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July 26, 2012, 07:32:16 PM
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About him attending college in Australia. Is there any proof of that besides him stating such.

The phone number in the AurumXchange transaction which Zhou says is his is a landline in the state of Victoria.  It would certainly be possible to ring it and find out the relationship of the person answering to Zhou.

This proves very little in these days of VoIP. It's relatively simple to have any phone number ring anywhere on the planet that's got Internet connectivity.


As I said, +61 3 9015 7926 is mine and the number is posted on NameTerrific.

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Domain name: zhoutong.com

Registrant Contact:
Zhou Tong
Tong Zhou ()

Fax:
PO Box 465
Carlton South, VIC 3053
AU

Administrative Contact:
Zhou Tong
Tong Zhou (domain@zhoutong.com)
+61.390157926
Fax:
PO Box 465
Carlton South, VIC 3053
AU


Technical Contact:
Zhou Tong
Tong Zhou (domain@zhoutong.com)
+61.390157926
Fax:
PO Box 465
Carlton South, VIC 3053
AU

Status: Locked

Name Servers:
node-1.us.terrificdns.com
node-2.us.terrificdns.com
node-3.us.terrificdns.com

Creation date: 16 May 2004 03:26:00
Expiration date: 16 May 2015 03:26:00

Take a careful look at this page: http://web.archive.org/web/20040802063515/http://zhoutong.com/   WoW! oh, WoW!

Somebody tell me why (and/or how) a 9-year-old Asian kid has a domain set up using an Australian address. And please do it quick, for I feel that ZT's answer may be, "I bought that domain a year (or so) ago."

~Bruno~


Yeah, but I also found this too..

http://web.archive.org/web/20110209135438/http://zhoutong.com/

That webpage doesnt seem to me like a "ZT" production.

Could it be there is more than 1 person named Zhou Tong?
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July 26, 2012, 07:33:19 PM
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http://web.archive.org/web/20020808005400/http://www.china-zhoutong.com/

Zhoutong Machinery.

Is he an adult, instead of a child as he says?
Does he run a machinery business?

Edit:  I think he is shitting his pants right now cause he used 80,000 bitcoins to pay off all his families mortgages, and now he can't get the money back!

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July 26, 2012, 07:34:38 PM
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Domain ID:D1520284-ME
Domain Name:LIFEPATH.ME
Domain Create Date:13-Oct-2010 11:46:24 UTC
Domain Last Updated Date:18-Jul-2012 21:00:03 UTC
Domain Expiration Date:13-Oct-2013 11:46:24 UTC
Last Transferred Date:19-May-2012 17:43:57 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:eNom Inc R32-ME
Created by:GoDaddy.com, LLC R41-ME
Last Updated by Registrar:Afilias R54-ME
Domain Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:876c8456f832ebd1
Registrant Name:Tong Zhou
Registrant Organization:Zhou Tong
Registrant Address:PO Box 465
Registrant Address2:
Registrant Address3:
Registrant City:Carlton South
Registrant State/Province:VIC
Registrant Country/Economy:AU
Registrant Postal Code:3053
Registrant Phone:+61.390157926
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant E-mail:domain@zhoutong.com
Admin ID:876c8456f832ebd1
Admin Name:Tong Zhou
Admin Organization:Zhou Tong
Admin Address:PO Box 465
Admin Address2:
Admin Address3:
Admin City:Carlton South
Admin State/Province:VIC
Admin Country/Economy:AU
Admin Postal Code:3053
Admin Phone:+61.390157926
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin E-mail:domain@zhoutong.com
Tech ID:876c8456f832ebd1
Tech Name:Tong Zhou
Tech Organization:Zhou Tong
Tech Address:PO Box 465
Tech Address2:
Tech Address3:
Tech City:Carlton South
Tech State/Province:VIC
Tech Country/Economy:AU
Tech Postal Code:3053
Tech Phone:+61.390157926
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July 26, 2012, 07:38:26 PM
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http://web.archive.org/web/20020808005400/http://www.china-zhoutong.com/

Zhoutong Machinery.

Is he an adult, instead of a child as he says?
Does he run a machinery business?

Edit:  I think he is shitting his pants right now cause he used 80,000 bitcoins to pay off all his families mortgages, and now he can't get the money back!

Dude, how do you know Zhou Tong over there isn't like Brad Smith here?
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July 26, 2012, 07:39:08 PM
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plot thickens

only thing i don't get why sell and or ruin business that started to generate supposedly over $40k a month in profits
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July 26, 2012, 07:41:08 PM
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http://web.archive.org/web/20020808005400/http://www.china-zhoutong.com/

Zhoutong Machinery.

Is he an adult, instead of a child as he says?
Does he run a machinery business?

Edit:  I think he is shitting his pants right now cause he used 80,000 bitcoins to pay off all his families mortgages, and now he can't get the money back!

Dude, how do you know Zhou Tong over there isn't like Brad Smith here?

Because the phone number is the same.

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July 26, 2012, 07:41:23 PM
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http://web.archive.org/web/20020808005400/http://www.china-zhoutong.com/

Zhoutong Machinery.

Is he an adult, instead of a child as he says?
Does he run a machinery business?

Edit:  I think he is shitting his pants right now cause he used 80,000 bitcoins to pay off all his families mortgages, and now he can't get the money back!

Dude, how do you know Zhou Tong over there isn't like Brad Smith here?

OMG

Zhou Tong stroking his beard


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July 26, 2012, 07:45:41 PM
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only thing i don't get why sell and or ruin business that started to generate supposedly over $40k a month in profits

I'm eagerly awaiting Tihan's answer:

In the internal email dump from genjix you are quoted as having written the following:

Quote from: tseale
Speaking of that, Zhou I wanted your thoughts on the financial situation.
As you know, Bitcoinica went from cranking out 6-figure profit one month to
a flatline the next. I covered most of the deficit from the hack on the
assumption Bitcoinica profits would quickly fill in the rest. What's
happened instead is a consistent equity leak that has remained unresolved
for two months. We've gone from being short 40k to now being short 88k.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93109.msg1039996#msg1039996

Has the reason for that been accurately explained? That is, did Bitcoinica ever - provably - profit to the degree that Zhou claimed it did when you bought it?

One interesting line of thought is that the only one who's ever made a profit from operating Bitcoinica is Zhou, and if the service didn't make a profit from trading the only other explanation is that the "profit" came directly out of user deposits. To cover that up regular "hacks" were simply needed.
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July 26, 2012, 07:59:54 PM
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http://web.archive.org/web/20020808005400/http://www.china-zhoutong.com/

Zhoutong Machinery.

Is he an adult, instead of a child as he says?
Does he run a machinery business?

Edit:  I think he is shitting his pants right now cause he used 80,000 bitcoins to pay off all his families mortgages, and now he can't get the money back!

Dude, how do you know Zhou Tong over there isn't like Brad Smith here?

Because the phone number is the same.

Which phone numbers are the same?  here is what i got off of translation after you click the link to the site you quoted above..


Address: Ruian, Zhejiang Bridge East towel sub mountain road on the 5th (green plant)
Tel :0577 -6,562,153,065,620,658 Fax: 65620658
Mobile: 13506578868 13506561858 Zip: 325200
E-mail: zhoutong@zhoutong.com http://www.zhoutong.com www.china-zhoutong.com


EDIT: I am thoroughly confused.  I am going to just watch from here on out.
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July 26, 2012, 08:05:18 PM
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Which phone numbers are the same?  here is what i got off of translation after you click the link to the site you quoted above..

One page back.

The phone number listed on nameterrific.com and the number Zhou said was his, is also listed on the whois for the domain.

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July 26, 2012, 08:10:22 PM
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Which phone numbers are the same?  here is what i got off of translation after you click the link to the site you quoted above..

One page back.

The phone number listed on nameterrific.com and the number Zhou said was his, is also listed on the whois for the domain.

Yeah, I just skimmed back through that... I am not sure what to say at this point
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July 26, 2012, 08:16:56 PM
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The phone number listed on nameterrific.com and the number Zhou said was his, is also listed on the whois for the domain.

I see nothing unusual about that domain contact info. Someone registered it many years ago, it's been sold and transfered a few times and at the moment "our" Zhou owns it - as shown by the DNS info and phone number which just reflects the current state. Very common for popular domain names (and Zhou Tong is a common name - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhou_Tong_(footballer) ).




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July 26, 2012, 08:23:18 PM
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it's been sold and transfered a few times and at the moment "our" Zhou owns it

Where did you find this information?  Do you have a domaintools membership?
http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/

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July 26, 2012, 08:28:28 PM
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it's been sold and transfered a few times and at the moment "our" Zhou owns it

Where did you find this information?  Do you have a domaintools membership?
http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/

No, I used archive.org and Occam's razor. If the content differs vastly it's likely due to different owners.

(And the QQ number on the page in 2004 doesn't match "our" Zhou's, the photos don't match etc - http://web.archive.org/web/20050307110628/http://www.zhoutong.com/ )

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Where did you find this information?  Do you have a domaintools membership?
http://www.domaintools.com/research/whois-history/
Are you a wizard?

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July 26, 2012, 09:36:29 PM
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The phone number listed on nameterrific.com and the number Zhou said was his, is also listed on the whois for the domain.

I see nothing unusual about that domain contact info. Someone registered it many years ago, it's been sold and transfered a few times and at the moment "our" Zhou owns it - as shown by the DNS info and phone number which just reflects the current state. Very common for popular domain names (and Zhou Tong is a common name - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhou_Tong_(footballer) ).


What exactly are they trying to match up that uyou are saynig does not? All the last 10 posts or so with domains and such are all owned or were by OUR ZT..

This is translated form the archive of china-zhoutong.com ;

Ryan Chau systems Machinery Co., Ltd. has a long history of enterprise, specialized in manufacturing all kinds of plastic machinery, plastic composite pipe full set of equipment, the company attaches great importance to product quality and after-sales service, the majority of customers have a good reputation.
    In the production of plastic machinery for many years on the basis of the introduction of international advanced level of production technology of the twenty-first century, the development of the production of aluminum-plastic composite pipe equipment, the device is technologically advanced, low cost, simple operation, easy maintenance, practical and reliable for China's national conditions of aluminum-plastic composite pipe production line equipment.
    Our aim: first-class quality, first-class service, provide users with comprehensive services, is willing to cooperate in good faith and the majority of users!


edit; and the head pic from zhoutong.com showing it as A.K.A. Ryan;


If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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July 26, 2012, 09:39:41 PM
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The phone number listed on nameterrific.com and the number Zhou said was his, is also listed on the whois for the domain.

I see nothing unusual about that domain contact info. Someone registered it many years ago, it's been sold and transfered a few times and at the moment "our" Zhou owns it - as shown by the DNS info and phone number which just reflects the current state. Very common for popular domain names (and Zhou Tong is a common name - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhou_Tong_(footballer) ).


What exactly are they trying to match up that uyou are saynig does not? All the last 10 posts or so with domains and such are all owned or were by OUR ZT..

This is translated form the archive of china-zhoutong.com ;

Ryan Chau systems Machinery Co., Ltd. has a long history of enterprise, specialized in manufacturing all kinds of plastic machinery, plastic composite pipe full set of equipment, the company attaches great importance to product quality and after-sales service, the majority of customers have a good reputation.
    In the production of plastic machinery for many years on the basis of the introduction of international advanced level of production technology of the twenty-first century, the development of the production of aluminum-plastic composite pipe equipment, the device is technologically advanced, low cost, simple operation, easy maintenance, practical and reliable for China's national conditions of aluminum-plastic composite pipe production line equipment.
    Our aim: first-class quality, first-class service, provide users with comprehensive services, is willing to cooperate in good faith and the majority of users!


edit; and the head pic from zhoutong.com showing it as A.K.A. Ryan;



This is also the contact information listed on the website for the very same exact website that you are quoting from (I have listed this above)

Address: Ruian, Zhejiang Bridge East towel sub mountain road on the 5th (green plant)
Tel :0577 -6,562,153,065,620,658 Fax: 65620658
Mobile: 13506578868 13506561858 Zip: 325200
E-mail: zhoutong@zhoutong.com http://www.zhoutong.com www.china-zhoutong.com


Can you find any connection from this information?
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This is also the contact information listed on the website for the very same exact website that you are quoting from (I have listed this above)

Address: Ruian, Zhejiang Bridge East towel sub mountain road on the 5th (green plant)
Tel :0577 -6,562,153,065,620,658 Fax: 65620658
Mobile: 13506578868 13506561858 Zip: 325200
E-mail: zhoutong@zhoutong.com http://www.zhoutong.com www.china-zhoutong.com


Can you find any connection from this information?
connection to what exactly?

I'm fairly confident that a "very young entrepenuer and tech geek living in Melbourne and named Ryan" and our Zhoutong are one in the same. But, so what? What are you guys trying to figure out?

If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system.
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But, so what? What are you guys trying to figure out?
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But, so what? What are you guys trying to figure out?
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I don't know.  I just want my coins back.  At this point I couldn't care less if it was ZT or Burt Reynolds.  But I would tip my cap to Burt Reynolds.
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