have been scammed myself. It's simply your choice not to invest and I respect anyone for being risk-averse.

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How about revealing your identity to a trustworthy third-party source? You basically skipped over my entire post and left out all the important details. Regarding the cold wallet, why not let Dooglus behind the curtains and see user stats/server seeds to protect against the site owners using that to their advantage? There are lots of ways around your problems yet you insist '(We) came to a conclusion which we are happy with, and that involves holding our own coins'

I'm sure you are happy with that decision. It is the same decision a person who intends to run off with coins would make, and that is my point. I could be COMPLETELY wrong. Maybe this site becomes amazing and the day it shuts down repays 100% of coins. I'm also not saying you are a scammer or accusing you of anything - I am only pointing out from a scammer's perspective I would do the exact same thing you are doing now. There is a precedent set in this market that someone who comes along with great software and seems to be active/trustworthy after just-dice has almost always turned out to be a scam.

You've got a great site idea. If you intend to forever be truthful and honest, and you intend to run this business for profit, an endorsement from Dooglus and a multisig cold wallet would exponentially increase the money going into your pocket.  If you want to be stubborn/naive about it, then it is not only hurting your bottom line, but it also makes you look really bad. You chose to come into this market, and because of the nefarious acts of owners before you, there should be certain rules in place for people to trust their money to these new sites that pop up.

I wish you nothing but the best, but my only interest is the security of people's money. I hope I am wrong about you.

[oldmate]

How about revealing your identity to a trustworthy third-party source? You basically skipped over my entire post and left out all the important details. Regarding the cold wallet, why not let Dooglus behind the curtains and see user stats/server seeds to protect against the site owners using that to their advantage? There are lots of ways around your problems yet you insist '(We) came to a conclusion which we are happy with, and that involves holding our own coins'

I'm sure you are happy with that decision. It is the same decision a person who intends to run off with coins would make, and that is my point. I could be COMPLETELY wrong. Maybe this site becomes amazing and the day it shuts down repays 100% of coins. I'm also not saying you are a scammer or accusing you of anything - I am only pointing out from a scammer's perspective I would do the exact same thing you are doing now. There is a precedent set in this market that someone who comes along with great software and seems to be active/trustworthy after just-dice has almost always turned out to be a scam.

You've got a great site idea. If you intend to forever be truthful and honest, and you intend to run this business for profit, an endorsement from Dooglus and a multisig cold wallet would exponentially increase the money going into your pocket.  If you want to be stubborn/naive about it, then it is not only hurting your bottom line, but it also makes you look really bad. You chose to come into this market, and because of the nefarious acts of owners before you, there should be certain rules in place for people to trust their money to these new sites that pop up.

I wish you nothing but the best, but my only interest is the security of people's money. I hope I am wrong about you.

I'm not staff but I am the current top investor. So this response is purely my opinion and is in no way the official response of Diggit.

I respect CryptoFuture's decision to not trust unknown community members with the $250k+ bankroll or his personal information. "Escrowing" the cold wallet, multisig or not, poses many issues while not actually protecting the bankroll from theft. A number of things could go wrong, including but not limited to the trusted member going AWOL (which would result in frozen coins). It would also make the deposit/withdrawal process at least 50x slower, with every win larger than the hot wallet requiring manual processing by a second person. Like Crypto said, it would still be theoretically possible for him to act like a lucky player and walk away with false winnings -- escrowing cannot not prevent this. Giving somebody else the authority to read the secret server seeds would not address this vulnerability; it would only increase it.

In regards to the stats, user statistics are already public and so is game history. I believe it is possible to iterate through every past game ID to ensure that each is correctly provably fair and in line with the edge.

If you are concerned about the trustworthiness of this site, I urge you to not deposit into Diggit. Instead, come back in 6 months when CryptoFuture has gained a reputation of his own in the community.

[Peter882]

Looks like the cloudflare protection is good enough to fight off the DDoS attacker. Thanks for your work.

[CryptoFuture]

Looks like the cloudflare protection is good enough to fight off the DDoS attacker. Thanks for your work.

No problem. I'm glad things are running smooth now.

Also, I'm working on trophies

PIC:

[Peter882]

Also, I'm working on trophies

PIC:

Will there be any bonus for hitting the milestones? Or may be you could offer a bonus for the first one hitting the bonus.

[kemicalpanu]

offline for me.

you should create a twitter account and tweets when you're doing restart of the server ecc..

[MrAAKK]

down again ?

[xPooky]

down again ?

its still up for me

[Dicer]

It's online for me either

[unamis76]

Trophies look good!

[Wanksta]

API planned? would make it more attractive to me.

[Holderbert]

How about revealing your identity to a trustworthy third-party source? You basically skipped over my entire post and left out all the important details. Regarding the cold wallet, why not let Dooglus behind the curtains and see user stats/server seeds to protect against the site owners using that to their advantage? There are lots of ways around your problems yet you insist '(We) came to a conclusion which we are happy with, and that involves holding our own coins'

I'm sure you are happy with that decision. It is the same decision a person who intends to run off with coins would make, and that is my point. I could be COMPLETELY wrong. Maybe this site becomes amazing and the day it shuts down repays 100% of coins. I'm also not saying you are a scammer or accusing you of anything - I am only pointing out from a scammer's perspective I would do the exact same thing you are doing now. There is a precedent set in this market that someone who comes along with great software and seems to be active/trustworthy after just-dice has almost always turned out to be a scam.

You've got a great site idea. If you intend to forever be truthful and honest, and you intend to run this business for profit, an endorsement from Dooglus and a multisig cold wallet would exponentially increase the money going into your pocket.  If you want to be stubborn/naive about it, then it is not only hurting your bottom line, but it also makes you look really bad. You chose to come into this market, and because of the nefarious acts of owners before you, there should be certain rules in place for people to trust their money to these new sites that pop up.

I wish you nothing but the best, but my only interest is the security of people's money. I hope I am wrong about you.

I'm not staff but I am the current top investor. So this response is purely my opinion and is in no way the official response of Diggit.

I respect CryptoFuture's decision to not trust unknown community members with the $250k+ bankroll or his personal information. "Escrowing" the cold wallet, multisig or not, poses many issues while not actually protecting the bankroll from theft. A number of things could go wrong, including but not limited to the trusted member going AWOL (which would result in frozen coins). It would also make the deposit/withdrawal process at least 50x slower, with every win larger than the hot wallet requiring manual processing by a second person. Like Crypto said, it would still be theoretically possible for him to act like a lucky player and walk away with false winnings -- escrowing cannot not prevent this. Giving somebody else the authority to read the secret server seeds would not address this vulnerability; it would only increase it.

In regards to the stats, user statistics are already public and so is game history. I believe it is possible to iterate through every past game ID to ensure that each is correctly provably fair and in line with the edge.

If you are concerned about the trustworthiness of this site, I urge you to not deposit into Diggit. Instead, come back in 6 months when CryptoFuture has gained a reputation of his own in the community.

I totally agree with you, that escrowing the cold wallted would actually cause more problems than it would solve. But i am not entirely sure whether someone can build a solid reputation in a year let alone 6 months.
It is obvious that no1 would scam just after launching the site simply because there is not much to scam anways. After half a year tho with them potentially having hundreds of btc invested in their site the situation will be different, especially when they realise it could take them years to make the money legitimately they could just run off with at this point.
I am not at all saying diggit.io is a scam. That's just my opinion on invest sites.

[CryptoFuture]

API planned? would make it more attractive to me.

It's on the to-do list, but no ETA on this feature yet.

[chazley]

Owners of diggit.io should have their identities revealed and verified to a trusted third party to protect against running with the bankroll. Zero reason they can't do this if they intend on running a trustworthy site.

My other posts are obviously being ignored (which should scare every member of this site) but there is no defense against revealing your identities privately. Do something to prove you are legit, other than "give us time to prove it".

[james.lent]

Owners of diggit.io should have their identities revealed and verified to a trusted third party to protect against running with the bankroll. Zero reason they can't do this if they intend on running a trustworthy site.

My other posts are obviously being ignored (which should scare every member of this site) but there is no defense against revealing your identities privately. Do something to prove you are legit, other than "give us time to prove it".

There's no need for that. Everyone knows investing in a casino is a gamble, only invest what you can afford to loose. Do you ask for identity of the other casino owners here before playing on their sites ? It's the same. Casino's are not wallets for you to store your money in. So those who have invested, i'm 100% sure it's their spare play around funds. cheers.

[fred.perth]

I really like that i can choose to cash out any time I like. Great site, will play again soon. keep up the good work!