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November 23, 2012, 05:27:34 AM
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There were procedures in place to wrap this up before the end of 2012?
That's what Alberto said, yes. But since Alberto is at best extremely unreliable I'm also looking at it from other angles. Don't get any hopes up.

Any updates now that GLBSE is finally sending out asset lists?
It's far from over, the lists Nefario is sending are pretty bad.

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November 23, 2012, 09:48:07 AM
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(Unfavorable comments regarding Alberto which were here earlier were removed at his request. I'll wait some more before bringing up the heat.)

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November 23, 2012, 12:33:17 PM
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PS. In case it wasn't clear by now, Alberto is a confirmed pathological liar whose word and empty promises are worth absolutely nothing. He is also almost certainly a thief and a serial scammer. If not a scammer than inconceivably incompetent. Either way his promise of resolution isn't something to count on; if he pays anything it will be out of fear of what will happen if he doesn't.

Glad you finally see it. Smiley

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December 05, 2012, 02:17:55 PM
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(Unfavorable comments regarding Alberto which were here earlier were removed at his request. I'll wait some more before bringing up the heat.)

Looks like another payment extension for Alberto Armandi, our Sardinian scammer from Carbonia.

What was his promise / threat?

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December 05, 2012, 03:58:13 PM
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(Unfavorable comments regarding Alberto which were here earlier were removed at his request. I'll wait some more before bringing up the heat.)
Looks like another payment extension for Alberto Armandi, our Sardinian scammer from Carbonia.
Well, that was not an extension as his original stated time of payment had not been reached yet; I was just worried because he failed to fulfill some of my requests.

However, that's a bit moot since today, for the first time, I had a chat with Alberto with video on his side. This gave me a chance to better verify he is who he says he is, and to talk more seriously about his repayment plan.

I'm feeling a little better about his intention to repay funds, and I'll feel even better once he reaches the first milestone, however modest, of repaying 200 BTC within a week. After that there should be a steady stream of payment, and I hope most of the debt will be resolved within a few months. I will continue to monitor Alberto to verify he sticks with this plan.

Of course I cannot promise anything, and I don't feel great about the time schedule for repayment, but I still believe some other suggested approaches are inferior in their ability to recover the funds.

I will discuss more aspects of this as they become relevant.

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December 05, 2012, 05:36:04 PM
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Is there any plan for any kind of procedure for claiming shares in BDT which were held on GLBSE?

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December 05, 2012, 05:48:58 PM
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Is there any plan for any kind of procedure for claiming shares in BDT which were held on GLBSE?
Once there are any funds available we will start examining this.

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December 05, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
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(Unfavorable comments regarding Alberto which were here earlier were removed at his request. I'll wait some more before bringing up the heat.)
Looks like another payment extension for Alberto Armandi, our Sardinian scammer from Carbonia.
Well, that was not an extension as his original stated time of payment had not been reached yet; I was just worried because he failed to fulfill some of my requests.

However, that's a bit moot since today, for the first time, I had a chat with Alberto with video on his side. This gave me a chance to better verify he is who he says he is, and to talk more seriously about his repayment plan.

I'm feeling a little better about his intention to repay funds, and I'll feel even better once he reaches the first milestone, however modest, of repaying 200 BTC within a week. After that there should be a steady stream of payment, and I hope most of the debt will be resolved within a few months. I will continue to monitor Alberto to verify he sticks with this plan.

Of course I cannot promise anything, and I don't feel great about the time schedule for repayment, but I still believe some other suggested approaches are inferior in their ability to recover the funds.

I will discuss more aspects of this as they become relevant.

Good job on staying involved and on top of this Meni. I appreciate it!

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December 05, 2012, 07:06:56 PM
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Yes, thanks Meni.

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December 06, 2012, 01:13:23 AM
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(Unfavorable comments regarding Alberto which were here earlier were removed at his request. I'll wait some more before bringing up the heat.)

Looks like another payment extension for Alberto Armandi, our Sardinian scammer from Carbonia.

What was his promise / threat?

You should be really stopping trashing my name, as your knowledge of the facts is approximative if not dubious.I'm working toward dept repayment as Meni said,
Stop this useless bullshit please.

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December 09, 2012, 07:44:25 PM
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Alberto has paid 50 BTC and says he will pay 150 more within a few days. These funds will be distributed among BDT bondholders other than myself. The distribution between bondholders and the debt to me will be finalized once more payment arrives.

I have received a list of bondholders from Nefario. There are some direct claims which I am examining, so the actual number of unclaimed bonds is fairly low. If you are not on the list, you can claim your bond by sending me a PM or mail to glbse at menirosenfeld . com, though I will need sufficient evidence to credit it.

Together with trace amounts of 6.12914756 BTC he paid previously, this brings the total paid recently to 56.12914756 BTC, which will be held in my address 14ubeus6MbjWqy13x2uFPS6XFUyE92ty96.

I have paid out a test payment of 1 satoshi per bond to each listed bondholder, followed by a payment of 0.0112 BTC per bond. This is transaction b0027fd15aba8b7118b6d77e8035f9839bb394c17cc4cdce12d33bbaa65ec23e.

To avoid the risk of BTC volatility throughout the time it will take him to repay the debt, the debt will be redenominated in USD. I think it is reasonable to use a rough average of the last few weeks, during which the exchange rate revolved around $12. He still owes BTC and pay out in BTC, but the amount will be adjusted according to the exchange rate (using as now an eye-balled average). So his debt starts at $12 worth of BTC per bond, plus $45,600 worth of BTC (3800 * $12) to me.

Having paid 0.0112 BTC per bond, the remaining debt is $12*(1-0.0112) = $11.8656 per bond. Alberto still has a long way to go but it does look like he is making an effort to get this resolved.

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December 10, 2012, 12:55:36 AM
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Alberto has paid 50 BTC and says he will pay 150 more within a few days. These funds will be distributed among BDT bondholders other than myself. The distribution between bondholders and the debt to me will be finalized once more payment arrives.

I have received a list of bondholders from Nefario. There are some direct claims which I am examining, so the actual number of unclaimed bonds is fairly low. If you are not on the list, you can claim your bond by sending me a PM or mail to glbse at menirosenfeld . com, though I will need sufficient evidence to credit it.

Together with trace amounts of 6.12914756 BTC he paid previously, this brings the total paid recently to 56.12914756 BTC, which will be held in my address 14ubeus6MbjWqy13x2uFPS6XFUyE92ty96.

I have paid out a test payment of 1 satoshi per bond to each listed bondholder, followed by a payment of 0.0112 BTC per bond. This is transaction b0027fd15aba8b7118b6d77e8035f9839bb394c17cc4cdce12d33bbaa65ec23e.

To avoid the risk of BTC volatility throughout the time it will take him to repay the debt, the debt will be redenominated in USD. I think it is reasonable to use a rough average of the last few weeks, during which the exchange rate revolved around $12. He still owes BTC and pay out in BTC, but the amount will be adjusted according to the exchange rate (using as now an eye-balled average). So his debt starts at $12 worth of BTC per bond, plus $45,600 worth of BTC (3800 * $12) to me.

Having paid 0.0112 BTC per bond, the remaining debt is $12*(1-0.0112) = $11.8656 per bond. Alberto still has a long way to go but it does look like he is making an effort to get this resolved.

Thanks once more Meni, payments received!

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December 10, 2012, 01:50:02 PM
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Alberto has paid 50 BTC and says he will pay 150 more within a few days. These funds will be distributed among BDT bondholders other than myself. The distribution between bondholders and the debt to me will be finalized once more payment arrives.

I have received a list of bondholders from Nefario. There are some direct claims which I am examining, so the actual number of unclaimed bonds is fairly low. If you are not on the list, you can claim your bond by sending me a PM or mail to glbse at menirosenfeld . com, though I will need sufficient evidence to credit it.

Together with trace amounts of 6.12914756 BTC he paid previously, this brings the total paid recently to 56.12914756 BTC, which will be held in my address 14ubeus6MbjWqy13x2uFPS6XFUyE92ty96.

I have paid out a test payment of 1 satoshi per bond to each listed bondholder, followed by a payment of 0.0112 BTC per bond. This is transaction b0027fd15aba8b7118b6d77e8035f9839bb394c17cc4cdce12d33bbaa65ec23e.

To avoid the risk of BTC volatility throughout the time it will take him to repay the debt, the debt will be redenominated in USD. I think it is reasonable to use a rough average of the last few weeks, during which the exchange rate revolved around $12. He still owes BTC and pay out in BTC, but the amount will be adjusted according to the exchange rate (using as now an eye-balled average). So his debt starts at $12 worth of BTC per bond, plus $45,600 worth of BTC (3800 * $12) to me.

Having paid 0.0112 BTC per bond, the remaining debt is $12*(1-0.0112) = $11.8656 per bond. Alberto still has a long way to go but it does look like he is making an effort to get this resolved.

Received. Thank you very much.

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December 10, 2012, 06:53:37 PM
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Payment received.  Thanks Meni, and thanks Alberto for working towards getting this resolved.... could be worse!

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December 10, 2012, 11:00:33 PM
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Hope is rising. Payment received.
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December 11, 2012, 11:41:17 AM
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50 BTC more received, 0.01 BTC per bond sent (counts as $0.12).

PS. To all whom it may concern, 17mE6CjNxCKn51yAQuVx3ERq1qT5uYyRLr is an address in my Bitcoin-qt wallet and the main address I use to receive payments from Alberto. I send funds from Bitcoin-qt (not necessarily the same coins) to my blockchain.info address 14ubeus6MbjWqy13x2uFPS6XFUyE92ty96 to be used with sendmany.

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December 11, 2012, 06:02:57 PM
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50 BTC more received, 0.01 BTC per bond sent (counts as $0.12).

PS. To all whom it may concern, 17mE6CjNxCKn51yAQuVx3ERq1qT5uYyRLr is an address in my Bitcoin-qt wallet and the main address I use to receive payments from Alberto. I send funds from Bitcoin-qt (not necessarily the same coins) to my blockchain.info address 14ubeus6MbjWqy13x2uFPS6XFUyE92ty96 to be used with sendmany.

Thanks for handling this, Meni!

Nevertheless I remain highly skeptical if this is the beginning of a happy end to the whole story. Too many broken promises by A.A. in the past.

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December 11, 2012, 06:13:10 PM
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50 BTC more received, 0.01 BTC per bond sent (counts as $0.12).

PS. To all whom it may concern, 17mE6CjNxCKn51yAQuVx3ERq1qT5uYyRLr is an address in my Bitcoin-qt wallet and the main address I use to receive payments from Alberto. I send funds from Bitcoin-qt (not necessarily the same coins) to my blockchain.info address 14ubeus6MbjWqy13x2uFPS6XFUyE92ty96 to be used with sendmany.

Thanks for handling this, Meni!

Nevertheless I remain highly skeptical if this is the beginning of a happy end to the whole story. Too many broken promises by A.A. in the past.
I tend to agree, but let's see where this is going.

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December 11, 2012, 08:00:39 PM
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All I want for Christmas (or Hanukkah) is my BDT coins  Embarrassed

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December 11, 2012, 08:04:59 PM
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Today I went to the police station and report him for fraud!
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