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Author Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH  (Read 449409 times)
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March 18, 2015, 04:22:00 AM
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I hope you get a resolution.

Sucks to be a small miner trying to figure out a way to make a buck.

It certainly doesn't help matters when prices of miners fluctuate like the BTC price.

My own S2s keep going... and the SP30's lasted 1 month before I sold them making a tidy little profit. It is cut throat out there trust no one.
Thanks and best wishes man, not to mention good luck yourself! Smiley

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March 18, 2015, 04:23:25 AM
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Using emoticons in a reply is slightly unprofessional, but this forum isn't exactly a formal place. But when your entire reply to a valid question a paying customer has about the machines he purchased is a series of emoticons, there's room to complain. It's basically dismissing the question offhand (and in a manner which could be seen as condescending), which is rude.

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March 18, 2015, 06:38:14 AM
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There's a time and place for everything. I feel as a representative of a business you should not be using them. I own a small online store.
I own a small business too.  I infrequently use emoticons in my business emails.  I hate the written word because it's difficult to tell the intent and emotion of the writer.  I don't feel that emoticons should be a taboo for business emails.  They should be used sparingly.  I must have the right balance, having just celebrated 15 years in business.  I never had a client complain, yet.

Having said that, I think sidehack already said it perfectly:

But when your entire reply to a valid question a paying customer has about the machines he purchased is a series of emoticons, there's room to complain. It's basically dismissing the question offhand (and in a manner which could be seen as condescending), which is rude.
Bitmain reps here, do need help in the appropriate use of emoticons.

Exactly the attitude that makes BTC appear supremely suspect as a medium of commerce.  The recipient clearly has no responsibility to provide equitable value!
Whether the exchange is in Bitcoin or something else, whether transacted online or on mainstreet, it's all the same - you can get scammed or have a bad experience.  more than once I've recieved a less than proper amount of cash back at a mainstreet (KFC) business. It's a matter of knowing the rules of the transaction - the means of value exchange (BTC, USD, IQD, Euro, etc) has nothing to do with the transaction.  Have a problem with rules? Then that's a different discussion.

Guess I was wrong Dogie, you are purely a lackey of Bitmain!
You barked up the tree with Dogie on this one.  I'm grateful for his, and everyone's good help here.  I'll also speak up with him or others when they are wrong.
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March 18, 2015, 07:55:53 AM
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There's a time and place for everything. I feel as a representative of a business you should not be using them. I own a small online store.
I own a small business too.  I infrequently use emoticons in my business emails.  I hate the written word because it's difficult to tell the intent and emotion of the writer.  I don't feel that emoticons should be a taboo for business emails.  They should be used sparingly.  I must have the right balance, having just celebrated 15 years in business.  I never had a client complain, yet.
My father owned a floor coverings business and I spent many hours furthering it's accomplishments, but that didn't mean there weren't plenty of people out to scam my Dad.
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Having said that, I think sidehack already said it perfectly:
Sidehack's dubious input has nothing to do with it, it's not a question of emoticons, it's a question of policy!
But when your entire reply to a valid question a paying customer has about the machines he purchased is a series of emoticons, there's room to complain. It's basically dismissing the question offhand (and in a manner which could be seen as condescending), which is rude.

Bitmain reps here, do need help in the appropriate use of emoticons.
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Exactly the attitude that makes BTC appear supremely suspect as a medium of commerce.  The recipient clearly has no responsibility to provide equitable value!
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Whether the exchange is in Bitcoin or something else, whether transacted online or on mainstreet, it's all the same - you can get scammed or have a bad experience.  more than once I've recieved a less than proper amount of cash back at a mainstreet (KFC) business. It's a matter of knowing the rules of the transaction - the means of value exchange (BTC, USD, IQD, Euro, etc) has nothing to do with the transaction.  Have a problem with rules? Then that's a different discussion.

Guess I was wrong Dogie, you are purely a lackey of Bitmain!
You barked up the tree with Dogie on this one.  I'm grateful for his, and everyone's good help here.  I'll also speak up with him or others when they are wrong.
I supported Dogie until he clearly disclosed himself as a BS artist!  If you love him, he's all yours, I've lost interest!

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March 18, 2015, 08:30:15 AM
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Hey people, I'm not at all meaning to give any of you a hard time, but I continue to be very unhappy with my treatment by Bitmain.  If Bitmain is your religion, then clearly, were not going to get along. I suggest you just let it be!  Let Bitmain take care of what ever they choose to take care of (or not as the case may be.)

If whom you think to be a reliable business source (pay money and get appropriate return) turns out not to be, in my opinion, it's appropriate to view them in a more critical way!  That's all that I'm doing!  Bitmain clearly isn't an operation to trust with your BTC value, they are perfectly willing to revise value without notice or refunded BTC!  How much your purchase BTC is worth against their miners is clearly unstable (even day to day)!  Count your blessings!  Perhaps this is the problem presented by lack of immediate competition?  I paid $419 per S5 3/11, please adjust that to the current $369 3/12.  Thanks very much! Am I truly wrong? Let's put it this way, I'll buy again when it comes to the S7, my unmet intent for coupons!  Treat me as a customer, not an enemy (appreciate my interest in what you have to offer!)  Guess what, I'll respond accordingly!

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March 18, 2015, 10:37:32 AM
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Hey people, I'm not at all meaning to give any of you a hard time, but I continue to be very unhappy with my treatment by Bitmain.  If Bitmain is your religion, then clearly, were not going to get along. I suggest you just let it be!  Let Bitmain take care of what ever they choose to take care of (or not as the case may be.)

If whom you think to be a reliable business source (pay money and get appropriate return) turns out not to be, in my opinion, it's appropriate to view them in a more critical way!  That's all that I'm doing!  Bitmain clearly isn't an operation to trust with your BTC value, they are perfectly willing to revise value without notice or refunded BTC!  How much your purchase BTC is worth against their miners is clearly unstable (even day to day)!  Count your blessings!  Perhaps this is the problem presented by lack of immediate competition?  I paid $419 per S5 3/11, please adjust that to the current $369 3/12.  Thanks very much! Am I truly wrong? Let's put it this way, I'll buy again when it comes to the S7, my unmet intent for coupons!  Treat me as a valued customer, not an enemy!  Guess what, I'll respond accordingly!

Miners are pretty much priced with a 3 month ROI, excluding electricity and shipping. BTC price goes down, miners price goes down. BTC price rises then they raise the price of the miners. Been this way for quite a while now.
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March 18, 2015, 10:46:28 AM
Last edit: March 18, 2015, 11:02:26 AM by TrevorS
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I'm thinking a mere three month ROI is wishful thinking!  However, your point is?

Perhaps mining is hopeless?  Well, may be, but if the mining gear still holds possibility for the small scale miner, it's not unlikely the small scale miner might give it a shot? Is your intent to totally discredit the possibilities of such miners?  If so, then you've totally discredited the distributed nature of the BTC Blockchain (ie. noncentralized).  Just what is it that BTC pretends towards?  There's a big difference between some vague ideality and true reality.  What is the true advantage of BTC?

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March 18, 2015, 10:53:54 AM
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And your point is?

Perhaps mining is hopeless?  Well may be, but if the mining gear still holds possibility for the small scale miner, it's not unlikely the small scale miner might give it a shot? 

In the current marketplace mining is profitable.

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March 18, 2015, 01:28:42 PM
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Coins dropped to 274 overnight. So do we get a further price drop ?  Not yet still 416  shipped to NJ,USA

Only thing that is good new is Diff dropping about-2%

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March 18, 2015, 01:41:21 PM
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I should have seen that price drop coming and warned everyone. Whenever we take in large orders or invoices paid in coin, the exchange rate always plummets immediately after. Every single time. It's a curse. So yesterday we took in something like 15BTC on one invoice, of course it drops overnight.

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March 18, 2015, 02:45:06 PM
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So looking back at all the Bitmain releases in the past. It seems if you have free or cheap electricity the only miner that would of got ROI and made you some profit is the Antminer S1.

The S2 / S3 would of been getting barely ROI right at the moment.

The S4 / S5 not even close.


This is assuming one pays retail.

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March 18, 2015, 04:06:00 PM
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So looking back at all the Bitmain releases in the past. It seems if you have free or cheap electricity the only miner that would of got ROI and made you some profit is the Antminer S1.

The S2 / S3 would of been getting barely ROI right at the moment.

The S4 / S5 not even close.


This is assuming one pays retail.

PSA - this is also assuming that they send you working miners to begin with. Please see my thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=994874.0;topicseen

TL;DR Bitmain mailed me two broken miners in January. I sent them in for repairs 3 times, which took over a month. I lost out on ROI, asked for compensation, was send 20 mBTC, some stickers and a t-shirt.
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I lost out on ROI, asked for compensation, was send 20 mBTC, some stickers and a t-shirt.

How many BTC were you able to mine with the stickers and t-shirt ?

Smiley
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March 18, 2015, 04:25:51 PM
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@dogie @Bitmainwarranty
Looks like everyone is happy with Bitmain right now.

Can you guys have a look at the firmware on The S5 looks like extremely high reject rates. The S4 firmware seems to have fixed the S4's problem. But the S5 seems to be doing the same thing on westhash and ban.I have tried all sorts of settings and configurations same results. Thanks in advance  


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March 18, 2015, 04:36:08 PM
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I lost out on ROI, asked for compensation, was send 20 mBTC, some stickers and a t-shirt.

How many BTC were you able to mine with the stickers and t-shirt ?

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I think they expected him to resell them and make up some of his lost ROI.   Roll Eyes
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March 18, 2015, 04:37:32 PM
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I lost out on ROI, asked for compensation, was send 20 mBTC, some stickers and a t-shirt.

How many BTC were you able to mine with the stickers and t-shirt ?

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Everybody knows SHA256 is t-shirt and sticker resistant.

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March 18, 2015, 05:09:28 PM
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@dogie @Bitmainwarranty
Looks like everyone is happy with Bitmain right now.

Can you guys have a look at the firmware on The S5 looks like extremely high reject rates. The S4 firmware seems to have fixed the S4's problem. But the S5 seems to be doing the same thing on westhash and ban.I have tried all sorts of settings and configurations same results. Thanks in advance  

Can you post a screenshot of S5 side and pool side of what it looks like?

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March 18, 2015, 05:53:15 PM
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Darn, was about to put the hammer down on an S5, waited while a Bitcoin-QT picked up 12 hours, did a bit of work, went to buy and BAM, the new low btc value drove up the btc cost.
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March 18, 2015, 07:19:53 PM
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Also, Bitmain does not endorse any third party solutions, however, CryptoGlance is a nice status reporting system Yoshi even uses time to time as well as M's Miner.  (Both solution works for any CGMINER API enabled Bitcoin Miners.

Cheers Bitmain! Thanks for making the Antminer so easy to work with.

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March 18, 2015, 08:56:20 PM
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Also, Bitmain does not endorse any third party solutions, however, CryptoGlance is a nice status reporting system Yoshi even uses time to time as well as M's Miner.  (Both solution works for any CGMINER API enabled Bitcoin Miners.

Cheers Bitmain! Thanks for making the Antminer so easy to work with.

That's the beauty of APIs Smiley Makes it so easy for systems to talk to each other.

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