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Author Topic: Nine9.ninja - [PonziGame] ★ 400+ BTC Input ★ Altcoins ► Automated ► 125% Return  (Read 56856 times)
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February 25, 2015, 09:40:48 PM
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I believe the min / max values are currently at acceptable amounts.

The min value is low enough to allow people with little coin amounts to play or to test the game.

While the max coin is high enough to not create huge walls which would likely deter any users.

In theory the coin min / max should not matter, although with the perception of numbers that humans
perceive; I stand by the original min / max as being at a good global standard.
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February 25, 2015, 09:50:04 PM
Last edit: February 25, 2015, 11:38:05 PM by cheako911
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first 1 btc will expire in the next 6 H but thats the gamble  

Not if the owner has anything to say about it.

I fail to see this gamble?  The gamble I see is a bet on how much BTC will be deposited 99hrs from 'now' or when the balance is advanced such that there is enough to pay out the bet, whichever comes first.

Past and future players gain little by an expired transaction...  save for a potential initial balance on the next payout, that's never larger than 1.3BTC.
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February 25, 2015, 09:53:12 PM
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the max deposit does not matter, because u can sent 100x 0.01 BTC and u have 1 BTC
and every 3 small deposits pay out 2 small deposits, but one big pays out 100 small.

The best thing about the max deposit is that it reduces the max balance on the account.  If payouts are prompt then the balance will never exceed 1.3BTC, so there is a cap on the amount the OP could run away with.

There is no way to enforce a max deposit for any bitcoin based game, however there could be a penalty for exceeding some global BTC/time threshold.
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February 25, 2015, 09:55:04 PM
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first 1 btc will expire in the next 6 H but thats the gamble 

Not if the owner has anything to say about it.

I fail to see this gamble?  The gamble I see is a bet on how much BTC will be deposited 99hrs from 'now' or when the balance is advanced such that there is enough to pay out the bet, whichever comes first.

Past and future players gain little by an expired transaction...  save for a potential initial balance on the next payout, that's never larger than 1.6BTC.

I thought you found google you really dont get how this works do you

to all others yeah maybe my math is wrong


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February 25, 2015, 10:01:06 PM
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I thought you found google you really dont get how this works do you

to all others yeah maybe my math is wrong

I must have missed your LMGTFY link.

See: Change addresses.
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February 25, 2015, 10:04:52 PM
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I must have missed your LMGTFY link.

See: Change addresses.


There are work around(s), like building the transactions by hand or making sure to spend the entire account balance.
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February 25, 2015, 10:26:12 PM
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One might view transaction records on N9N as having value.

Is there currently any way to sell N9N coins?
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February 25, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
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I must have missed your LMGTFY link.

See: Change addresses.


There are work around(s), like building the transactions by hand or making sure to spend the entire account balance.

ok good point I give that to you

wait pls explaine me 1 thing with this changing of adresses or building the transaction by hand where do the coins come from that are not their or will he pay that out of his own pocket or will changing adress magically produce btcs ?

why dont you just read the faq if the 1btc expire if their is still time left it doesnt matter because it states that you only get paid if the wallet has the funds and if you dont get why this is gambling then I am sorry but I am probably to stupid to think at your level

btw if you check the wallet it looks like either the investor or the owner is sending his own funds in so it will not expire probably

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February 25, 2015, 10:35:05 PM
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One might view transaction records on N9N as having value.

Is there currently any way to sell N9N coins?


There is no process implemented to sell "N9N coins" as you put it.

Although I am intrigued about the concept, expand more on it if you have time.
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February 25, 2015, 10:44:55 PM
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I must have missed your LMGTFY link.

See: Change addresses.


There are work around(s), like building the transactions by hand or making sure to spend the entire account balance.

ok good point I give that to you

wait pls explaine me 1 thing with this changing of adresses or building the transaction by hand where do the coins come from that are not their or will he pay that out of his own pocket or will changing adress magically produce btcs ?

why dont you just read the faq if the 1btc expire if their is still time left it doesnt matter because it states that you only get paid if the wallet has the funds and if you dont get why this is gambling then I am sorry but I am probably to stupid to think at your level

btw if you check the wallet it looks like either the investor or the owner is sending his own funds in so it will not expire probably

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bitcoin+change+addresses&l=1

Every payment tx sends some coins to another random address in the same wallet as N9N, so the above mentioned transaction had two inputs from some such addresses.
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February 25, 2015, 10:49:58 PM
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I must have missed your LMGTFY link.

See: Change addresses.


There are work around(s), like building the transactions by hand or making sure to spend the entire account balance.

ok good point I give that to you

wait pls explaine me 1 thing with this changing of adresses or building the transaction by hand where do the coins come from that are not their or will he pay that out of his own pocket or will changing adress magically produce btcs ?

why dont you just read the faq if the 1btc expire if their is still time left it doesnt matter because it states that you only get paid if the wallet has the funds and if you dont get why this is gambling then I am sorry but I am probably to stupid to think at your level

btw if you check the wallet it looks like either the investor or the owner is sending his own funds in so it will not expire probably

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bitcoin+change+addresses&l=1

Every payment tx sends some coins to another random address in the same wallet as N9N, so the above mentioned transaction had two inputs from some such addresses.

ok and how does that make more coins ? pls explain

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How does the Nine9 game work?

Answer: Once your payment has been confirmed it will autotmatically be added to the
list of transactions and a countdown from 99 hours will initiate, if your transaction is next in
line and the countdown has not expired, the wallet will check if it has enough funds to pay you,
if so, it will pay you out and mark that transaction as paid, you only lose if your countdown
reaches 00:00:00 as it will then expire and that transaction will be out of the game.

That makes it a Ponzi Gambling Game by the way the first probably honest one that has yet to be seen and because you like the links one for you

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+gambling&l=1

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February 25, 2015, 10:57:03 PM
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One might view transaction records on N9N as having value.

Is there currently any way to sell N9N coins?


There is no process implemented to sell "N9N coins" as you put it.

Although I am intrigued about the concept, expand more on it if you have time.

Every transaction record is something like a bitcoin transaction output, it has value but currently there is no way for this to be xfered to another bitcoin address.

A web interface where a sale address can be created, given the N9N ID(hidden input), price and string created using signmessage.  Anyone who deposits the minimum amount to the sale address becomes the new recipient of any payout for the N9N ID.  A for-sale receipt should be available for everyone to see.

As time goes on the N9N ID's value may go up or down, so adjustments to the sales price should be possible.
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February 25, 2015, 11:06:29 PM
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ok and how does that make more coins ? pls explain

Your original question is gone, wasn't it something about why the 1BTC deposit was paid out when N9N's BTC address didn't have the balance to cover it.  I think I've fully answered this more than once.

There is no making more coins, save for mining them.  My mind starts to hurt when I try and think about other meanings of the word make, please try and communicate more clearly I'm not a mind reader.
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February 26, 2015, 12:23:33 AM
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Every transaction record is something like a bitcoin transaction output, it has value but currently there is no way for this to be xfered to another bitcoin address.

A web interface where a sale address can be created, given the N9N ID(hidden input), price and string created using signmessage.  Anyone who deposits the minimum amount to the sale address becomes the new recipient of any payout for the N9N ID.  A for-sale receipt should be available for everyone to see.

As time goes on the N9N ID's value may go up or down, so adjustments to the sales price should be possible.

Thank you for taking the time to write this, I actually really like this idea.

Although I have a fairly busy schedule ahead I will work towards a similar concept of this system.
It will be some time until I can not only create this but also test this thoroughly enough to be happy to release it.

I appreciate all ideas and possible improvements, don't hesitate to add them.

Thanks again.
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February 26, 2015, 01:05:51 AM
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i will try
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February 26, 2015, 01:25:21 AM
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I thought this would be a great way to earn some extra BTC, but each payout is only allotted a short time to accumulate funds.  Making it nearly impossible to avoid having to top-up your own deposits.  There is little advantage to anyone else if another user does not top-up.

As-is N9N is little more than a savings account one must keep fresh, with interest.  Unless the game incurs a steady influx of new users there is no advantage to playing.

I'm considering building another game and having N9N be the fee address.  Any other ideas?
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February 26, 2015, 04:29:29 AM
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Another game to progress nine9 sounds good to me.
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February 26, 2015, 04:44:30 AM
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Op I would love to promote this site... please add referral commissions! Y Cheesy :Dou could even raise your payment to 6% with 1% referral commision ..

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February 26, 2015, 05:34:38 AM
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Op I would love to promote this site... please add referral commissions! Y Cheesy :Dou could even raise your payment to 6% with 1% referral commission ..

Anyone can play and as a player benefit from new players.  The logic of having agents work on commission eludes me.
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February 26, 2015, 09:24:48 AM
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all those btc got saved. seems like a good time to go in.
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