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May 19, 2013, 12:30:25 PM
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Firstly I think we all have been extremely patient when considering for how long this has been going on, and considering quite a few people have lost a significant amount of money, and since BTC rose a lot in the mean time, that is likely something we will never recoup.

Worry not, Alberto ordered some ASICs with the money he took, he should be able to return all the BTC with interest:

Apologizes for not being communicative lately, but i am positive that i'll soon be able to provide consistent and stable payments.
During the BDT experience, because i was very concerned about the high interest bond and the lack of supporting high revenues i've made the decision (unethical, possibly illegal) to repurpose some of the funds raised with the IPO.
Those funds were invested through some chinese partners of mine in asic equipment.
I will receive a couple of units hopefully the next week, the mined coins will go toward current debt repayment plan.
I've also discussed with Meni about shipping one ASIC unit to him phisically, once i receive them.
I'm also working hard on raising funds via other ways, small programming giggles and similar, but my tarnished reputation doesn't help finding customers as a freelancer.
I am not looking for compassion or excuses, rather i just want to explain the state of things at the moment.
On a more positive note, i could possibly be able to pay the current debt entirely within the next few months if  some real estate sale concludes. I'm still working out a way to document this to Meni and possibly publicly. A stable point in the debt repayment plan will be reached soon enough when i'll be able to make use of the asic devices and send a unit to meni. I've also sent additional 10 BTC to Meni today, and i know this is not much of an update until money start flowing back to both bond holders and bdt depositors, but i'm positive about what is being outlined. I'll be soon re-activating the website and implement a claim form for BDT depositors. Again apologizes for all issues caused.

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He should ship all of them, not just one, to Meni Rosenfeld.
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May 21, 2013, 04:32:29 AM
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I will take down the photos if all of the asics are shipped to meni

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May 21, 2013, 09:22:47 PM
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I will take down the photos if all of the asics are shipped to meni

how many are "all" ?

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I assume 3-4.  He said "a couple".  I am not sure if he ever received ANY though...

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May 27, 2013, 11:13:25 PM
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Any updates on this "stalemate", or on how the ASIC's are doing? Has a unit been shipped to Meni?

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May 28, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
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Any updates on this "stalemate", or on how the ASIC's are doing? Has a unit been shipped to Meni?
I haven't received anything.

I believe that Alberto didn't demonstrate sufficient good faith (to say the least) and his request is not reasonable (at least not without a satisfactory repayment plan), I'll try talking with him again.

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May 28, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
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Any updates on this "stalemate", or on how the ASIC's are doing? Has a unit been shipped to Meni?
I haven't received anything.

I believe that Alberto didn't demonstrate sufficient good faith (to say the least) and his request is not reasonable (at least not without a satisfactory repayment plan), I'll try talking with him again.

For someone saying he's not a scammer his actions sure look a hell lot like actions of a scammer. I say we don't take the photos offline, and start taking actions with these photos if he doesn't show some progress in the near future.

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May 28, 2013, 07:13:57 PM
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Lol, "action." Good luck with that.

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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June 11, 2013, 02:17:45 PM
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Any updates on this "stalemate", or on how the ASIC's are doing? Has a unit been shipped to Meni?
I haven't received anything.

I believe that Alberto didn't demonstrate sufficient good faith (to say the least) and his request is not reasonable (at least not without a satisfactory repayment plan), I'll try talking with him again.

Any news? Alberto? Would you like to share your repayment plan?

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June 18, 2013, 07:36:37 AM
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Could someone sue this guy? I dont care if I get my money back as long as this guy lands in jail.
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June 18, 2013, 09:52:34 AM
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Could someone sue this guy? I dont care if I get my money back as long as this guy lands in jail.

If Pirate isn't in jail yet, then I wouldn't get your hopes up. But yes, BDT was/is an obvious scam.

Unfortunately, governments seems more concerned with shutting down Bitcoin exchanges than prosecuting those who have actually harmed others.

To prosecute Alberto, you would need to garner the interest of the Italian equivalent of a district attorney. Maybe now that Bitcoin is front page news, they might be interested in a case involving a million+ dollar theft.
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June 18, 2013, 12:02:38 PM
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Unfortunately, governments seems more concerned with shutting down Bitcoin exchanges than prosecuting those who have actually harmed others.

Well it's cheaper and easier. This is what Americans want, right? Cheap and easy? And everyone else wants to be American anyway, right?

So no problem.

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June 25, 2013, 07:50:45 AM
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It took almost one year, but i'm near to announce something very positive. I know it's not easy, but have a little faith, this and other problematic situations will be solved within this summer.

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June 25, 2013, 09:53:39 PM
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It took almost one year, but i'm near to announce something very positive. I know it's not easy, but have a little faith, this and other problematic situations will be solved within this summer.

Alberto

Good to hear. When do you think you will make the announcement? Why not now?

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June 28, 2013, 03:16:25 AM
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I'm sure everyone, including theymos (See page 4), will be happy with this announcement.

If only it were true.

I recommend asking me for a signature from my GPG key before doing a trade. I will NEVER deny such a request.
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June 28, 2013, 11:14:44 PM
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I'm sure everyone, including theymos (See page 4), will be happy with this announcement.

If only it were true.

I sold my BDT a long time ago.

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July 03, 2013, 06:51:57 AM
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Good to hear. When do you think you will make the announcement? Why not now?

I'm sure everyone [...] will be happy with this announcement.

If only it were true.

When will you learn.... bitdaytrade is a scammer / thief whatsoever and will never pay anything... Even if he announces something its just another lie, so dont get your hopes up...
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July 03, 2013, 02:48:00 PM
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When will you learn.... bitdaytrade is a scammer / thief whatsoever and will never pay anything... Even if he announces something its just another lie, so dont get your hopes up...

Unfortunately this is true.

He's probably a drug addict like Trendon Shavers as well (pirate's drug of choice was cocaine); it wouldn't surprise me one bit given the similar behavior here. The nonsensical rants that Meni described fit right in, along with chronic dishonesty and of course criminal behavior. The one piece of good news is that large scale BTC thefts will enable these folks to abuse their drugs ad infinitum, which invariably leads to an early grave.
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July 07, 2013, 05:54:22 AM
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July 11, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
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 I understand the frustration for the long waiting, but at the same time i am deeply saddened by the slander and defamation that is going on here.
As already stated, you will need to wait until the end of  summer for a complete resolution. Anyone who's defaming me deliberately, is missing the point.
I've been scammed multiple times by people that now can be seen at high profile Bitcoin Conferences.
This saddens me even more. Please wait until i post a final update, by then everyone will get his money back.
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July 11, 2013, 07:29:45 PM
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I understand the frustration for the long waiting, but at the same time i am deeply saddened by the slander and defamation that is going on here.
As already stated, you will need to wait until the end of  summer for a complete resolution. Anyone who's defaming me deliberately, is missing the point.
I've been scammed multiple times by people that now can be seen at high profile Bitcoin Conferences.
This saddens me even more. Please wait until i post a final update, by then everyone will get his money back.
Alberto

I think a lot of people would be more patient with you if you revealed anything about your plan on how to repay people. You have not even hinted at how you could possibly do this, yet after a year you ask for more time. Is your plan a secret, and if so, why?

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