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Ok, let's pretend there is some evidence that "James Holmes" is actually a real person. Instead of magically coming up with $20K for gear, he spent $40K on SR?!? Pretty good work for a loner with no job. Maybe he was invested in pirate bonds? Yeah, he probably used magic, or maybe he saved for it, got some from his family, maybe stole it, or received it as a grant from the National Institutes of Health. But most likely he used magic, like the classic philosophers stone routine.
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July 22, 2012, 03:12:59 PM |
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You haven't yet come to the understanding that the news isn't biased - they completely make shit up!
How do I put this? You dismiss a terrifying crime by inventing an impossible conspiracy. I don't know what compels you to dismiss the consensus of reality as a maleficient web of lies, but it sure sounds like you are at risk of developing serious, debilitating, degenerative illness. Every man need not be an enemy, every seeming fact need not hide a lie.
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July 22, 2012, 03:14:53 PM |
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You haven't yet come to the understanding that the news isn't biased - they completely make shit up!
How do I put this? You dismiss a terrifying crime by inventing an impossible conspiracy. I don't know what compels you to dismiss the consensus of reality as a maleficient web of lies, but it sure sounds like you are at risk of developing serious, debilitating, degenerative illness. Every man need not be an enemy, every seeming fact need not hide a lie. Right. Instead of actually arguing the merits you jump to ad hominem and assumption. Good Job.
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July 22, 2012, 03:22:57 PM |
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Let's say you're the sane one here, What would be the point of it?
If they wanted to disarm the people they could just introduce more legislation without discussion, they do it all the time. If they wanted more people with guns they would create some form of home invasion.
All this sensation will do is draw up more aggressive opinion on both sides of the fence. What are these evil geniuses trying to do?
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July 22, 2012, 03:24:24 PM |
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Control the sheeple?
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July 22, 2012, 03:29:52 PM |
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Let's say you're the sane one here, What would be the point of it?
If they wanted to disarm the people they could just introduce more legislation without discussion, they do it all the time. If they wanted more people with guns they would create some form of home invasion.
All this sensation will do is draw up more aggressive opinion on both sides of the fence. What are these evil geniuses trying to do?
Sheeple like my mom start thinking that smart white dudes that distrust the government are dangerous. It's a general mind control, but the big reason is obviously the UN Small Arms Treaty and being able to frame the debate the way they want to.
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July 22, 2012, 03:34:13 PM |
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meanwhile, a list of fake victims is here: http://graphics.latimes.com/towergraphic-aurora-dark-knight-victims/Who writes this stuff? I mean really - do people actually believe these stories? This shit is ridiculous. Also, since when do people take 3 year olds and a 3 MONTH OLD BABY to a midnight movie?!?! That's obvious sympathy dressing
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July 22, 2012, 03:36:05 PM |
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Does your mom think you are dangerous?
If so maybe you should get some distance. Save a little money and get away for a while. Do a little travel around the state, Climb a mountain, row a canoe down a river. Meet people from other places. Find the other perspective.
It will clear your worries and make you even wiser.
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July 22, 2012, 03:41:32 PM |
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Does your mom think you are dangerous?
If so maybe you should get some distance. Save a little money and get away for a while. Do a little travel around the state, Climb a mountain, row a canoe down a river. Meet people from other places. Find the other perspective.
It will clear your worries and make you even wiser.
She does. And she's right. But I wouldn't open fire on a random theater. Maybe a masonic temple though.
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July 22, 2012, 03:42:04 PM |
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Look up some of these names in a few days and see if there are any funeral arrangements.
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July 22, 2012, 03:44:40 PM |
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Look up some of these names in a few days and see if there are any funeral arrangements. I know LOTS of people in Denver and have my feelers out. These people are non-existent. If there are funerals, they'll probably be closed casket. I hope they don't fake a dead body, but it wouldn't be beneath them.
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July 22, 2012, 03:47:52 PM |
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Well before you go any further with that, I suggest doing something new and exciting, It might be your last chance.
Skydiving maybe, Anyone else have any suggestions? Is there anything you always wanted to do, cryptoanarchist?
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July 22, 2012, 03:55:34 PM |
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Try crack......
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July 22, 2012, 03:57:10 PM |
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If anyone can find ANY online footprint to ANY of the victims prior to 2012 I'd love to have the link.
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July 22, 2012, 04:01:44 PM |
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Sure crack... or maybe some beer.
You can make your own at home, which is pretty cool. You can make your own crack too but it probably takes a bit more effort, lol.
You could find out where the local hookers hang out, see what they can do. Make sure to be careful with them though.
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Right. Instead of actually arguing the merits you jump to ad hominem and assumption. Good Job.
Well, sorry about that. Frankly, there is no merit to be found in your arguments. None of the "evidence" you brought up even suggests the conclusion you posit. In fact, the entire list can be explained by one basic assumption: Sudden, unexpected disasters - be they man made or natural - are chaotic and confusing. No one knows, exactly, what's going on. This is perfectly normal. Every involved party, save the perpetrator (police, witnesses, media and witnesses) start out with zero knowledge, other that something is happening! After the things that happened have finished happening, the material facts are only gradually nailed down and eventually confirmed by huge numbers of sources. After they know what happened they can correct any incorrect information from what they thought was happening. The full story emerges. This takes time. Media and police work from from zero knowledge, through limited knowledge, towards full knowledge as they piece together "the story". That's what's seems to have happened here, as it has, and will happen, in every chaotic unexpected disaster in history. Taking this into account, your "slam dunk" evidence seems to be no evidence at all. You refute your own hypothesis.
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Right. Instead of actually arguing the merits you jump to ad hominem and assumption. Good Job.
Well, sorry about that. Frankly, there is no merit to be found in your arguments. None of the "evidence" you brought up even suggests the conclusion you posit. In fact, the entire list can be explained by one basic assumption: Sudden, unexpected disasters - be they man made or natural - are chaotic and confusing. No one knows, exactly, what's going on. This is perfectly normal. Every involved party, save the perpetrator (police, witnesses, media and witnesses) start out with zero knowledge, other that something is happening! After the things that happened have finished happening, the material facts are only gradually nailed down and eventually confirmed by huge numbers of sources. After they know what happened they can correct any incorrect information from what they thought was happening. The full story emerges. This takes time. Media and police work from from zero knowledge, through limited knowledge, towards full knowledge as they piece together "the story". That's what's seems to have happened here, as it has, and will happen, in every chaotic unexpected disaster in history. Taking this into account, tour "slam dunk" evidence seems to be no evidence at all, it disproves your own hypothesis. I numbered my points to make it easier for you to argue them, but yet you still dodge them.
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I'm not really arguing one way or another at this point, but for those of you who seem to be doubt even the possibility of government false-flag terror, here is a short history of some of the most well-known, de-classified government false flag terror attacks carried out by the US government and others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83h0cC_-5NU
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July 22, 2012, 04:24:01 PM Last edit: July 22, 2012, 07:05:05 PM by Transisto |
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Let's say you're the sane one here, What would be the point of it?
If they wanted to disarm the people they could just introduce more legislation without discussion, they do it all the time. If they wanted more people with guns they would create some form of home invasion.
All this sensation will do is draw up more aggressive opinion on both sides of the fence. What are these evil geniuses trying to do?
While way to early to pull the false flag card, researching this with doubts is a good thing. IMO, it would most likely be to add "real" and thus strengthening the message in the movie. Everybody seeing this movie from now on will think about the "real event". People staging these events are in for the "very" long con, If you'd understand how movies help molding mindsets for future mind control you'd be at bit more suspicious of these event. Non-existing deaths, well this is far-fetch, It could have been staged with real casualties. . We're not talking "staged" on the same level here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOvGfatjPMcPs : I hate A. Jones and so I mostly skipped at above video (a month ago), I thought "crazy".
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July 22, 2012, 04:32:03 PM |
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I haven't read through all the posts in this thread, but
That interview does look pretty fake but that doesn't mean the shooting didn't happen. It means that either the guy is lying to get some "TV time" or the station paid him so they could have an "eye-witness interview"
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