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July 27, 2012, 02:09:16 AM
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I feel as though this is just another leaky faucet. Let's stop mopping up the mess and look to fix the faucet itself first. The issue is the online storage of bitcoin. I don't claim to know a lot about bitcoin but i've been apart of this community for 2 months and have seen my fair share of grandeur hacks. While this thread has been informative, what's done is done. Might I suggest that we as a community start putting our heads together on something more productive such as  how to prevent future attacks of this kind?
Every hack in this case would be prevented by a simple 2 Factor authentication, be it a yubikey or a Google Authenticator.

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July 27, 2012, 02:11:34 AM
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I feel as though this is just another leaky faucet. Let's stop mopping up the mess and look to fix the faucet itself first. The issue is the online storage of bitcoin. I don't claim to know a lot about bitcoin but i've been apart of this community for 2 months and have seen my fair share of grandeur hacks. While this thread has been informative, what's done is done. Might I suggest that we as a community start putting our heads together on something more productive such as  how to prevent future attacks of this kind?
Every hack in this case would be prevented by a simple 2 Factor authentication, be it a yubikey or a Google Authenticator.

I believe that fact was factored in, hence the hacks.
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July 27, 2012, 02:29:21 AM
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Umm, no. That would be just about the most opposite thing imaginable for bitcoin. The UN? Why would anybody suggest that collection of slavers, extortionists and rapists to provide oversight for anything? And what government do you trust to oversee your wealth and means of exchange? They have pretty much enslaved all of us with every single fiat scheme they have every come up with as a means to keep us under the jack-boot of authority, and now you want bitcoin to be the same?

Better to execute the first 25 scammers proven to have stolen from the bitcoin community, pour encourager les autres. That's all the legal infrastructure needed thanks all the same.

Don't get me wrong, I'm very in favor of executing people for major economic crimes and redistributing their wealth.  The heads of collapsed/bailed out major banks and insurance companies for example do not deserve to hold on to their wealth and freedom.  However, if we don't give our leaders the oversight and regulation powers they need to prove the criminal nature of these activities they will not know who to execute and how to confiscate their wealth.

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July 27, 2012, 02:44:55 AM
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#bitcoin-2012-07-14.log:02:39 < steve_bobs> HORRAY CHEAP OLIVE OIL


WHERE IS CHEAP OLIVE OIL?

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July 27, 2012, 02:47:49 AM
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I feel as though this is just another leaky faucet. Let's stop mopping up the mess and look to fix the faucet itself first. The issue is the online storage of bitcoin. I don't claim to know a lot about bitcoin but i've been apart of this community for 2 months and have seen my fair share of grandeur hacks. While this thread has been informative, what's done is done. Might I suggest that we as a community start putting our heads together on something more productive such as  how to prevent future attacks of this kind?
Every hack in this case would be prevented by a simple 2 Factor authentication, be it a yubikey or a Google Authenticator.

Derp.  We have a winner.  Unless someone f/Bitcoinica was really the one pulling the strings the whole time.
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July 27, 2012, 03:44:23 AM
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What exactly are they trying to match up that uyou are saynig does not?

That he's owned that domain since almost 10 years back.



Can someone confirm this? Is this really true? If the Zhou we are all referencing created this then he was only 7.
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July 27, 2012, 03:53:33 AM
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#bitcoin-2012-07-14.log:02:39 < steve_bobs> HORRAY CHEAP OLIVE OIL


WHERE IS CHEAP OLIVE OIL?

:-)


Here's the context:

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02:35 < Karmaon> I am selling 100% tainted coins.
02:35 < phungus> lol
02:35 < phungus> 3 cents on the dollar~
02:35 < Karmaon> Coins are straight from the Bitcoinica incident (the previous hack)
02:36 < phungus> whoa
02:36 < phungus> that is pretty tainted alright
02:36 < Karmaon> Come get yours now! Limited quantities available.
02:36 < phungus> eh
02:36 < phungus> buy stuff on SR
02:36 < phungus> they won't care
02:36 < phungus> lol
02:36 < Karmaon> I only have a few Tongue
02:36 < phungus> or sell them there
02:36 < phungus> even better
02:37 < phungus> open up a sellers account with those tainted coins
02:37 < phungus> start a new life
02:37 < RegimeToppler> I think the best way to get a "job" paying with bitcoins is to sell stuff online with them.
02:37 < phungus> turn over a new leaf!
02:37 < ku> wtf
02:37 < phungus> renounce your hackerous ways!
02:37 < ku> 315,000 posts in the Silk Road forums
02:37 < phungus> REPENT SINNER
02:37 < ku> that's only a third of Bitcoin Talk
02:38 < I2PRelay> <zmux> I agree RegimeToppler.
02:38 < RegimeToppler> I bet buying olive oil from troubled European countries and then selling them with USD in the US would be a good idea.
02:38 < I2PRelay> <zmux> Mining just seems like a get rich lazy scheme to me.
02:38 < Karmaon> SELLING EXTRA EXTRA EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL
02:38 < phungus> Coconut oil went up 30% this year
02:38 < I2PRelay> <zmux> phungus: How do you know, is there a price index for these things?
02:38 < nimdAHK> RegimeToppler: you should make a company out of that arbitrage idea, but never actually do it
02:39 < RegimeToppler> All of the European countries that produce olive oil have collapsing economies right now, and Euros are collapsing too.
02:39 < I2PRelay> <zmux> By the way, testing testing Tongue
02:39 < nimdAHK> just pay investors with other investors' money
02:39  * nimdAHK realizes that that's been done before
02:39 < steve_bobs> HORRAY CHEAP OLIVE OIL

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July 27, 2012, 05:10:06 AM
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What exactly are they trying to match up that uyou are saynig does not?

That he's owned that domain since almost 10 years back.


..., but I'm always a huge Bitcoin-believer with heavy investment in the economy.

Time to track back BTC addresses... Wink



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July 27, 2012, 07:24:37 AM
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zhoutong.com1 --> Jiahong Plastic Machinery Co., Ltd. or zhoutongsuji.com  --> same phone numbers

From zhoutong.com1's website:

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Ryan Chau systems Machinery Co., Ltd. has a long history of enterprise, specialized in manufacturing all kinds of plastic machinery, plastic composite pipe full set of equipment, the company attaches great importance to product quality and after-sales service, the majority of customers have a good reputation.
    In the production of plastic machinery for many years on the basis of the introduction of international advanced level of production technology of the twenty-first century, the development of the production of aluminum-plastic composite pipe equipment, the device is technologically advanced, low cost, simple operation, easy maintenance, practical and reliable for China's national conditions of aluminum-plastic composite pipe production line equipment.
    Our aim: first-class quality, first-class service, provide users with comprehensive services, is willing to cooperate in good faith and the majority of users!

zhoutongsuji.com links to rayp.com

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Domain Name:rayp.com
Record last updated at 2012-05-18 08:29:50
Record created on 6/1/2002
Record expired on 06/01/2013

Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.dns-diy.com ns2.dns-diy.com

Administrator:
Name-- Ruian Anyang Ranet Web Design Department
EMail-: (chenlt@rayp.com)
tel --: +86.57765828305
fax: +86.57765828307
org: Ruian Anyang Ranet Web Design Department
Room 401,Unit 3,Yongan Building,Wansong East Road,Ruian
Ruian,Zhejiang,CN 325200

Technical Contactor:
Name-- Ruian Anyang Ranet Web Design Department
EMail-: (chenlt@rayp.com)
tel --: +86.57765828305
fax: +86.57765828307
org: Ruian Anyang Ranet Web Design Department
Room 401,Unit 3,Yongan Building,Wansong East Road,Ruian
Ruian,Zhejiang,CN 325200

The following Whois shows the same Chen, possibly with two different names:

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Domain name: ruianbaojie.com

Registrant Contact:
Chen caibin
caibin Chen chenlt@rayp.com
0577-66602789 fax: 0577-66602789
Room 401,Unit 3,Yongan Building,Wansong East Road,Anyang,Ruian,Zhejiang
ruian Zhejiang 325200
cn

Administrative Contact:
liangtan Chen chenlt@rayp.com
0577-65828305 fax: 0577-65828307
Room 401,Unit 3,Yongan Building,Wansong East Road,Anyang,Ruian,Zhejiang
ruian Zhejiang 325200
cn

Technical Contact:
liangtan Chen chenlt@rayp.com
0577-65828305 fax: 0577-65828307
Room 401,Unit 3,Yongan Building,Wansong East Road,Anyang,Ruian,Zhejiang
ruian Zhejiang 325200
cn

Billing Contact:
liangtan Chen chenlt@rayp.com
0577-65828305 fax: 0577-65828307
Room 401,Unit 3,Yongan Building,Wansong East Road,Anyang,Ruian,Zhejiang
ruian Zhejiang 325200
cn

DNS:
ns5.cnmsn.net
ns6.cnmsn.net

Created: 2011-08-10
Expires: 2012-08-10

liangtan Chen  =  Chen liangtan  =  Chen Liang Tan  = chenlt

Since the last domain is about to expire, maybe its owner will consider selling it for a bag of Skittles and a hoodie.

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July 27, 2012, 11:17:45 AM
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I'm trying my best to calm down and attempt to get more information about the hacker, because he also used my email for a credit card fraud case.

How can you perform credit card fraud by stealing someone's email account?? How can you even obtain a credit card if you're < 18??
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July 27, 2012, 11:48:42 AM
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I'm trying my best to calm down and attempt to get more information about the hacker, because he also used my email for a credit card fraud case.

How can you perform credit card fraud by stealing someone's email account?? How can you even obtain a credit card if you're < 18??

You lie. Grin Grin Grin

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July 27, 2012, 12:22:38 PM
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How can you even obtain a credit card if you're < 18??

In some countries it is possible, with a guardian's consent of course.
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July 27, 2012, 12:24:28 PM
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is it possible to track down how much BTC ZT currently owns? serious question!

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July 27, 2012, 12:26:24 PM
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New evidence shows that zhoutong is the hacker.

After Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised ,zhoutong sell LR in China.

日期:2012-7-12

Ryan(11853074) 20:03:18
6.2出LR,财付通付款

Ryan(11853074) 20:13:06
要多少有多少

Ryan(11853074) 20:13:12
我帮一个朋友出的

Ryan(11853074) 20:14:06
1万美元之内都没什么问题

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And  zhoutong's LR account is :


zhoutong said The hacker registered a Liberty Reserve account U9236056 at Jul 12, 2012 9:42 PM.

So now everyone knows zhoutong is the hacker!!!

I guess we need to requote this over and over since Zhou is ignoring questions regarding this factual evidence, Im guessing he needs more time to make up some bullshit story to cover his ass.

He better start covering it now since there is a good chance someone else would be covering it soon.

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July 27, 2012, 12:35:51 PM
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New evidence shows that zhoutong is the hacker.

After Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised ,zhoutong sell LR in China.

日期:2012-7-12

Ryan(11853074) 20:03:18
6.2出LR,财付通付款

Ryan(11853074) 20:13:06
要多少有多少

Ryan(11853074) 20:13:12
我帮一个朋友出的

Ryan(11853074) 20:14:06
1万美元之内都没什么问题

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LibertyReserve

And  zhoutong's LR account is :


zhoutong said The hacker registered a Liberty Reserve account U9236056 at Jul 12, 2012 9:42 PM.

So now everyone knows zhoutong is the hacker!!!

I guess we need to requote this over and over since Zhou is ignoring questions regarding this factual evidence, Im guessing he needs more time to make up some bullshit story to cover his ass.

He better start covering it now since there is a good chance someone else would be covering it soon.

so, location of his new business is known. why not confronted him directly face2face?

Location: http://goo.gl/maps/TAWM

Office Provider: http://www.thecluster.com.au/


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nameterrific.com domain name record

Registrant:
NameTerrific
Tong Zhou
Level 10, 50 Market Street
Melbourne, VIC 3000 AU
+61.390157926


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July 27, 2012, 12:40:50 PM
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so, location of his new business is known. why not confronted him directly face2face?

Location: http://goo.gl/maps/TAWM

Office Provider: http://www.thecluster.com.au/


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nameterrific.com domain name record

Registrant:
NameTerrific
Tong Zhou
Level 10, 50 Market Street
Melbourne, VIC 3000 AU
+61.390157926



That adress is a mail forwarding and virtual office service.
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July 27, 2012, 12:46:38 PM
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New evidence shows that zhoutong is the hacker.

After Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised ,zhoutong sell LR in China.

日期:2012-7-12

Ryan(11853074) 20:03:18
6.2出LR,财付通付款

Ryan(11853074) 20:13:06
要多少有多少

Ryan(11853074) 20:13:12
我帮一个朋友出的

Ryan(11853074) 20:14:06
1万美元之内都没什么问题

Ryan(11853074) 20:17:18

LibertyReserve

And  zhoutong's LR account is :


zhoutong said The hacker registered a Liberty Reserve account U9236056 at Jul 12, 2012 9:42 PM.

So now everyone knows zhoutong is the hacker!!!

I guess we need to requote this over and over since Zhou is ignoring questions regarding this factual evidence, Im guessing he needs more time to make up some bullshit story to cover his ass.

He better start covering it now since there is a good chance someone else would be covering it soon.


Again, until he answers with some bullshit about more coverups and conspiracies.

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July 27, 2012, 12:51:14 PM
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so, location of his new business is known. why not confronted him directly face2face?

Location: http://goo.gl/maps/TAWM

Office Provider: http://www.thecluster.com.au/


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nameterrific.com domain name record

Registrant:
NameTerrific
Tong Zhou
Level 10, 50 Market Street
Melbourne, VIC 3000 AU
+61.390157926



That adress is a mail forwarding and virtual office service.


Then this one here. Someone has to catch him up.  Grin

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zhoutong.com domain name record

Registrant:
Zhou Tong
Tong Zhou
PO Box 465
Carlton South, VIC 3053 AU
+61.390157926
domain@zhoutong.com

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July 27, 2012, 12:56:23 PM
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I'm just going to drop a quick note on here, that my MTGox account was compromised within a matter of days from this hack happening. And I had over 1,800 BTC stolen from me. It may or may not be related, but the timing is a bit too close to ignore completely.

I wonder if any others were compromised as well?

I've contacted aurumxchange and zhoutong directly to see if they have anything to offer, and if they are willing to cooperate with the already open investigation with law enforcement from my end (I have an open investigation by the Cyber Crime division of my local law enforcement here). Regardless, I will be directing the investigators to this information for any potential correlation.

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is anyone committing these all of these threads to pastebin or elsewhere ?  As posts seem to be removed from time to time this will all be relevant when these cases go to court.
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