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January 21, 2015, 01:53:18 PM |
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I can't believe some people are still trying to defend him. Crazy.
I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
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January 21, 2015, 01:56:15 PM |
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I can't believe some people are still trying to defend him. Crazy.
I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
I'm not trying to defend him. If he used a laser and didn't tell his customers that it is wrong. I just think the pieces he carves / lasers / whatever he does do look nice and at least he does deliver a product to his customers.
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Jookly
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January 21, 2015, 01:59:12 PM |
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I can't believe some people are still trying to defend him. Crazy.
I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
I'm not trying to defend him. If he used a laser and didn't tell his customers that it is wrong. I just think the pieces he carves / lasers / whatever he does do look nice and at least he does deliver a product to his customers. the entire point of this thread is that he used a laser and lied about the technique to his customers. He was still denying it in this thread ffs. I think everyone agrees the designs look nice etched in the wood but that is totally beside the point, which is that he is misrepresenting his work.
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January 21, 2015, 02:03:36 PM |
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If this is not done by a laser what causes the burn marks and the lines? Probably the burn marks come from using his enormous lathe chisels so quickly. Haha. I must admit I was surprised how fast he was churning these out. I have little knowledge of the actual craft but these pieces would certainly take a very long time to perfect by hand. I can't believe some people are still trying to defend him. Crazy.
I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
The people defending him are likely socks. I can't believe some people are still trying to defend him. Crazy.
I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
I'm not trying to defend him. If he used a laser and didn't tell his customers that it is wrong. I just think the pieces he carves / lasers / whatever he does do look nice and at least he does deliver a product to his customers. Yeah, he delivers a product but not one as described or what they thought they were getting.
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nubbins (OP)
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January 21, 2015, 02:04:30 PM |
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I think everyone agrees the designs look nice etched in the wood but that is totally beside the point, which is that he is misrepresenting his work.
THIS, A THOUSAND TIMES THISEven Paul Revere said his lasering was cool, in between chewing him out
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January 21, 2015, 02:08:42 PM |
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I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
Actually I just found out someone did indeed spend $14k on a piece. Blazedout419 is no shill account, I've dealt with him several times. But the money he spent was before this fraud surfaced. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472.0
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Jookly
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January 21, 2015, 02:20:45 PM |
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I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
Actually I just found out someone did indeed spend $14k on a piece. Blazedout419 is no shill account, I've dealt with him several times. But the money he spent was before this fraud surfaced. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472.0I am aware of what is being represented in that thread. I am saying I am skeptical of the whole thing. If that guy has 14k to blow on a small piece of wood then I guess maybe I am jealous, but it also pisses me off because of the obvious lack of value represented in this piece. What I mean is that for 14k you could get some really amazing things and even if that particular piece was not horribly misrepresented it still looks like a piece of shit at that price. Anyway. I hope nobody actually got screwed that bad.
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January 21, 2015, 02:31:24 PM |
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I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
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January 21, 2015, 02:32:09 PM |
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From another thread, bolded by me: Deleted
Please dont take me as being rude, but i am an artist not a mind reader. I have no idea what you heard so i can neither confirm nor deny it. Deleted PLEASE DELETE YOUR POSTS FOR ME IMMEDIATELY AND SEND ME A PM. I will pay $1000 in BTC if you do it within the next 10 Minutes. A pleasure doing business with you, but i probably would have done it for free if you just asked. Sorry if i spilled the beans. Please do keep me on the list of people to be notified when you release it as if the price is right i am very interested in it. I even have 3.16 BTC saved up for it now . I'd leave you a trust rating for actually holding true to your word and paying me, but i dont think trust rep from me would help you any after the trolls got ahold of me a few months ago and destroyed my trust rating. So i guess a simple thank you for being a man of your word will have to do. Interesting What was that all about? Nothing to worry about Pistachio, has nothing to do with the coins you or anyone else purchased...... Yet Somehow i think my PM's got hacked and someone found out about a secret a month or two before it is suppose to be known. You are very much involved in the surprise, but not right now. Thats all i can really say. Sorry! You'll thank me later.
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Yeah, well, I'm gonna go build my own blockchain. With blackjack and hookers! In fact forget the blockchain.
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January 21, 2015, 02:33:54 PM |
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I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
Hmm ok this is starting to sound bad...
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nubbins (OP)
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January 21, 2015, 02:34:22 PM |
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From another thread, bolded by me: Deleted
Please dont take me as being rude, but i am an artist not a mind reader. I have no idea what you heard so i can neither confirm nor deny it. Deleted PLEASE DELETE YOUR POSTS FOR ME IMMEDIATELY AND SEND ME A PM. I will pay $1000 in BTC if you do it within the next 10 Minutes. A pleasure doing business with you, but i probably would have done it for free if you just asked. Sorry if i spilled the beans. Please do keep me on the list of people to be notified when you release it as if the price is right i am very interested in it. I even have 3.16 BTC saved up for it now . I'd leave you a trust rating for actually holding true to your word and paying me, but i dont think trust rep from me would help you any after the trolls got ahold of me a few months ago and destroyed my trust rating. So i guess a simple thank you for being a man of your word will have to do. Interesting What was that all about? Nothing to worry about Pistachio, has nothing to do with the coins you or anyone else purchased...... Yet Somehow i think my PM's got hacked and someone found out about a secret a month or two before it is suppose to be known. You are very much involved in the surprise, but not right now. Thats all i can really say. Sorry! You'll thank me later. WOW.
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January 21, 2015, 02:35:46 PM |
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I don't really think anyone spent 14k on a piece. I think that is a shill to drive business on these smaller items. If someone did spend 14k on a piece of laser etched wood.... well that money must have not meant much to them in the first place.
Actually I just found out someone did indeed spend $14k on a piece. Blazedout419 is no shill account, I've dealt with him several times. But the money he spent was before this fraud surfaced. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=864472.0I am aware of what is being represented in that thread. I am saying I am skeptical of the whole thing. If that guy has 14k to blow on a small piece of wood then I guess maybe I am jealous, but it also pisses me off because of the obvious lack of value represented in this piece. What I mean is that for 14k you could get some really amazing things and even if that particular piece was not horribly misrepresented it still looks like a piece of shit at that price. Anyway. I hope nobody actually got screwed that bad. If the person who received it is happy with it and doesn't feel ripped off after this revelation then good for him, but personally I'd be disappointed with the actual piece before this controversy even if I'd had spent a few hundred bucks on it (just going by the pictures of the shoddy inside carving). The coins still look really cool, though. Does anyone have any idea how much the wood he used costs? I wonder if he has been lying or misrepresenting that as well.Would be interesting to see his mark ups.
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January 21, 2015, 02:35:57 PM |
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Sounds like someone found out it was a fuckin' scam, and they got paid a thousand bucks to shut up.
TerraHasher, the paid shill!
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January 21, 2015, 02:36:42 PM |
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Does anyone have any idea how much the wood he used costs? I wonder if he has been lying or misrepresenting that as well.Would be interesting to see his mark ups.
If he is truthful about the cost of the wood, it would be the only thing he has been truthful about so far. It would surprise me very much.
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January 21, 2015, 02:37:00 PM |
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I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
Hmm ok this is starting to sound bad... Yeah ... this gives to WoodCollector a bad image here in the forum. Now it is very difficult to "recover" his reputation.... however I would like to see that video (if it is possible).
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January 21, 2015, 02:37:55 PM |
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IMPORTANT:
I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
Hmm ok this is starting to sound bad... Yeah ... this gives to WoodCollector a bad image here in the forum. Now it is very difficult to "recover" his reputation.... however I would like to see that video (if it is possible). Totally possible. Just ask him for a btc address and send him $1,800.
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January 21, 2015, 02:38:25 PM |
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IMPORTANT:
I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
Really - most of his customers including myself pay in advance, he offerred to send me a video of him etching my design without asking for any money - i didnt ask him to offer this to me, he just did
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January 21, 2015, 02:41:14 PM |
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IMPORTANT:
I have received PMs indicating that WoodCollector is contacting his customers privately, and attempting to extort more money out of them by claiming that he will provide them with video proof once they pay their outstanding balance.
I urge any customers who have not paid in full to not give this scammer any more of your money as he runs out the door.
Hmm ok this is starting to sound bad... Yeah ... this gives to WoodCollector a bad image here in the forum. Now it is very difficult to "recover" his reputation.... however I would like to see that video (if it is possible). Totally possible. Just ask him for a btc address and send him $1,800.Really .... no , he should prove his "honesty" why someone should pay him ? WoodCollector take a piece of wood ( bad wood) and make something....
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January 21, 2015, 02:42:32 PM |
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Really .... no , he should prove his "honesty" why someone should pay him ? WoodCollector take a piece of wood ( bad wood) and make something.... You won't hear from him publicly again on this forum. He'll try to grab some cash via PM on his way out the door and he'll be gone. Probably come back in a few months, or a year or two, with a new name and scam everyone all over again.
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January 21, 2015, 02:48:21 PM |
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Anyone know what was in those redacted posts? A bit weird he publicly posted it rather than PMd (though I'm sure he tried that as well but panicked). Really .... no , he should prove his "honesty" why someone should pay him ? WoodCollector take a piece of wood ( bad wood) and make something.... You won't hear from him publicly again on this forum. He'll try to grab some cash via PM on his way out the door and he'll be gone. Probably come back in a few months, or a year or two, with a new name and scam everyone all over again. I think he's done here now. There's no way he could re-brand himself. People would see through it straight away. The only way he could continue or restart would be to offer his products truthfully as laser-engraved but I doubt the community will let him do that easily without a bit of hassle.
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